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    The Murdering Marine

    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    After reading the reason for the reduction of Blackman's conviction from murder to manslaughter, I find it extremely difficult to make any comparison to the deliberate massacre of 97 British soldiers which was carried out at Le Paradis., by a Nazi SS division...

    Wikipedia Quote:::The Le Paradis massacre was a war crime committed by members of the 14th Company, SS Division Totenkopf, under the command of Hauptsturmführer Fritz Knöchlein. It took place on 27 May 1940, during the Battle of France, at a time when the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) was attempting to retreat through the Pas-de-Calais region during the Battle of Dunkirk.:::97 British troops where lined up at a wall and executed.

    The manslaughter, carried out by loner Blackman, ( who at the time was mentally affected by the war in Afghanistan and the atrocities of the Taliban ) has been judged by the courts, and as they have more details than the average Joe, I put my faith in their decision..

    I am certainly not condoning such an act, but as I wasn't there, I can't possibly put myself in his shoes..and judge ...that's why we fortunately have enquiries and courts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    Are you ill - have you missed your meds?
    Of course there is no comparison to Le Paradis and, if you think that our current opponents would give any quarter to a British prisoner then you are even more deluded than your post makes you appear.
    That notwithstanding you really should be more careful in how you title things - his conviction has been downgraded to manslaughter making your comments potentially libelous.

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    What Marine"A"did was wrong ,anyone who has served in the armed forces knows that . Should his crime be reduced to manslaughter that is for the courts to decide given the evidence. Have the courts made the right decision for me yes they have because IMO it was manslaughter. That is my opinion .
    Only someone who has served and been on "operations"will know the pressure both physically AND mentally a soldier is under.
    Those pressures can have a effect on the decision making process. And again IMO that is why soldier "A"did what he did.
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    "At a hearing in February the judges were urged to overturn Blackman's "unsafe" murder conviction on the basis of "uncontradicted" evidence from three psychiatrists that he was suffering from a mental illness - an adjustment disorder - at the time of the killing.

    They heard that at the time of the 2011 incident, he was serving with Plymouth-based 42 Commando in Helmand province in "ghastly" conditions which were a "breeding ground" for mental health problems"


    Unlike the perfectly cold planned sane
    Jordanian soldier who executed 7 unarmed schoolchildren has now been released
    after serving 20 years?





    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-jo...-idUSKBN16J00F
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    Presumably you have better information and knowledge than the judges and the psychiatrists who gave evidence, I find your comparison with Le Paradis odious to say the least.

    The concept that this then leaves British troops open to killing of prisoners in conflict is very way off beam, the Islamist jihadists are not known for fair treatment of anyone, civilian or military, unfortunate enough to fall into their murderous hands.

    We weren't there, we have little or no concept of the stress and strain this man was under or of his mental state at that moment, we expect our troops to face every sort of attack, yet remain at all times totally stable and show no reaction, I would feel that in fighting a fanatical and often suicidal enemy, there is a great temptation to make sure that a fallen enemy will not take another life.

    If you wish to make WW2 comparisons, think about the war against the Japanese, at that time a wounded Japanese was far more likely to take his own life along with anyone else around, than surrender and be treated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    The Taliban and IS don't follow the Geneva Convention and they don't deserve to be taken as prisoners of war when they are chopping heads and limbs off or burning people alive. I have no sympathy at all and Sgt Blackman should be given a medal for putting his life on the line fighting the Taliban. It isn't going to make civilised countries think their soldiers are at risk from our military, as everyone knows we are dealing with barbaric people who commit unthinkable atrocities against anyone who doesn't believe in their twisted ideology. I think most sane people want this lot eradicated from the face of the Earth. You don't see what they all do on TV, I saw so many horrific images of young children with their heads chopped off and a naked teenage girl lying across a table with her throat slit and the blood dripping into a bucket - so the more of these evil people that are killed the better as far as I am concerned. (These horrific images came up after I searched for a news story a couple of years ago).

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    They shouldn't be fitting the troops up with cameras, if it hadn't been for the camera nobody would have been the any wiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    They shouldn't be fitting the troops up with cameras, if it hadn't been for the camera nobody would have been the any wiser.
    Fair comment but, cams on operations can be very useful also .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    Are you really serious? I have recently had the displeasure of watching an ISIS ambush on Syrian Troops {fellow Muslims} where they killed everyone. Several soldiers holding their hands up were repeatedly shot. They were the lucky ones. Imagine having your head sawn off. Given a chance these Animals would do that to our troops.
    Alls well taking Prisoners but this scum keep fighting until wounded at which point they know they will be cared for by our Medical teams so they surrender.
    Do you know if the fighting had ceased at that point? If not they would have left an enemy combatant behind their lines if they had moved forwards. I don't agree with killing a wounded enemy but I wasn't there.
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants, they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Alexander Blackman, AKA Marine A, has today had his murder conviction reduced to manslaughter. What we have to remember is that he shot dead in cold blood a wounded prisoner, and we have to ask how his actions differ from those of SS troops at Le Paradis in 1940.

    We also have to realise that by this decision today, we have given the green light to the killing of British prisoners by our opponents in any current or future conflict.
    i would love to see you serving alongside our troops in these life and death situations alongside these troops in mind blowing pressure cooker situations, you would probably further wet your nappy and discharge your weapon at everyone around, the injured guy would have died a terrible agonising death and was put out of his misery...direct your anger toward the twisted islam nutters instead and not our brave unpraised troops, if you love these isis guys so much go help them out in mosul

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    It's hard to imagine the conditions are soldiers faced in that hell hole but to see the body parts of your comrades hanging from the trees is enough to tip anybody over the edge!!! I hope Sgt. Blackman is released from prison a,s.a.p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrtle View Post
    It's hard to imagine the conditions are soldiers faced in that hell hole but to see the body parts of your comrades hanging from the trees is enough to tip anybody over the edge!!! I hope Sgt. Blackman is released from prison a,s.a.p.
    So true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    So true....

    Just to play the devil's' advocate.

    What if you've seen your brothers guts spread all over the street?

    Accept it, oh it's just the allies. Or go with your feelings?

    I'm not saying the soldier is wrong, man I've been in situations where I would rather kill, but it doesn't excuse it either way.

    Either we're Great Britain or we're not.
    'Non Acceptum Crappum.'
    Lead me not into temptation. I can find the way myself.
    I wish I was a schwa. They're never stressed.

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