'National' Tips?

[MICK/GILLY]

The bet was each way, so would be £5 for a win, £5 for a place (£10 in total) but even as each way bet the payout doesn't calculate, see my other post.

He says it’s a mistake to accept the odds on offer at the time but they were from 12/1 to 16/1 depending on which bookie or SHOP you used and can be seen right now if you look on the internet .
And goes on to NOT answer any questions asked .
None of this adds up because it is nonesense , the odds were at the very best 16/1 and at the very worst 12/1 and you can go look them up right now online.
That means as I said a five pound bet each way is a £10 bet on a win ( you can also look that up ) … it gets more complicated on a place 1st2nd3rd but it won so at the minimum of 12/1 he would get £120 + his stake back so yea £130. And the maximum 16/1 would be £160 +stake = £170
And like I said to get even close to the £43 he claims ( which is a very odd bullcrap number ) his odds would have to be something like 3.5/1 =£45 and that’s the closest I can get it to £43 without going into fractions.

Basically it’s tripe from start to finish.
It’s a copy that’s being presented that he and his mate made.
AFTER HE WAS REPEATEDLY ASKED TO POST THE ORIGINAL HERE MANY TIMES (original would have date time odds value bookies and so on)
The copy will have to be changed as soon as the shop opens as he forgot to add the odds and probably place of bet.
AND I TOLD YOU HE WOULD ONLY PRODUCE A COOY ..but we all saw that coming right?

He is now trying to authenticate the whole thing by giving us the exact currency ALLEGEDLY received by the bookies THAT DOSENT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. I don’t know wheather to believe he paid £5 to put the fake copy in the window or £5 to buy a jumper .

He still hasn’t told us the odds AS WAS ASKED TO AGAIN AND AGAIN.

And he HASN'T DISCLOSED THE BOOKMAKERS THAT HE USED, neither the company or the shop address. AGAIN AS CONTINUALLY ASKED

BULL FROM START TO FINISH AND CONTINUING A LIE AFTER BEING TOLD WE KNOW HE IS LYING AND EVEN SHOWING HIM WE KNOW.
Most people tend to grow out of this mindset ( and bicycles ) around the age of 10 the ones that don’t MAY grow up to be terrible narcissistic liars that will go to any lengths FABRICATING EVIDENCE to try to prove right what everyone can see is wrong and CHANGING THE SUBJECT when they get CAUGHT out and LYING FURTHER often using a technique called babbling or better known as word salad and let’s face it this thread and ones lately and 20 yrs of crap bicycle car hating threads and fake climate change threads sort of proves that beyond any doubt.

Look everyone ……you all read past his post not noticing the bollox he wrote that was at best an easy load of rot to spot but as soon as I asked for the ticket all I got offered was a doctored photo copy that SOMEHOW couldn’t be posted for all to see .EVEN A MATE WITH A CAMERA COULDN'T WORK OUT HOW TO POST IT SO A COPY HAD TO GO IN A SHOP WINDOW HA HA PLEASE ..
Then asked for the odds that now dont make sense just like the story .
Then I asked for the address of the bookies and WORD SALAD WAS USED TO WASH OVER THAT offering “ohh I made a mistake “ “ I should have “ when there was no should have as bookies don’t barter at the point of sale with odds AND NOT ANSWERING ANY SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED ONLY PROVES THAT …
A liar caught lying and shown everyone knows he is lying then continues to lie in our faces not only can’t be trusted or taken seriously ( not that he is and that’s a clue right there ) but is a waste of effort to talk to because they will never stop lying and end up thinking they have fooled everyone even after everyone is calling bullcrap .

So does this sound familiar of this character, this special kind of nonesense bullcrap character.

Once the mask slips it’s hard for him to put it back on and it slips every post he makes as this post there’s nothing that he has said, tried or have us believe that makes sense and adds up. It’s now hard NOT to see . And not forgetting the original storyline that was too good to be true or super unlikely to start with .

