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OK you lot - Free Tommy Robinson - yes or no? What do you think?
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No, he is not above the law and should have abided by the terms of his sentence.
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The protests since he was incarcerated have provided such a rich seam of satire on social media the world would be a poorer place without him.
Habitual criminal commits criminal offence, gets put into prison. It's not really a story.
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Originally Posted by Albion102
The protests since he was incarcerated have provided such a rich seam of satire on social media the world would be a poorer place without him.
Habitual criminal commits criminal offence, gets put into prison. It's not really a story.
Aka?????
Devil in disguise,
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Originally Posted by Polly Trott
OK you lot - Free Tommy Robinson - yes or no? What do you think?
The guy does not have a clear focus, he has no set plans or ideas, he does not even try - he is an attention seeker who continually changes his name and thoroughly enjoys what he does - gets attention.
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He was arrested for contempt of court. I fully agree with his arrest, what he was doing was extremely dangerous.
This article is a legal perspective which is accurate
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/...ommy-robinson/
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Originally Posted by Normal
He was arrested for contempt of court. I fully agree with his arrest, what he was doing was extremely dangerous.
Wrong. If you watch the video of the arrest you will see that he was arrested for alleged breach of the peace. That's clearly what the police say on camera. He was then tried in a kangaroo court within 4 hours for an entirely different offence of contempt of court. Not due process at all. What he was doing was manifestly not dangerous. The trial was in its sentencing stage so nothing he said could influence a jury; everything he said during his livestream was information that was already in the public domain. In addition, the suspended sentence hanging over him was for 3 months but he was sent down for 13 months; he was denied his own lawyer; there was a media blackout on his trial.
They've basically been gunning for Tommy Robinson for a while as his following has been growing - especially since he became more "respectable" with his work for The Rebel and his recent independent journalism focusing on the stories that the establishment media won't touch because of its politically correct bias.
He's a working class hero that the traitor class wants to silence because they do not wish to face up to the scale of the grooming gang scandal that continues to grow. Thousands of white and Sikh girls have been raped and molested by these organised gangs largely from one community - Muslim men of Pakistani heritage - as officially found by the Professor Alexis Jay report (and acknowledged by Maajid Nawaz and Trevor Phillips among others) but the police, media and politicians think that is OK and seek to hide it for some pipedream of "community cohesion". The thousands of young girl victims are deemed disposable in the propogation of the new state religion of "diversity". Tommy wasn't letting them get away with it so he had to be silenced again. He's an uneducated loudmouth with a tendency to get over-excited but his heart is in the right place. He has the courage to do what our enfeebled television and newspaper journalists fail to. I don't expect he's surprised to be back in clink but it is unjust. Let's hope that he doesn't die while in there as there have been attempts on his life in the past.
Such a pity that we don't have any right to free speech in this country. Interesting, too, that these grooming trials are now habitually covered by reporting bans so that we can't know just how widespread they have become. Without the likes of Tommy, reporting at great personal cost, we're unlikely to ever know just how screwed this country has become. Especially as our increasingly authoritarian government keeps out any foreign journalists or interested parties who may report accurately on the issues (entry bans are in place on Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, Martin Selner, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, etc.). We poor little loyal subjects are not permitted to be told what is really going on. If only we had a written constitution complete with First Amendment rights.....
Meanwhile, our "tough" journalists here are busy reporting on Princess Markle's latest outfit and whether she eats with the right cutlery. Bread and circuses, folks.
There's a good round up of the current situation here:
https://youtu.be/9RPoitFQQ8Y
Last edited by dav; 11/06/2018 at 12:54 AM.
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He's a power-hungry, racist thug, desperate for some kind of celebrity. The only way to achieve this is by rabble rousing other racist morons. The type of knuckle dragging crap-bags that join the EDL, the BNP and the like. He tries to come across as some kind of Messiah, martyring himself for the cause. A pound shop Oswald Mosely. He's basically a football hooligan that got a taste for publicity.
