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  1. Published on: 24/05/2016 05:57 AMReported by: roving-eye
    The cost of a 4-person holiday to Europe this summer could rise by £230 following a vote to leave the EU, Treasury analysis shows weaker pound to hit family holidays.



    Treasury analysis shows £230 rise for a 4 person holiday to the EU

    costs could rise this summer after a leave vote

    cuts to mobile phone roaming charges not guaranteed

    The cost of a 4-person holiday to Europe this summer could rise by £230 following a vote to leave the European Union.

    The Treasury’s analysis of the immediate impact of a vote to leave, published on Monday, estimates the value of the pound will fall by 12%, making travel in Europe and the rest of the world more expensive.

    With the pound expected to fall dramatically immediately after a vote to leave, travel costs such as accommodation, food and drinks would be higher for families travelling overseas.

    New Treasury analysis shows that on average, after 2 years, a 4-person holiday travelling together would spend £230 more during an 8-night holiday in Europe.

    The fall in the value of the pound would therefore affect all holiday expenditure abroad that is paid for after a vote to leave the EU on 23 June.

    A vote to leave would also affect the cost of holidays to popular destinations outside the EU, such as Florida, with sterling expected to depreciate against other currencies including the US dollar.

    Prime Minister David Cameron said:

    All the evidence points to the value of the pound falling after a vote to leave the EU. A weaker pound means people’s hard-earned savings won’t go as far on holidays overseas.

    The choice facing the British people on 23 June is increasingly clear: the certainty and economic security of remaining in the EU, or a leap in the dark that would raise prices – including the cost of a family holiday.

    On top of the immediate effects of a weaker pound on the real-world cost of goods and services for those travelling abroad, there could also be a impacts on other arrangements that have benefitted British holidaymakers if the UK were to leave the EU.

    Cost of travel
    Cheap flights within the European Union could also be jeopardised if the UK leaves the EU’s single market.

    Low cost air fares fell by more than 40% between 1992 and 2000, following the introduction of a single market for aviation which allows any EU airline to operate routes from and between any EU airport.

    Outside the single market, the UK would lose this benefit which has increased competition and driven down costs for passengers.

    Carolyn McCall, Chief Executive of easyJet said:

    For easyJet and our passengers membership of the EU has been a good thing. The common aviation area created by the EU allows any European airline to fly anywhere in Europe. This has kept all airlines’ costs low and has enabled low fares airlines like easyJet to expand.

    If the UK were to vote to leave the EU any new, more restrictive aviation arrangements would add cost and therefore fares would rise. And a weaker pound would mean the cost of a holiday abroad – including food, accommodation and drinks – would be more expensive.

    That is why we think our customers are better off in Europe.

    Roaming charges
    The cost of mobile phone roaming charges has already been cut to nearly zero in Europe, with the UK leadership securing a better deal for consumers.

    The maximum surcharge for outgoing calls is now no more than €0.05 (about 4p) per minute, incoming calls are no more than €0.014 (less than a penny) per minute, texts are priced €0.02 per message (about a penny) and data is priced €0.05 per megabyte (about 4p).

    From June 2017 all roaming charges across the EU will be completely abolished, after the UK led the charge in securing agreement across Europe as part of the single market in telecoms.

    These arrangements, which benefit millions of British travellers every year, would not be guaranteed to continue were the UK to leave the European Union.

    Gavin Patterson, chief executive of BT Group, which owns EE, said:

    Because of the UK’s membership of the EU, BT and EE have been able to offer our customers lower charges, including inclusive roaming plans and data charges that are over 90% lower for Britons travelling on the continent.


    Voters need to think very carefully before turning their backs on an institution that helps to ensure benefits like that are delivered.


    Membership of the EU also helps BT’s international division sell services to business customers and large organisations across Europe, something which helps us to create jobs.

    Vittorio Colao, chief executive of the Vodafone Group, said:

    The end of roaming charges – which was driven by the EU – and Europe-wide offers from operators like Vodafone – the European leader in 4G – mean that everyone can use their mobiles anywhere in Europe without having to worry about excessive costs.

    Britain will benefit from being part of a borderless European single digital market as it will create new opportunities for economic growth. Consequently, we believe it is better to be a shaper and leader from within, rather than being just a commercial neighbour.