[Nick2]

He says it’s a mistake to accept the odds on offer at the time but they were from 12/1 to 16/1 depending on which bookie or SHOP you used and can be seen right now if you look on the internet .
And goes on to NOT answer any questions asked .
None of this adds up because it is nonesense , the odds were at the very best 16/1 and at the very worst 12/1 and you can go look them up right now online.
That means as I said a five pound bet each way is a £10 bet on a win ( you can also look that up ) … it gets more complicated on a place 1st2nd3rd but it won so at the minimum of 12/1 he would get £120 + his stake back so yea £130. And the maximum 16/1 would be £160 +stake = £170
And like I said to get even close to the £43 he claims ( which is a very odd bullcrap number ) his odds would have to be something like 3.5/1 =£45 and that’s the closest I can get it to £43 without going into fractions.

Basically it’s tripe from start to finish.
It’s a copy that’s being presented that he and his mate made.
AFTER HE WAS REPEATEDLY ASKED TO POST THE ORIGINAL HERE MANY TIMES (original would have date time odds value bookies and so on)
The copy will have to be changed as soon as the shop opens as he forgot to add the odds and probably place of bet.
AND I TOLD YOU HE WOULD ONLY PRODUCE A COOY ..but we all saw that coming right?

He is now trying to authenticate the whole thing by giving us the exact currency ALLEGEDLY received by the bookies THAT DOSENT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. I don’t know wheather to believe he paid £5 to put the fake copy in the window or £5 to buy a jumper .

He still hasn’t told us the odds AS WAS ASKED TO AGAIN AND AGAIN.

And he HASN'T DISCLOSED THE BOOKMAKERS THAT HE USED, neither the company or the shop address. AGAIN AS CONTINUALLY ASKED

BULL FROM START TO FINISH AND CONTINUING A LIE AFTER BEING TOLD WE KNOW HE IS LYING AND EVEN SHOWING HIM WE KNOW.
Most people tend to grow out of this mindset ( and bicycles ) around the age of 10 the ones that don’t MAY grow up to be terrible narcissistic liars that will go to any lengths FABRICATING EVIDENCE to try to prove right what everyone can see is wrong and CHANGING THE SUBJECT when they get CAUGHT out and LYING FURTHER often using a technique called babbling or better known as word salad and let’s face it this thread and ones lately and 20 yrs of crap bicycle car hating threads and fake climate change threads sort of proves that beyond any doubt.

Look everyone ……you all read past his post not noticing the bollox he wrote that was at best an easy load of rot to spot but as soon as I asked for the ticket all I got offered was a doctored photo copy that SOMEHOW couldn’t be posted for all to see .EVEN A MATE WITH A CAMERA COULDN'T WORK OUT HOW TO POST IT SO A COPY HAD TO GO IN A SHOP WINDOW HA HA PLEASE ..
Then asked for the odds that now dont make sense just like the story .
Then I asked for the address of the bookies and WORD SALAD WAS USED TO WASH OVER THAT offering “ohh I made a mistake “ “ I should have “ when there was no should have as bookies don’t barter at the point of sale with odds AND NOT ANSWERING ANY SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED ONLY PROVES THAT …
A liar caught lying and shown everyone knows he is lying then continues to lie in our faces not only can’t be trusted or taken seriously ( not that he is and that’s a clue right there ) but is a waste of effort to talk to because they will never stop lying and end up thinking they have fooled everyone even after everyone is calling bullcrap .

So does this sound familiar of this character, this special kind of nonesense bullcrap character.

Once the mask slips it’s hard for him to put it back on and it slips every post he makes as this post there’s nothing that he has said, tried or have us believe that makes sense and adds up. It’s now hard NOT to see . And not forgetting the original storyline that was too good to be true or super unlikely to start with .

You’re wasting your time Mick. But don’t go away because any time soon there’ll be a report of “A horse running a red light and knocking a cyclist over”

[Alikado]

The bet was each way, so would be £5 for a win, £5 for a place (£10 in total) but even as each way bet the payout doesn't calculate, see my other post.