He's been repeatedly convicted of violent offences. And passport fraud, mortgage fraud. His most recent arrest was when Robinson admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. He was already on a suspended sentence for a previous contempt offence in Canterbury last year.
Now if he targeted ALL grooming gangs, black, white, Muslim, I could see his point. And I do think that there is an institutional hesitation of naming and investigating Muslim grooming gangs for fear of racism accusations. I do believe there's a culture amongst Pakistani Muslims that see girls outside their religion as disposable, somehow worth less that their 'own' girls. I've seen it first hand. But I don't believe for one second that 'Robinson' is acting on behalf of the girls involved. He craves recognition, and he's tapped into a rich seam of thick racists that see him as legitimising their hatred of 'others'.
There are plenty of organisations that fight against the spread of Islamism. The think-tank 'Quilliam', for example, fight against radicalisation without violence. But that doesn't get them on the front page of 'The Sun'.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
He's a power-hungry, racist thug, desperate for some kind of celebrity. The only way to achieve this is by rabble rousing other racist morons. The type of knuckle dragging crap-bags that join the EDL, the BNP and the like. He tries to come across as some kind of Messiah, martyring himself for the cause. A pound shop Oswald Mosely. He's basically a football hooligan that got a taste for publicity.
He's been repeatedly convicted of violent offences. And passport fraud, mortgage fraud. His most recent arrest was when Robinson admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. He was already on a suspended sentence for a previous contempt offence in Canterbury last year.
Now if he targeted ALL grooming gangs, black, white, Muslim, I could see his point. And I do think that there is an institutional hesitation of naming and investigating Muslim grooming gangs for fear of racism accusations. I do believe there's a culture amongst Pakistani Muslims that see girls outside their religion as disposable, somehow worth less that their 'own' girls. I've seen it first hand. But I don't believe for one second that 'Robinson' is acting on behalf of the girls involved. He craves recognition, and he's tapped into a rich seam of thick racists that see him as legitimising their hatred of 'others'.
There are plenty of organisations that fight against the spread of Islamism. The think-tank 'Quilliam', for example, fight against radicalisation without violence. But that doesn't get them on the front page of 'The Sun'.
Toodles you may be correct, but I honestly believe that there is a very serious agenda which must be brought out into the open...not swept under the carpet, which is evident has been happening in the past..
I don’t care if it’s Whites, Blacks, jews, Muslims, Christians Sikhs or whatever...bring it out into the open, regardless of the consequences..these are young children, some supposedly under government care..
The Times reporter, Andrew Norfolk, gives quite an insite to a very sensitive and obviously until now , problem which has been ignored ...
https://youtu.be/D7xhNYJV430
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Originally Posted by shippy
Toodles you may be correct, but I honestly believe that there is a very serious agenda which must be brought out into the open...not swept under the carpet, which is evident has been happening in the past..
I don’t care if it’s Whites, Blacks, jews, Muslims, Christians Sikhs or whatever...bring it out into the open, regardless of the consequences..these are young children, some supposedly under government care..
The Times reporter, Andrew Norfolk, gives quite an insite to a very sensitive and obviously until now , problem which has been ignored ...
https://youtu.be/D7xhNYJV430
Agreed, Shippy. The problem is that 'Robinson' is not the man to bring this into the public eye. It should be investigated properly. There is a culture of Pakistani men seeing white girls as easy meat, no two ways about it. But inciting racist thugs making Nazi salutes does no good.
If anything, it actually helps the groomers. When the rest of the population see a football hooligan leading NF / BNP followers into protests that inevitably become violent, any agenda to stop these grooming gangs becomes lost. It becomes white supremacists rallying, not concerned citizens protesting peacefully.
As I mentioned, I've seen these men in action. I know it goes on and it is sickening. Of course grooming gangs come in all creeds and colours. But thuggery isn't going to stop it.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Agreed, Shippy. The problem is that 'Robinson' is not the man to bring this into the public eye. It should be investigated properly. There is a culture of Pakistani men seeing white girls as easy meat, no two ways about it. But inciting racist thugs making Nazi salutes does no good.
