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  1. Published on: 03/07/2018 07:08 AMReported by: roving-eye


    The Government will eradicate the abhorrent practice of conversion therapy in the UK as part of a new 75-point action plan, published today (Tuesday 3 July), to tackle discrimination and improve the lives of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people in the UK.

    The LGBT Action Plan will be published alongside the results of the largest national survey of LGBT people ever undertaken. The survey, which had over 108,000 respondents, shows LGBT people are experiencing prejudice on a daily basis.

    More than two in three of those who participated in the survey said they avoided holding hands with a same-sex partner in public for fear of a negative reaction, while 23% said people at work had reacted negatively to them being LGBT and over half of those who accessed or tried to access mental health services said they had to wait too long.

    Prime Minister Theresa May said: "We can be proud that the UK is a world leader in advancing LGBT rights, but the overwhelming response to our survey has shone a light on the many areas where we can improve the lives of LGBT people.

    "This LGBT action plan will set out concrete steps to deliver real and lasting change across society, from health and education to tackling discrimination and addressing the burning injustices that LGBT people face.

    The action plan – announced today in response to the survey results – will include a £4.5m fund to address inequality and support the delivery of actions in the plan in areas including health, education, personal safety and the workplace. It says the Government will, among other actions: *bring forward proposals to eradicate conversion therapy, as 2% of respondents had undergone and 5% had been offered conversion therapy. We will consider all legislative and non-legislative options to prohibit promoting, offering or conducting conversion therapy

    *appoint a national LGBT health adviser, as one in five trans respondents said that their specific needs had been ignored or not taken into account. The adviser will focus on reducing the heath inequalities that LGBT people face, and ways to improve the care LGBT people receive when accessing the NHS and public health services

    *work with the police to improve the response to LGBT hate incidents, as two in five respondents had experienced them, with more than nine in 10 of the most serious incidents going unreported. A refreshed Hate Crime Action Plan will include measures to improve the awareness and skills of police officers and staff to respond to the needs of hate crime victims – including LGBT victims

    *support LGBT students and teachers to improve diversity and tolerance in educational settings, as 19% of respondents had experienced verbal harassment, insults or other hurtful comments in education. We will invest in programmes that tackle homophobic, biphobic and transphobic bullying in schools, and ensure that the new subjects of Relationships Education, and Relationships and Sex Education will support all pupils, whatever their developing sexual orientation or gender identity.

    Minister for Women and Equalities Penny Mordaunt said: "Everyone in this country should feel safe and happy to be who they are, and to love who they love, without judgement or fear.

    "I am incredibly proud of the UK’s global leadership on LGBT equality and the fact that this is the largest survey of its kind, but many of the results are very disturbing.

    "It’s unacceptable that people feel they cannot hold hands with their partner in public, and that they are unable to walk down the street without fear of abuse. It is also deeply worrying that LGBT people experience difficulty accessing public services such as healthcare, and that so many are being offered the abhorrent practise of conversion therapy.

    "This Government has done much to promote a diverse, tolerant society and supporting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people – but it is clear we have more to do.

    "Our Action Plan is a step towards everyone – regardless of their sexual orientation, gender identity or sex characteristics – being able to live safe, happy and healthy lives where they can be themselves without fear of discrimination. It will mark a culture change to allow LGBT people to feel respected at every level of society."

    The ground-breaking new plan will tackle some of the biggest issues facing LGBT people of different ages in the UK today, including: understanding the scale of LGBT abuse online; improving mental healthcare for LGBT people with a focus on suicide prevention; combating homophobic, biphobic and transphobic bullying in schools, and increasing awareness of the services available for LGBT victims of sexual assault and domestic abuse.

    Ruth Hunt, Chief Executive of Stonewall, said: "These findings reflect what many LGBT people already know, that there’s still a long way to go until we reach full equality.

    "The simple act of holding hands is something all same-sex couples do with a high degree of caution. Attitudes have changed but there are still pockets of society where we’re far from safe.

    "We’re really pleased that the Government is listening to the thousands upon thousands of LGBT people who responded to this survey and are investing funds in areas where LGBT people face some of the harsher inequalities, such as health care.

    "We now need people in all of Britain’s communities to also come out for LGBT equality and to stand up against the hate and abuse we face daily. Our recent research has shown that LGBT people who are also discriminated against due to their faith, race or disability experience alarming levels of abuse, from across all sectors of society, including within LGBT communities.