    Other benefits enjoyed by holidaymakers travelling to Europe would also be at risk, including free healthcare within the EU and the ‘booze cruise’ enjoyed by thousands of day trippers every year, with customs controls likely to limit duty free.

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  3. Greywolf says:24/05/2016 07:59 AM
    He hasn't mentioned that the sky will fall in as well. Just how much crap can both sides throw at us?

  4. Ric says:24/05/2016 08:11 AM
    More scaremongering by an already corrupt government, it's a pity that some people will believe their lies about this and job losses, recession, trade wars and the possibly or war as stated on ITN news yesterday. Odd how Cameron was all for it less than two years ago and also when he wanted to be voted back in.


    If they government want us to be part of a European Union then we should all pay the same amount of VAT, the same amount for fuel, have the same benefits (including being given houses and money if we want to move to other parts of Europe till we get jobs there.


    I'm voting OUT I want the word Great in Great Britain to mean something again.

  5. gazaprop says:24/05/2016 11:33 AM
    "I'm voting OUT I want the word Great in Great Britain to mean something again."

    Really - in which case we'd better visit all those countries we've subjugated whilst raping the natural resources from them and give back their spears.
    We could then take the tanks, jets and modern weaponry from them, ask the US and Russia to sit this one out, and go on another Empire building mission.

  6. Albion102 says:24/05/2016 12:07 PM
    I'm for remain, but I think that "cost and ease of holidays" is the most trivial reason imaginable to justify it. I disagree with a lot of the remain campaigning.

  7. greenmachine says:24/05/2016 12:22 PM
    The remain campaign really are clutching at straws now, they know they are beat, Cameron and Osborne know the first jobs lost after 23rd of June will be theirs. The issues are far bigger than the cost of going to Spain or Greece, both of which are heading for third world status.

  8. Stupot says:24/05/2016 12:34 PM
    It's not all that long ago since Cameron was saying he'd recommend leaving the EU if he didn't get the concessions he wanted during his negotiations.

    He pretty much failed, but then has became almost desperate to convince the electorate that the UK would be better staying in the EU.

    A case of having your cake and eating it..?

  9. cotton man says:24/05/2016 01:13 PM
    More scaremongering from a desperate man, this continuous nonsense is an insult to people's intelligence. It seems they are desperate to continue constructing the Federated States of Europe with one government and one currency and fake democracy.

  10. abbeyroad says:24/05/2016 01:59 PM
    The unfortunate thing is that all this scaremongering, predominantly from the Remain people, will probably do the trick.

    My own view is that if you want to be a citizen of a United States of Europe that nobody has voted for and be effectively governed by unelected bureaucrats in a foreign country who are accountable to nobody and who are paid vast amounts of our money then go ahead and vote Remain. I just hope that those people intending to do just that have the guts to put their hands up in 10, 20 or 30 years time when this country is nothing more than a subservient satellite state of Germany and admit that it is they who are responsible.

  11. prasnee says:24/05/2016 03:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    The unfortunate thing is that all this scaremongering, predominantly from the Remain people, will probably do the trick.
    I think there is scaremongering and distortions on both sides, it's just more extreme on the Exit side.

    Only in the last couple of days one of the most respected supporters of Brexit has accused her own side of a "cynical distortion" of the truth over the NHS. See https://www.politicshome.com/news/eu...stortion-truth

  12. abbeyroad says:24/05/2016 03:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by prasnee View Post
    I think there is scaremongering and distortions on both sides, it's just more extreme on the Exit side.

    Only in the last couple of days one of the most respected supporters of Brexit has accused her own side of a "cynical distortion" of the truth over the NHS. See https://www.politicshome.com/news/eu...stortion-truth
    I think one's perception of which side is being more extreme depends pretty much on which way you intend to vote. Claiming that the Leave side have been more extreme sounds extraordinary to me, but then I would say that wouldn't I !

  13. Fawlty says:24/05/2016 09:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by greenmachine View Post
    The remain campaign really are clutching at straws now, they know they are beat.
    I'd like to think you're right but currently betting odds are REMAIN 1/5 and LEAVE 4/1

    Bookies are rarely wrong

  14. paulollie says:24/05/2016 09:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    The unfortunate thing is that all this scaremongering, predominantly from the Remain people, will probably do the trick.