A £5 bet could be £2.50 each way and at odds of 14/1 with 1/4 odds for the place would yield a profit of £43+.

[The PNP]

He says it’s a mistake to accept the odds on offer at the time but they were from 12/1 to 16/1 depending on which bookie or SHOP you used and can be seen right now if you look on the internet .
And goes on to NOT answer any questions asked .
None of this adds up because it is nonesense , the odds were at the very best 16/1 and at the very worst 12/1 and you can go look them up right now online.
That means as I said a five pound bet each way is a £10 bet on a win ( you can also look that up ) … it gets more complicated on a place 1st2nd3rd but it won so at the minimum of 12/1 he would get £120 + his stake back so yea £130. And the maximum 16/1 would be £160 +stake = £170
And like I said to get even close to the £43 he claims ( which is a very odd bullcrap number ) his odds would have to be something like 3.5/1 =£45 and that’s the closest I can get it to £43 without going into fractions.

Basically it’s tripe from start to finish.
It’s a copy that’s being presented that he and his mate made.
AFTER HE WAS REPEATEDLY ASKED TO POST THE ORIGINAL HERE MANY TIMES (original would have date time odds value bookies and so on)
The copy will have to be changed as soon as the shop opens as he forgot to add the odds and probably place of bet.
AND I TOLD YOU HE WOULD ONLY PRODUCE A COOY ..but we all saw that coming right?

He is now trying to authenticate the whole thing by giving us the exact currency ALLEGEDLY received by the bookies THAT DOSENT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. I don’t know wheather to believe he paid £5 to put the fake copy in the window or £5 to buy a jumper .

He still hasn’t told us the odds AS WAS ASKED TO AGAIN AND AGAIN.

And he HASN'T DISCLOSED THE BOOKMAKERS THAT HE USED, neither the company or the shop address. AGAIN AS CONTINUALLY ASKED

BULL FROM START TO FINISH AND CONTINUING A LIE AFTER BEING TOLD WE KNOW HE IS LYING AND EVEN SHOWING HIM WE KNOW.
Most people tend to grow out of this mindset ( and bicycles ) around the age of 10 the ones that don’t MAY grow up to be terrible narcissistic liars that will go to any lengths FABRICATING EVIDENCE to try to prove right what everyone can see is wrong and CHANGING THE SUBJECT when they get CAUGHT out and LYING FURTHER often using a technique called babbling or better known as word salad and let’s face it this thread and ones lately and 20 yrs of crap bicycle car hating threads and fake climate change threads sort of proves that beyond any doubt.

Look everyone ……you all read past his post not noticing the bollox he wrote that was at best an easy load of rot to spot but as soon as I asked for the ticket all I got offered was a doctored photo copy that SOMEHOW couldn’t be posted for all to see .EVEN A MATE WITH A CAMERA COULDN'T WORK OUT HOW TO POST IT SO A COPY HAD TO GO IN A SHOP WINDOW HA HA PLEASE ..
Then asked for the odds that now dont make sense just like the story .
Then I asked for the address of the bookies and WORD SALAD WAS USED TO WASH OVER THAT offering “ohh I made a mistake “ “ I should have “ when there was no should have as bookies don’t barter at the point of sale with odds AND NOT ANSWERING ANY SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED ONLY PROVES THAT …
A liar caught lying and shown everyone knows he is lying then continues to lie in our faces not only can’t be trusted or taken seriously ( not that he is and that’s a clue right there ) but is a waste of effort to talk to because they will never stop lying and end up thinking they have fooled everyone even after everyone is calling bullcrap .

So does this sound familiar of this character, this special kind of nonesense bullcrap character.

Once the mask slips it’s hard for him to put it back on and it slips every post he makes as this post there’s nothing that he has said, tried or have us believe that makes sense and adds up. It’s now hard NOT to see . And not forgetting the original storyline that was too good to be true or super unlikely to start with .

I've already told you what I know, i.e. name of horse, my stake and my winnings. All the other stuff you want, is printed on the ticket.

