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Boozy MPs
The current fiasco concerning some MPs appalling behaviour seems to flag up alcohol as a prime factor in many cases. I was surprised to read that some of our honourable members have been barely able to stand whilst being ushered through the voting lobbies. Coming from a 'normal' job I would have been sacked if I turned up p*ssed but a different set of rules clearly applies to our elected representatives.
Is it me ? Quite apart from getting themselves involved in misbehaviour I just don't want MPs to vote on Laws which govern me whilst they are inebriated! Whatever the new parliamentary guidelines say - it should include a statement that MPs will not be allowed into the chamber if under the influence of alcohol - maybe random breath testing should be brought in🍷🍷. Just a thought.
Whatever it is - I blame Brexit!
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To a certain extent, given their constituency duties, committee work and any ministerial roles, MP's are probably doing least harm when sitting in the house and of course there are relatively few unwhipped votes, so ultimately as long as they can be got through the lobbies, being P****d won't make a whole lot of difference !
Seriously, of course you are right, although "being an MP" is more than just a job as it does take over their whole life. Being asked not to drink on duty is akin to you being told not to have a couple of bottles of PG during Strictly in case your boss or client sends an email. It happened to me during Casualty, but I had dealt with it by 9am Sunday.
In principle I agree with you absolutely, but I'm not so sure in practice.
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Citroen synergie
It doesn't change wherever you work, male and female will always
be attracted. I am male and agree totally there are some sh... amongst
our gender who really should be put down.
There are also some ladies who fail for 'of course I love you' only to be told get real after.
People in power promise in return for.
Now lets get to normal life and you yearn for the Christmas party where
he or she can get to grips with. Then put it down to the booze.{justified}
Now, lets kill it for the kids in the cinema.Chomping away at the popcorn
when he thinks I'll try my luck and put my arm around her .{hell no..
inappropriate behaviour] Lets not think about the slow smooch on the dance floor and the hand wanders.
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Consider the following scenario - one which I suspect a significant part of the population have experienced.
A man and a woman are out of their trees on alcohol, passion takes over and they get jiggy.
The next day the woman decides that, for whatever reason, she didn't want to have sex with the man and - that he neither sought nor was given her consent.
Under current guidelines, and the law as it stands, the man is a rapist.
I would like someone sensible to explain to me how this is either just - or - serves to protect anyone.
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Originally Posted by Squeeezebox
The current fiasco concerning some MPs appalling behaviour seems to flag up alcohol as a prime factor in many cases. I was surprised to read that some of our honourable members have been barely able to stand whilst being ushered through the voting lobbies. Coming from a 'normal' job I would have been sacked if I turned up p*ssed but a different set of rules clearly applies to our elected representatives.
Is it me ? Quite apart from getting themselves involved in misbehaviour I just don't want MPs to vote on Laws which govern me whilst they are inebriated! Whatever the new parliamentary guidelines say - it should include a statement that MPs will not be allowed into the chamber if under the influence of alcohol - maybe random breath testing should be brought in🍷🍷. Just a thought.
Telegraph, May 2014:
"The House of Commons spent more than £1.4 million on alcohol to sell in Palace of Westminster bars - including more than 70,000 bottles of wine.
Parliamentary authorities bought nearly 50,000 bottles of House of Commons sauvignon, more than 26,000 of house merlot and more than 33,000 pints of guest ale.
More than 8,500 bottles of champagne were purchased alongside over 2,100 bottles of Speaker John Bercow's whiskey.
The figures were revealed in a Freedom of Information request by the Times about money spent on alcohol by the House of Commons in 2012 and 2013."
For the one year only!!
In February 2017, There was a Parliamentary Brief with regard to BMA's concern on alcoholism:
"The BMA has long been concerned about the levels of alcohol-related harm in the UK and welcomed the UK Chief Medical Officers’ recommendation, last year, to bring the guidelines for safe levels of drinking for men in line with the guideline for women as well as the advice for drink-free days." This of course, does not affect anyone in Parliament.
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Blaming booze is a cop out. The attitude or lack of respect had to be there in the first place.
I don't knock back a few whiskeys then grab men's bollocks.
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[QUOTE]Blaming booze is a cop out. The attitude or lack of respect had to be there in the first place.
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Quite apart from their outrageous behaviour towards women , my point was that the 'booze culture' displays a lack of respect towards their unique position as elected representatives , and must compromise their capability to undertake their jobs effectively and should itself result in disciplinary action - as it would in virtually all other public service jobs. ?
I am sure that the large majority of MPs are good hard working and ( when at work) sober , but the 'tolerance' which has been extended to a minority who abuse their position surely now needs to stop , as it is out of step with standards demanded of The rest of us.
Whatever it is - I blame Brexit!
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[QUOTE=Squeeezebox;6618928]
Blaming booze is a cop out. The attitude or lack of respect had to be there in the first place.
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Quite apart from their outrageous behaviour towards women , my point was that the 'booze culture' displays a lack of respect towards their unique position as elected representatives , and must compromise their capability to undertake their jobs effectively and should itself result in disciplinary action - as it would in virtually all other public service jobs. ?
I am sure that the large majority of MPs are good hard working and ( when at work) sober , but the 'tolerance' which has been extended to a minority who abuse their position surely now needs to stop , as it is out of step with standards demanded of The rest of us.
You are absolutely correct.
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