    "We all have a part to play in creating a society where every lesbian, gay, bi and trans person is accepted without exception."

    In addition to dealing with the issues facing LGBT people in the UK, the action plan has an international element to help defend the rights of LGBT people globally. The UK continues to be recognised as one of the best countries in Europe for LGBT rights by the International Lesbian, Gay Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA) Europe, and the action plan will further cement that reputation. The Government has promised to deliver an international conference with governments and civil society groups focusing on how to progress LGBT equality, and to provide funding to promote LGBT equality worldwide.

    Paul Martin OBE, Chief Executive at LGBT Foundation, said: "We worked closely with the Government Equalities Office to help develop the National LGBT Survey and we encouraged as many LGBT people as possible to respond.

    "We are delighted that the Government has listened. The proposed Action Plan outlines the concrete steps it will take to address some of the challenges still facing LGBT communities in this country.

    "LGBT people continue to face significant health inequalities and we welcome the Government’s commitment to tackling these through the appointment of an LGBT Health Adviser.

    "We hope that today’s plan is a clear statement of the Government’s commitment to work in partnership with the LGBT charity sector to achieve a fair and equal society where all lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans people can achieve their full potential."

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  3. sea salted says:03/07/2018 07:52 AM
    what about the rest of us??

  4. said says:03/07/2018 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sea salted View Post
    what about the rest of us??
    The normal population do not count because they are able to stand on their own two feet - the lesser able need support for their lifestyle.

  5. gsgsgs says:03/07/2018 09:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    The normal population do not count because they are able to stand on their own two feet - the lesser able need support for their lifestyle.
    The 'lesser abled' as you so typically post do not need support for their lifestyle choices, they need support to protect them from bigoted morons subjecting vulnerable people to abhorrent practices, as would any 'more able' member of society.
    Last edited by gsgsgs; 03/07/2018 at 11:55 AM.

  6. dav says:03/07/2018 12:27 PM
    Disgraceful that a supposedly Conservative government is wasting time on this leftist Social Justice Warrior bilge that will solve nothing. This is the kind of virtue signalling rubbish that used to be the preserve of Labour. It is becoming increasingly difficult to see the point of the current shower of Tories. We need a proper conservative libertarian party instead of just another branch of the LibLabCon party.

  7. gazaprop says:03/07/2018 02:59 PM
    I do wish that the 'luvvies' that seem entrenched in society would stop taking it upon themselves to manufacture problems which do nothing but serve to con people into thinking they are indispensable.
    If I were gay, disabled or had a different ethnicity I would be heartily sick and tired of being portrayed as someone who needs a ruddy cuddle every five minutes.

    They are people that's all and. from time to time, some ******** will comment adversley on their appearance or demeanor.

  8. said says:03/07/2018 03:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gsgsgs View Post
    The 'lesser abled' as you so typically post do not need support for their lifestyle choices, they need support to protect them from bigoted morons subjecting vulnerable people to abhorrent practices, as would any 'more able' member of society.
    Exactly! Vulnerable people - i.e. less able! If these people were the same as everyone else, they would not need protecting - you are stating that these people are different!

  9. said says:03/07/2018 03:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    Disgraceful that a supposedly Conservative government is wasting time on this leftist Social Justice Warrior bilge that will solve nothing. This is the kind of virtue signalling rubbish that used to be the preserve of Labour. It is becoming increasingly difficult to see the point of the current shower of Tories. We need a proper conservative libertarian party instead of just another branch of the LibLabCon party.
    Quite so! But these people are still being discriminated against in the educational system - this is unfair! Heterosexual children are given sex education but these LGBT children are not. This lesson material should be written into the educational programme.

  10. dav says:03/07/2018 04:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Quite so! But these people are still being discriminated against in the educational system - this is unfair! Heterosexual children are given sex education but these LGBT children are not. This lesson material should be written into the educational programme.

    Sex education (or, better, relationship education) should be the role of the parents (plural). Schools tend to indoctrinate with whatever the latest fad is rather than looking at what has worked throughout history.

  11. gsgsgs says:03/07/2018 04:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Exactly! Vulnerable people - i.e. less able! If these people were the same as everyone else, they would not need protecting - you are stating that these people are different!
    Vulnerable does not mean less able, a vulnerable person can be someone exposed to the possibility of being attacked or harmed, either physically or emotionally this can be attributed to many walks of life.