Btw, by the time you typed that last post, you could have nipped to the Lifeboat shop and taken a pic of it. Then posted a frameshot of it on here - duh!

[MICK/GILLY]

A £5 bet could be £2.50 each way and at odds of 14/1 with 1/4 odds for the place would yield a profit of £43+.

No a £2.50 bet each way is a £5 win on 14/1 =£70+£5 stake =£75
But if you look he said £5 each way that’s a £10 win so even at 14/1 would be £150.
Thanks for your imagination / help tho but no .

[MICK/GILLY]

I've already told you what I know, i.e. name of horse, my stake and my winnings. All the other stuff you want, is printed on the ticket.

Btw, by the time you typed that last post, you could have nipped to the Lifeboat shop and taken a pic of it. Then posted a frameshot of it on here - duh!

You have not told us the odds or the bookies that you placed the bet and have PREDICTABLY not posted the original slip AND PREDICTABLY offered a copy that is most likely as wrong as you are .

In that time you (or your mate with a camera could have posted it or even sent me a txt with the ORIGINAL but as it’s all Bollox and never happened you couldn’t .
And from the info given on one of my last posts it’s plain to see I couldn’t just nip to the lifeboat shop to see a doctored copy with no odds or bookies on it .
As far as I can see IT NEVER HAPPENED, it’s just More PNP bullcrap lies Bollox.

[MICK/GILLY]

You’re wasting your time Mick. But don’t go away because any time soon there’ll be a report of “A horse running a red light and knocking a cyclist over”

No it’s ok I look at this like a tangled fishing wire that leads to 3 fishing rods, everyone gets a sense that they have caught a whopper but no one can tell how big it is until you take the time to study and unwind it.
Then when it’s put into straight lines it’s clear to see the size of the seaweed that the truth was hiding behind.
In this case it was a big stink fish stinking of bullshat .
And now the lines are clear it’s easy to see .

[The PNP]

You have not told us the odds or the bookies that you placed the bet and have PREDICTABLY not posted the original slip AND PREDICTABLY offered a copy that is most likely as wrong as you are .

In that time you (or your mate with a camera could have posted it or even sent me a txt with the ORIGINAL but as it’s all Bollox and never happened you couldn’t .
And from the info given on one of my last posts it’s plain to see I couldn’t just nip to the lifeboat shop to see a doctored copy with no odds or bookies on it .
As far as I can see IT NEVER HAPPENED, it’s just More PNP bullcrap lies Bollox.

Most likely wrong? Then take a really good magnifying glass, or send someone with one to examine it minutely....If I was as good at forging betting-slips as you seem to think, I'd be a multi-millionaire by now - duh!

[MICK/GILLY]

Maybe they can see on it the SIMPLE AND CLEAR ORIGINAL INFO you have not been providing despite being asked AGAIN AND AGAIN , maybe they can see the time /date, odds and the bookies SHOP that you SAY you placed this bet that fell at the first fence but turned out to be the winner and that suddenly you and your mate have forgotten how to post a picture but can manage to take a photo of it and put in a shop window … what a farce, what a long way around to cover a lie STILL NOT REVEALING ANY INFO but just carrying on the bull as if a doctored copy will suffice .
I don’t imagine you to be good at forging anything, you can’t even tell a simple lie without tripping yourself up a hundred times on EVERY issue then refusing to show PROPER UNDOCTORED evidence clearly when asked I fully expect this poorly doctored copy to not give any more info than you have already, I think YOU imagine it will prove something BUT YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT OUT AT EVERY JUNCTURE.
You are literally the fish that has been hooked by its own mouth .

[Alikado]

No a £2.50 bet each way is a £5 win on 14/1 =£70+£5 stake =£75
But if you look he said £5 each way that’s a £10 win so even at 14/1 would be £150.
Thanks for your imagination / help tho but no .

A £5EW bet is £5 to win & £5 for a place which is usually 1/4 or 1/5 the odds.

But if someone has staked £5 in an ew bet they could have staked £2.50 ew totalling £5.
£2.50 to win @ 14-1 wins £35
£2.50 to place wins £8.75
Total £43.75 + £5 stake back.

