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    Shocking photographs or are they pieces of art.

    just came across this photograph on Google Images

    may shock some, but may be looked by others as a piece of art



    Do you think this is shocking or bad taste.
    This picture captures all that is wrong with war.
    but has become an icon.



    May be the posters can put some photographs that are shocking to some and not to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanman View Post
    just came across this photograph on Google Images

    may shock some, but may be looked by others as a piece of art



    Do you think this is shocking or bad taste.
    This picture captures all that is wrong with war.
    but has become an icon.



    May be the posters can put some photographs that are shocking to some and not to others.
    I remember seeing that on TV as a piece of newsreel during the vietnam war in the 70s, I think it was something to do with napalm bombing, it was shocking then and its shocking now.
    .....so what if the spelling aint perfect.....the content is valid !!

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    First photo is an artistic portrait of mother & bump, the second photo is a world wide recognized documentation of a horrific event, not art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromafar View Post
    I remember seeing that on TV as a piece of newsreel during the vietnam war in the 70s, I think it was something to do with napalm bombing, it was shocking then and its shocking now.

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    This is the photograph that sent shock waves around the world, nine-year-old Kim was pictured fleeing the attack by the South Vietnamese army on her village with her arms outstretched, naked and screaming for help.

    Thirty-eight years later Kim has been reunited with Christopher Wain, the ITN correspondent who took her to the nearest hospital after the photograph was taken on June 8, 1972.

    Kim told the BBC: "I heard the noise of the bombs then suddenly I saw the fire everywhere around me.

    "I was terrified and I ran out of the fire. I was with my brother and my cousin. We just kept running. My clothes were burned off by the fire."

    A Vietnamese photographer, Nick Ut, took the photograph as she fled the attack and she was still running when Mr Wain stopped her to pour water on her, while instructing his crew to keep filming.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-her-life.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattee1970 View Post
    First photo is an artistic portrait of mother & bump, the second photo is a world wide recognized documentation of a horrific event, not art.
    mattee

    this is a picture of the girl today

    we both agree her smile in the photograph is a piece of art.



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    This reminds of the 'pictures' that were broadacast during the 1980's , during the 'Famine' in Ethiopia, which were 'definatly' made to shock us
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    This picture was shot by Eddie Adams who won the Pulitzer prize with it. The picture shows Nguyen Ngoc Loan, South Vietnam's national police chief executing a prisoner who was said to be a Viet Cong captain. Once again the public opinion was turned against the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanman View Post
    mattee

    this is a picture of the girl today

    we both agree her smile in the photograph is a piece of art.



    True

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    I suppose this photograph will shock the most.




    or this

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    Name:  shocking.jpg
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    Enough to make anyone cry
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    Maybe this was shocking in 1969, or amazing for humans to land on the moon. I wasn't born then but was fascinated about it all as a teen.

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    Iconic image.
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    first pic is demi moore when she did the first ever nude pregnant shot for Vogue.
    followed since by countless celebs

    2nd one won an award last year.

    wouldn't call either of them art.

    first one was for cash and a PR stunt

    second one depicts the epitome of a tragedy
    Old enough to know better but young enough not to care

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    Most artistic portraits are for money hee hee hee

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    re the vietnam war. We visited that part of Vietnam two years ago and the surrounding area is still barren due to the napalm and local people are still having health problems and babies born with disfigurements due to the effects of agent orange. Horrible thing war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hettyketty View Post
    Maybe this was shocking in 1969, or amazing for humans to land on the moon. I wasn't born then but was fascinated about it all as a teen.

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    Iconic image.
    It never really happened though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smythe View Post
    It never really happened though

    Smythe

    77, 78, 81, 84, 05

    this never happened if it it did you would be able to buy the story.

    Back to shocking photographs




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    Quote Originally Posted by Smythe View Post
    It never really happened though
    Yes it did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hettyketty View Post
    Yes it did!
    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
    Nope
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    Quote Originally Posted by theantiquesman View Post
    Smythe

    77, 78, 81, 84, 05

    this never happened if it it did you would be able to buy the story.

    Back to shocking photographs



    You can't buy history was a jibe at Chelsea supporters.