If anything, it actually helps the groomers. When the rest of the population see a football hooligan leading NF / BNP followers into protests that inevitably become violent, any agenda to stop these grooming gangs becomes lost. It becomes white supremacists rallying, not concerned citizens protesting peacefully.
As I mentioned, I've seen these men in action. I know it goes on and it is sickening. Of course grooming gangs come in all creeds and colours. But thuggery isn't going to stop it.
Totally agree Toodles, its much better if people like Andrew Norfolk from 'The Times' , who can be trusted totally with the task of exposing these paedaphiles, druggists and rapists....for what they are.
Definitely not someone who is a racist and gives Nazi salutes ..
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Keep him under lock and key.
That fellow is provoking the wrong people.
It is not the ruling establishment causing the problem.
Local issues with local failings.
Labour won't upset their voter base.
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Originally Posted by dav
Wrong. If you watch the video of the arrest you will see that he was arrested for alleged breach of the peace. That's clearly what the police say on camera. He was then tried in a kangaroo court within 4 hours for an entirely different offence of contempt of court. Not due process at all. What he was doing was manifestly not dangerous. The trial was in its sentencing stage so nothing he said could influence a jury; everything he said during his livestream was information that was already in the public domain. In addition, the suspended sentence hanging over him was for 3 months but he was sent down for 13 months; he was denied his own lawyer; there was a media blackout on his trial.
They've basically been gunning for Tommy Robinson for a while as his following has been growing - especially since he became more "respectable" with his work for The Rebel and his recent independent journalism focusing on the stories that the establishment media won't touch because of its politically correct bias.
He's a working class hero that the traitor class wants to silence because they do not wish to face up to the scale of the grooming gang scandal that continues to grow. Thousands of white and Sikh girls have been raped and molested by these organised gangs largely from one community - Muslim men of Pakistani heritage - as officially found by the Professor Alexis Jay report (and acknowledged by Maajid Nawaz and Trevor Phillips among others) but the police, media and politicians think that is OK and seek to hide it for some pipedream of "community cohesion". The thousands of young girl victims are deemed disposable in the propogation of the new state religion of "diversity". Tommy wasn't letting them get away with it so he had to be silenced again. He's an uneducated loudmouth with a tendency to get over-excited but his heart is in the right place. He has the courage to do what our enfeebled television and newspaper journalists fail to. I don't expect he's surprised to be back in clink but it is unjust. Let's hope that he doesn't die while in there as there have been attempts on his life in the past.
Such a pity that we don't have any right to free speech in this country. Interesting, too, that these grooming trials are now habitually covered by reporting bans so that we can't know just how widespread they have become. Without the likes of Tommy, reporting at great personal cost, we're unlikely to ever know just how screwed this country has become. Especially as our increasingly authoritarian government keeps out any foreign journalists or interested parties who may report accurately on the issues (entry bans are in place on Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, Martin Selner, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, etc.). We poor little loyal subjects are not permitted to be told what is really going on. If only we had a written constitution complete with First Amendment rights.....
Meanwhile, our "tough" journalists here are busy reporting on Princess Markle's latest outfit and whether she eats with the right cutlery. Bread and circuses, folks.
There's a good round up of the current situation here:
https://youtu.be/9RPoitFQQ8Y
As someone on twitter said far more eloquently that I ever could - since when did working class hero become a synonym for ignorant racist ****?
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Originally Posted by Polly Trott
As someone on twitter said far more eloquently that I ever could - since when did working class hero become a synonym for ignorant racist ****?
Pure poetry Trotty. Up to your usual standard.
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Who is this "Tommy Robinson" paragon of free speech and campaigner for justice? or do you mean Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (his real name) serial criminal already with assorted convictions to his rap sheet and at the time on a suspended sentence for attempting to interfere with a previous court case.
This brat will use any occasion real or not to push his racist agenda, also very clear when followers style is abuse of the police, racist chants and Hitler salutes, in reality he is the enemy of all who wish to combat grooming gangs and and abusers, simply because the majority will turn away from an outfit which attracts thugs and hooligans like ducks to water.
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