[MICK/GILLY]

A £5EW bet is £5 to win & £5 for a place which is usually 1/4 or 1/5 the odds.

But if someone has staked £5 in an ew bet they could have staked £2.50 ew totalling £5.
£2.50 to win @ 14-1 wins £35
£2.50 to place wins £8.75
Total £43.75 + £5 stake back.

Could have, may have, didn’t do.

Yea but he said he placed £5 each way that’s a tenner and even after your jumping through hoops with your maths gymnastics dreaming up things he didn’t say then …he would still be giving the wrong figures as his ticket states his winnings to be £43 NOT £48.75. ( so HE says ) .

Even if you use the wrong info and try your best it don’t add up .
Even a £5 win alone on 12/1 min odds it’s £60+ stake £5 =£65.
If you can find odds lower than 12/1 or higher than 16/1 for this horse in this race then try but they are all still online from different bookies and that’s the range of odds offered .

And he did say on post 90

“What I do recall, was the amount I would receive in event of winning, was/is printed on the ticket, i.e. £43....And when I cashed it today, that's what I got: two £20's and three x £1 coins”.

And on post 79 he said

“Original has now been surrendered/cashed at the bookies and I'm still £38 quid better-off, even after donating a £fiver of my winnings to a worthy cause”.

So again you are wrong as in some dimension that only he is in he must have received £38 winnings and a fiver stake back ( and this alone dosent make sense )

None of it makes sense no matter how you juggle the figures in this circus of nonesense that is on show . .he could have cleared it up by posting the ticket in the first instance but that would have shown him up immediatly ( not that the storyline at the start didn’t ) .
So next time you join him dreaming up what might have been it’s best to take into account the reality of the situation and what he ACTUALLY SAYS not adding up in ANY WAY and being total nonesense as usual or you will look as daft as him in his fantasy world trying to figure it out to add up.
None of this makes sense from start to finish and to frustrate it at every step instead of posting the ticket well ….IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

[gsgsgs]

Could have, may have, didn’t do.

Yea but he said he placed £5 each way that’s a tenner and even after your jumping through hoops with your maths gymnastics dreaming up things he didn’t say then …he would still be giving the wrong figures as his ticket states his winnings to be £43 NOT £48.75. ( so HE says ) .

Even if you use the wrong info and try your best it don’t add up .
Even a £5 win alone on 12/1 min odds it’s £60+ stake £5 =£65.
If you can find odds lower than 12/1 or higher than 16/1 for this horse in this race then try but they are all still online from different bookies and that’s the range of odds offered .

And he did say on post 90

“What I do recall, was the amount I would receive in event of winning, was/is printed on the ticket, i.e. £43....And when I cashed it today, that's what I got: two £20's and three x £1 coins”.

And on post 79 he said

“Original has now been surrendered/cashed at the bookies and I'm still £38 quid better-off, even after donating a £fiver of my winnings to a worthy cause”.

So again you are wrong as in some dimension that only he is in he must have received £38 winnings and a fiver stake back ( and this alone dosent make sense )

None of it makes sense no matter how you juggle the figures in this circus of nonesense that is on show . .he could have cleared it up by posting the ticket in the first instance but that would have shown him up immediatly ( not that the storyline at the start didn’t ) .
So next time you join him dreaming up what might have been it’s best to take into account the reality of the situation and what he ACTUALLY SAYS not adding up in ANY WAY and being total nonesense as usual or you will look as daft as him in his fantasy world trying to figure it out to add up.
None of this makes sense from start to finish and to frustrate it at every step instead of posting the ticket well ….IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

The starting price was 7/1, anyone betting last minute or accepting the SP would have received odds of 7/1 but still doesn't give a return of £43, closest I can get is £43.75 which is odds of 7/1 paying out for four places but still doesn't account for the return of the £10 stake.

[The PNP]

Could have, may have, didn’t do.