    My own view is that if you want to be a citizen of a United States of Europe that nobody has voted for and be effectively governed by unelected bureaucrats in a foreign country who are accountable to nobody and who are paid vast amounts of our money then go ahead and vote Remain. I just hope that those people intending to do just that have the guts to put their hands up in 10, 20 or 30 years time when this country is nothing more than a subservient satellite state of Germany and admit that it is they who are responsible.
    It's all getting tetchy now it seems, but at the last count we did have have a vote on in and out in 1975. We elect MEP's to the EU don't we? so not all undemocratic, and in 30 years time, give me a break who the hell living now will ever bother about the 23/5/2016 vote.

    Banging on about Germany all the time taking over every facet of human life. Lets look at it from another view point eh, for a couple of hundred years this country held ultimate "Say" over the 1/4 of the earths population and 1/5 of its land mass remember the British Empire? Simply, the boots on the other foot now and we don't like it in any aspect. Saying that we still bat above our weight on the World stage and that is better influenced from the inside than out!!

    As for so called sovereignty we don't even like any of our own lot for Gods sake, if you look at recent General Election turnouts.

    All in all scaremongering on both sides, muppet people saying "we are told this and told that, so what is right?" make your own bleedin minds up, research the facts for yourselves plenty out there!

  15. abbeyroad says:25/05/2016 07:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paulollie View Post
    It's all getting tetchy now it seems, but at the last count we did have have a vote on in and out in 1975. We elect MEP's to the EU don't we? so not all undemocratic, and in 30 years time, give me a break who the hell living now will ever bother about the 23/5/2016 vote.

    Banging on about Germany all the time taking over every facet of human life. Lets look at it from another view point eh, for a couple of hundred years this country held ultimate "Say" over the 1/4 of the earths population and 1/5 of its land mass remember the British Empire? Simply, the boots on the other foot now and we don't like it in any aspect. Saying that we still bat above our weight on the World stage and that is better influenced from the inside than out!!

    As for so called sovereignty we don't even like any of our own lot for Gods sake, if you look at recent General Election turnouts.

    All in all scaremongering on both sides, muppet people saying "we are told this and told that, so what is right?" make your own bleedin minds up, research the facts for yourselves plenty out there!
    What we had in 1975 was a vote on whether or not to join an Economic Community. The clue is in the title. If you seriously believe that the European Union as it stands today is nothing more than a group of nations working out trading arrangements then it really is no surprise that you want to remain. So would I.

    As for the sovereignty issue, we have the power to vote our own MP's out of office whereas the real decision makers in Europe are not elected by anybody.

    I think you need to calm down. Your side will win this referendum, probably quite comfortably. Millions of us simply don't like this inexorable march towards full political union without anyone in Europe being asked specifically if that is what they want. If the eurocrats are so convinced that this arrangement is in the best interests of the people then let's have a Europe wide referendum asking the question "Do you want to be a citizen of the United States of Europe?" They won't do that though will they! I wonder why?

  16. prasnee says:25/05/2016 08:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    What we had in 1975 was a vote on whether or not to join an Economic Community.
    That's not quite correct. By 1975 we had already joined the EEC/Common Market, so the referendum was whether to stay in.

    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    If you seriously believe that the European Union as it stands today is nothing more than a group of nations working out trading arrangements then it really is no surprise that you want to remain. So would I.
    Of course the EEC/Common Market has evolved since the early 1970s. For one thing there are more than three times as many member states as there were then.

    Perhaps it would help if you could spell out what aspect(s) of the way that the EU operates today that it is that you disagree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    As for the sovereignty issue, we have the power to vote our own MP's out of office whereas the real decision makers in Europe are not elected by anybody.
    But that's not true.

    Decisions in the EU are made by (1) the Commission, (2) the Council of Ministers and (3) the European Parliament.

    (1) is comprised of people appointed by the democratically elected governments of the EU member states.

    (2) is comprised of the democratically elected governments of the EU member states.

    (3) is democratically elected by the voters in the EU member states.


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