    So you think it is ok for a vulnerable person to be subjected to physiological abuse simply because they are deemed lesser abled (to use your description) in someone's eyes.
    Last edited by gsgsgs; 03/07/2018 at 06:54 PM.

  12. donkey22 says:03/07/2018 05:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gsgsgs View Post
    Vulnerable does not mean less able, a vulnerable person
    can be someone exposed to the possibility of being attacked or harmed, either physically or emotionally this can be attributed to many walks of life.

    So you think it is ok for a vulnerable person to be subjected to physiological abuse simply because they are deemed lesser abled (to use your description) in someobes eyes.
    Sorry gsgsgs but your wasting your time trying to convince the bigoted morons on this site by using a well thought outs and intelligent argument. I gave up long ago trying to get the likes of said to see reason. Unfortunately this town seems to have an above average amount of homophobic, racist redneck dckheads.

  13. said says:03/07/2018 08:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    Sex education (or, better, relationship education) should be the role of the parents (plural). Schools tend to indoctrinate with whatever the latest fad is rather than looking at what has worked throughout history.
    Unfortunately, since the parents are more than likely to be a heterosexual couple - they may not be in a position to impart the correct information. It would require trained teachers.

  14. said says:03/07/2018 08:52 PM
    [QUOTE=donkey22

    Do you really imagine that it is only LGBT people who are vulnerable as in being stabbed, beaten up and shot at? The people that it has happened to were protected by UK laws, but they were not singled out for additional protection, yet they could have been disabled, drunk or otherwise vulnerable.

    This town?? Do you honestly believe that it is just this town where people give far more consideration to heterosexual families? Do you really believe that a tanker full of legislation will change human behaviour? A word in your shell like - communities the World over are just the same, no matter what Governments claim, no matter what figures they give, no matter what promises are given from each country - humans will be human always.

    By the very definition of the terms that you insult me with - means that you yourself are of that type! What make you believe that you are right and I am wrong?

  15. said says:03/07/2018 09:18 PM
    [QUOTE=gsgsgs

    How are you defining "vulnerable"? Have you ever experienced psychological abuse in your life time? Did you invite that abuse in any way? A drunk person is "vulnerable" to attacks, young girls are "vulnerable" to attacks, the elderly are "vulnerable" to being attacked. Why single out one group of people - surely this is discrimination?

    Whatever sexual preference people choose - is entirely their own personal choice, There are more than 78 variations to choose from - I am most definitely not concerned. But I fail to understand that if their choice is so natural, so normal - why do they need to proclaim and promote it? Since when have you ever heard people continually stating that they are heterosexual and proud of it? Since when have you ever seen a heterosexual parade? Do heterosexuals have to have special coloured flags? They say they want everyone to consider them as normal people - yet they do everything in their power to prove otherwise? So where is the logic of that?

  16. gsgsgs says:03/07/2018 10:14 PM
    [QUOTE=said;6642433][QUOTE=gsgsgs

    How are you defining "vulnerable"? Have you ever experienced psychological abuse in your life time? Did you invite that abuse in any way? A drunk person is "vulnerable" to attacks, young girls are "vulnerable" to attacks, the elderly are "vulnerable" to being attacked. Why single out one group of people - surely this is discrimination?

    Whatever sexual preference people choose - is entirely their own personal choice, There are more than 78 variations to choose from - I am most definitely not concerned. But I fail to understand that if their choice is so natural, so normal - why do they need to proclaim and promote it? Since when have you ever heard people continually stating that they are heterosexual and proud of it? Since when have you ever seen a heterosexual parade? Do heterosexuals have to have special coloured flags? They say they want everyone to consider them as normal people - yet they do everything in their power to prove otherwise? So where is the logic of that?[/QUOTE]

    You are once again missing the point either deliberately or through your own ignorance. At least you agree with me that vulnerability is in all walks of life, there are many organisations offering support to the groups of people you mention so there is no discrimination in offering the same support to the LGBT community.

    Since when does a heterosexual have conversion 'therapy' offered or forced on them to turn them gay.

    Gay pride is all about rejoicing our sexuality and remembering the many years of having to hide it because we were persecuted because of our sexual preference, why don't you start a heterosexual pride march I will be delighted to come along and wave what ever coloured flag you choose to adopt.

    How is celebrating our way of life proving otherwise that we aren't normal, we Brits are bloody good at pomp & circumstance, any excuse for a good sing along, flag wave and knees up.

    78 variations to chose from, I look forward to the definitive list!


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