Yea but he said he placed £5 each way that’s a tenner and even after your jumping through hoops with your maths gymnastics dreaming up things he didn’t say then …he would still be giving the wrong figures as his ticket states his winnings to be £43 NOT £48.75. ( so HE says ) .

Even if you use the wrong info and try your best it don’t add up .
Even a £5 win alone on 12/1 min odds it’s £60+ stake £5 =£65.
If you can find odds lower than 12/1 or higher than 16/1 for this horse in this race then try but they are all still online from different bookies and that’s the range of odds offered .

And he did say on post 90

“What I do recall, was the amount I would receive in event of winning, was/is printed on the ticket, i.e. £43....And when I cashed it today, that's what I got: two £20's and three x £1 coins”.

And on post 79 he said

“Original has now been surrendered/cashed at the bookies and I'm still £38 quid better-off, even after donating a £fiver of my winnings to a worthy cause”.

So again you are wrong as in some dimension that only he is in he must have received £38 winnings and a fiver stake back ( and this alone dosent make sense )

None of it makes sense no matter how you juggle the figures in this circus of nonesense that is on show . .he could have cleared it up by posting the ticket in the first instance but that would have shown him up immediatly ( not that the storyline at the start didn’t ) .
So next time you join him dreaming up what might have been it’s best to take into account the reality of the situation and what he ACTUALLY SAYS not adding up in ANY WAY and being total nonesense as usual or you will look as daft as him in his fantasy world trying to figure it out to add up.
None of this makes sense from start to finish and to frustrate it at every step instead of posting the ticket well ….IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

It did happen..

Didn't!

Did!

Didn't!

Did!

Etc......

There's only one way you'll ever know for sure mate, and that's by donating a £fiver at the Lifeboat shop on Everton Rd and retrieving the A4 copy from their window. Or if you can't go there yourself, simply delegate someone to go get it for you.

[MICK/GILLY]

You told an unbelievable story that no one believes IT DIDNT HAPPEN
You were asked to post the original ticket on here OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN
You were told that you would only posts doctored copy THAT YOUR MATE WITH A CAMERA MADE UP and you didn’t even do that as you posted it in a shop window SO IT NEVER HAPPENED
Then claimed I had bet you. £50 £100 then £500 then settled at a fiver AND I DIDNT so. IT DIDNT HAPPEN.
You were asked what were your odds you skipped around the subject and came up with everything but the answer so IT DIDNT HAPPEN .
Then you were asked which betting shop you used and more word salad and talked about anything else AROUND THE WORLD in your changing the subject fashion that’s old now on here SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
Then you dream up a story of your winnings that don’t match ANY odds on the day even trying to re enforce the obvious lie by quoting the exact currency you received and that was never going to wash SO IT DIDNT HAPPEN. (liars often embellish their lies to seem true in fact they often give it away by saying far more detail that didn’t happen than they need to)
Then using other accounts and one enabler to desperately try and work out the bet ( that couldn’t be done ) to ANY amount that might fit the win even forgetting the £5 you SAY you gave the lifeboat folks and that didn’t work anywhere near soo IT NEVER HAPPENED

It NEVER HAPPENED AT ANY STAGE …. NONE OF IT .
And now there’s a blag made up doctored copy of a pretend betting slip in a charity window or is that just a blag aswell .

If people want to believe you and your games that are easily rumbled then they must be as simple as you are .
Next time you are caught out lying come clean and you will look less of a special kind of fool .

[MICK/GILLY]

The starting price was 7/1, anyone betting last minute or accepting the SP would have received odds of 7/1 but still doesn't give a return of £43, closest I can get is £43.75 which is odds of 7/1 paying out for four places but still doesn't account for the return of the £10 stake.

That’s because it’s nonesense and different bookies had different prices and if you search then the range was from 12/1 to 16/1 so try all you like you can’t tally a purse out of a pigs ear of a lie.
Given his account, explanation his avoidance of simple facts and basic lie of this AT EVERY LEVEL AT EVERY STAGE he is STILL delusional even thinking that people believe him OR ANY OF IT .