The words Fake Antiques are mentioned a lot in the antiques trade but it mostly refers to reproductions or a copy.

Excluding paintings, oil or watercolour and of cause watches it is unusual to see a fake in the antique world, thats an item deliberately made to cheat some one.








Well today I came lucky 2 fakes in the one morning.

Anything with 1912 stamped on, carved, engraved etc, my advice is beware.

1912 is the year that the famous Titanic sank. and items of this date are very valuable especially if it it relates to the Titanic itself. Also if some one is thinking of making a fake half the work is already done if 1912 is already on the item.

Today a beautiful coffee pot was brought into the shop by a man on behalf of mother, inscribed was the year 1912, up went the warning bells, the inscription was congratulations Captain A.H. Rostron of the RMS Carpathia.

Captain Rostron came to fame as being the captain of the ship that helped the rescue of the passengers of the Titanic and the ship

RMS Carpathia was a Cunard Line transatlantic passenger steamship built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson. Carpathia made her maiden voyage in 1903 and became famous for rescuing the survivors of RMS Titanic after the ship hit an iceberg and sank 15 April 1912. Carpathia was sunk in the Atlantic on 17 July 1918 during the First World War after being torpedoed by an Imperial German Navy U-boat.

http://www.greatships.net/carpathia.html
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/carpathia.shtml

The coffee pot was of the Victorian period made about 20 years earlier than the date. The inscription was poorly done, inscribed with a needle by an amateur. Obviously the engraving was done to mislead.

The man selling the item had no idea where the coffee pot had come from other than it had been in the family house for over 20 years.

So remember, if an item or the deal looks too good to be true .... it is likely that it is not true and not good and is a no deal.

The second FAKE was a letter from Laural and Hardy addressed to the owner of the Winter Gardens in Morecambe inviting him for a drink prior to their show starting.

Letters like this are very common, words like meet you at the Savoy, see you at the Winter Gardens are commonly used.
The Letter Head always has a cartoon drawing of the famous two comedians in colour. and is signed by both. and dated 1947. I have seen many of them even with a Coventry theatre as well as London theatre.

They are discolourd and look quite good. Reproduced on a photocopying machine that did not exist until the 1960s with the invention of Zerox ,but thay are all dated in the 1940's
You have to be very carefull buying autographs of any kind. E b a y, going by the comments on google is not the place to buy items like this.

Many have sold on ebay £400 to £600.

If in doubt about any item you may have or anything you think may be a fake contact me or call in to my shop at 8 Portland street, Southport

or why not make a day of it and visit the Laural and Hardy Museum just 50 miles up the road at Ulverston, Upper Brook Street +44 [0] 01229 582292

http://www.lakedistrictletsgo.co.uk/...rel_hardy.html

what do you think of this john?

it is stamped and has all the hallmarks of a first period peice of belleek earthenware ..

i must admit i am not sure though (the stamp looks very crisp and unworn)

but then again the peice sits on a rim so the mark would never have touched a syrface anyway.

Back stamp may look good

but look at the item.

sorry to say worthless

Originally Posted by theantiquesman

The words Fake Antiques are mentioned a lot in the antiques trade but it mostly refers to reproductions or a copy.

Excluding paintings, oil or watercolour, it is unusual to see a fake, an item deliberately made to cheat some one.

Well today I came lucky 2 fakes in the one morning.

Anything with 1912 stamped on, carved, engraved etc, my advice is beware.

1912 is the year that the famous Titanic sank. and items of this date are very valuable especially if it it relates to the Titanic itself. Also if some one is thinking of making a fake half the work is already done if 1912 is already on the item.

Today a beautiful coffee pot was brought into the shop by a man on behalf of mother, inscribed was the year 1912, up went the warning bells, the inscription was congratulations Captain A.H. Rostron of the RMS Carpathia.

Captain Rostron came to fame as being the captain of the ship that helped the rescue of the passengers of the Titanic and the ship

RMS Carpathia was a Cunard Line transatlantic passenger steamship built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson. Carpathia made her maiden voyage in 1903 and became famous for rescuing the survivors of RMS Titanic after the ship hit an iceberg and sank 15 April 1912. Carpathia was sunk in the Atlantic on 17 July 1918 during the First World War after being torpedoed by an Imperial German Navy U-boat.

http://www.greatships.net/carpathia.html
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/carpathia.shtml

The coffee pot was of the Victorian period made about 20 years earlier than the date. The inscription was poorly done, inscribed with a needle by an amateur. Obviously the engraving was done to mislead.

The man selling the item had no idea where the coffee pot had come from other than it had been in the family house for over 20 years.

So remember, if an item or the deal looks too good to be true .... it is likely that it is not true and not good and is a no deal.

The second FAKE was a letter from Laural and Hardy addressed to the owner of the Winter Gardens in Morecambe inviting him for a drink prior to their show starting.

Letters like this are very common, words like meet you at the Savoy, see you at the Winter Gardens are commonly used.
The Letter Head always has a cartoon drawing of the famous two comedians in colour. and is signed by both. and dated 1947. I have seen many of them even with a Coventry theatre as well as London theatre.

They are discolourd and look quite good. Reproduced on a photocopying machine that did not exist until the 1960s with the invention of Zerox ,but thay are all dated in the 1940's
You have to be very carefull buying autographs of any kind. E b a y, going by the comments on google is not the place to buy items like this.

Many have sold on ebay £400 to £600.

If in doubt about any item you may have or anything you think may be a fake contact me or call in to my shop at 8 Portland street, Southport

or why not make a day of it and visit the Laural and Hardy Museum just 50 miles up the road at Ulverston, Upper Brook Street +44 [0] 01229 582292

http://www.lakedistrictletsgo.co.uk/...rel_hardy.html

This story took a twist today.

I bought the fake.

I think it is an interesting addition to my collection of antique fakes that are not what they should be. It looks well with the staffordshire figure made in china and my Samson of Paris made in France Chinese Export vase.

there is a titanic museum that recently opened in belfast that i visited and found is lacking any real artifact or origonal peices that are connected to the museum. (probably for the reason that titanic related items are incredibly rare and expensive) but all the same if you had anything with a connection to the ship or any white star line ship they might be the place to call.

worth a try but then again museums are notoriously tight

Tom Keatings works are good prices

ex more good to see you are KEATING abreast of the art world.

In 1976 Tom Keating became notorious for being exposed as having produced a series of drawings supposedly executed by Samuel Palmer. He was arrested on a charge of conspiracy to defraud and was committed to trial at the Old Bailey in London, England, where it was revealed that he had produced thousands of pictures after more than one hundred artists. In his defence Keating claimed that he forged the pictures as an expression of his contempt for the art establishment that valued art and artists in a shallow fashion. The case was finally dropped due to his poor health. Keating later appeared on television in the UK providing expert opinion on the techniques of past masters. Who better to provide such a commentary than the 'past master' himself? He also co-authored a book entitled The Fakers Progress.