Manchester Arena

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...rorist_attacks

All committed by little darlings that have had their feelings hurt through Facebook?

Unfortunately we have witnessed ISIS backed
terrorism by highly educated people.
Not timid, lacking in self esteem,
The attempted bombing at Glasgow airport
was carried out by a Medical Doctor..

The terrorists who felled the towers 15
Years ago were also educated terrorists..

I understand where Cavey is coming from
regarding the lack of self esteem etc etc,
but not in this particular case..


All the media and information
coming out of Manchester, shows thatthis evil evil
bar steward was brain washed by his own
Fathers political views and previous actions..
In the Muslim world the Father is the "leader"
respected and his political motives followed.for good and bad..
Seems all the Abedi brothers, ( may they rot in hell)
have all taken on themselves to make their Father proud..

[Styx]

Unfortunately we have witnessed ISIS backed
terrorism by highly educated people.
Not timid, lacking in self esteem,
The attempted bombing at Glasgow airport
was carried out by a Medical Doctor..

The terrorists who felled the towers 15
Years ago were also educated terrorists..

I understand where Cavey is coming from
regarding the lack of self esteem etc etc,
but not in this particular case..


All the media and information
coming out of Manchester, shows thatthis evil evil
bar steward was brain washed by his own
Fathers political views and previous actions..
In the Muslim world the Father is the "leader"
respected and his political motives followed.for good and bad..
Seems all the Abedi brothers, ( may they rot in hell)
have all taken on themselves to make their Father proud..

I have no time for apologists.

This makes for an interesting read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/op...usain-opinion/

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I have no time for apologists.

This makes for an interesting read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/op...usain-opinion/

Very interesting read indeed Styx...it states exactly what we are unfortunately faced with today...it is the truth which I totally agree with..

I have no intention to condone anybody who bites the hand that feeds them...but recently we have seen young 14 and 15 year British Muslim girls disappearing into Syria to join Daish (ISIS)...how do the security services handle a situation like this ?
Quite a problem when youngster are involved ..

[Desert Region]

[QUOTE=Hamble;6599125]

One of the Labour left's most eloquent and sensible senior politicians?

Yes, having one's hair 'bobbed' causes pacifism.

[(For purpose of above clarity) Hamble's response is: "Yes, having one's hair 'bobbed' causes pacifism.]

Whatever the state or style of Diane's hair, I should have thought she would have welcomed the opportunity to state that she actually did classify Al Qaeda, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and Lashkar-e-Taiba as terrorist organisations (rather than as dissident groups), but no, she deflected at every turn.

As she did when Andrew Marr confronted her about her remarks, from 1984, when she espoused support for the IRA's actions against the British State (as she preferred to characterise the recipient(s) of the IRA's actions).

[Below is an extract from the transcript I provided on my post #103, above on this thread.]

Andrew Marr: But to know how to go forward we have to look behind and look at people’s records, which is why I’ve been talking about you. Now, Jeremy Corbyn got into some trouble with Andrew Neil in his interview where he said he had not met the IRA, and he was then photographed with lots of people from the IRA during the course of his career. You yourself said that a defeat for the British state would be a great liberation, a great move forward at that period of time. Do you regret your support for the IRA back in the ‘80s?

Diane Abbott: That particular quote you’re referring to comes from a now-defunct Left newspaper, and it has, as well as –

Andrew Marr: But you said it didn’t you?

Diane Abbott: - no, no, no, but what I’m saying to you is this: it was 34 years ago, I had a rather splendid afro at the time – I don’t have the same hairstyle and I don’t have the same views, and it’s 34 years on. The hairstyle has gone and some of the views have gone.

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The "no, no, no" denial is very interesting in two respects.

It occurs during 2:57 to 2:58 of the video embedded at the top of my post #103 and I think it captures an essence of Diane's personality, namely that of a wise adult figure shushing a silly child.

Also, the denial is either another sign of her forgetfulness, or an outright deliberate lie.

It's difficult to favour the forgetfulness angle as she states just previously: "That particular quote you’re referring to comes from a now-defunct Left newspaper."

Therefore, she is acutely cognizant and mindful of the quote, the interview from which it was sourced, and the newspaper who published the interview.


"The interview was published in Labour and Ireland, the journal of the Labour Committee on Ireland (LCI), a small pro-republican support group in the party that operated at the height of the IRA’s armed struggle in the 1980s and early 1990s. Abbott and Corbyn spoke at several LCI meetings.

LCI organised many events with Sinn Fein, including a controversial fringe meeting with party leader Gerry Adams and Corbyn at the 1989 Labour conference in Brighton, near the Grand Hotel, which was bombed by the IRA in 1984, killing five people."

This following link contains a copy of the original published interview:
https://andrewgilliganblog.wordpress...-the-document/

Included is Diane stating: "...is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed."

"The media just take the police and army hand outs as the objective truth. look at the language..."terrorists" "psychopaths."

[When asked if she sees herself as 'Black British'.]
No - I would self-define myself just as Black. Though I was born here in London - I couldn't identify as British.