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    This was shocking to see
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    One that always stands out in my memory, is the haunting picture of an Afghani refugee on the cover of National Geographic in 1985. It was taken in a Pakistani refugee camp. In 2002 the photographer returned to the area, and managed to find her again. He story, and a picture of her in 2002, can be found on the link below.

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...irl/index-text
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post
    One that always stands out in my memory, is the haunting picture of an Afghani refugee on the cover of National Geographic in 1985. It was taken in a Pakistani refugee camp. In 2002 the photographer returned to the area, and managed to find her again. He story, and a picture of her in 2002, can be found on the link below.

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...irl/index-text


    Isn't aging cruel...

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    Not all shocking but a lot of the above and more great photos here http://myif.cc/7KW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post


    Isn't aging cruel...
    It is, but in her case it's life that has been cruel. In the later picture she's estimated to be between 28 - 30. How many in our culture look like that at her age?

    From the article @ http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...irl/index-text

    "Time and hardship have erased her youth. Her skin looks like leather. The geometry of her jaw has softened. The eyes still glare; that has not softened. "She's had a hard life," said McCurry. "So many here share her story." Consider the numbers. Twenty-three years of war, 1.5 million killed, 3.5 million refugees: This is the story of Afghanistan in the past quarter century."

    The sad thing is, life in Afghanistan hasn't improved for her. When in 2002 she was asked if she ever felt safe, she responded "No. But life under the Taliban was better. At least there was peace and order."

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    First time I saw this I thought it must be photoshopped as the people look so laid back in it.



    The story behind the photo.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/c...911_photo.html
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    I've seen it before, and I don't think they look laid back. Look at the positions of their bodies. They're leaning forward, in an intense conversation with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post
    I've seen it before, and I don't think they look laid back. Look at the positions of their bodies. They're leaning forward, in an intense conversation with each other.
    I can't find the link, but I remember reading one of the men in the photo said they were in an extreme state of shock and they were angry the photo was taken without permission.
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    I have the pull out from one of the daily papers showing photo's of Auschwitz camp at
    the time of liberation.
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  29. Having seen some anti war protesters posters {which i shall not repost here} i can tell you that some pictures do go to far.Nothing wrong with taking pictures to record the horrors of war but to force them down you on the internet when you aren't prepared is going to far.I remember seeing a young girl facedown in the dirt after an American air attack{supposedly} the photographer had taken the photo from her head end down so you could plainly see the hollow skull through the hole in the top of her head & the brain on the floor a few inches away.If the aim of the picture was to shock,it worked.At the time my Daughter was the same age as the dead girl,how could i not have sympathy but i'll never get that picture out of my head.
    I actually remember the news footage of the Vietnamese girl running down the road,it was shown at tea time on the 6 o clock news.How times have changed.I'm sure there's moving footage of the Vietcon prisoner being shot.I'm sure i remember that being shown on the news as well.I was so young but how could i forget it after seeing it happen? How times have changed,i doubt they would show it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling-thunder View Post
    Having seen some anti war protesters posters {which i shall not repost here} i can tell you that some pictures do go to far.Nothing wrong with taking pictures to record the horrors of war but to force them down you on the internet when you aren't prepared is going to far.I remember seeing a young girl facedown in the dirt after an American air attack{supposedly} the photographer had taken the photo from her head end down so you could plainly see the hollow skull through the hole in the top of her head & the brain on the floor a few inches away.If the aim of the picture was to shock,it worked.At the time my Daughter was the same age as the dead girl,how could i not have sympathy but i'll never get that picture out of my head.
    I actually remember the news footage of the Vietnamese girl running down the road,it was shown at tea time on the 6 o clock news.How times have changed.I'm sure there's moving footage of the Vietcon prisoner being shot.I'm sure i remember that being shown on the news as well.I was so young but how could i forget it after seeing it happen? How times have changed,i doubt they would show it now?
    I'm not sure that photo's of the casualties of war should be suppressed. For those who lived during the first half of the last century, the human cost of war was only too apparent. These days we hear of "smart" weapons and "clinical strikes". We see men in uniform on the TV showing tapes of missiles hitting tanks, buildings and bridges, with only the occasional mention of "collateral damage".

    But for those on the receiving end, war is nasty. Really, really nasty. People need to be reminded.
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