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The cost of policing Fracking sites in Lancashire.
………... Government expected Lancashire to pay for the first £2.6m. He said he would raise the issue with ministers and the local MP.
Nearly four years ago, Sussex Police faced a bill of £3.398m for two-month long operations at protests outside another Cuadrilla site at Balcombe. The Home Office contributed £905,000 towards the cost."
https://drillordrop.com/2017/04/04/n...fracking-site/
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Vivian Westwood was there today,,,why.
Devil in disguise,
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What I find hypocritical about this whole thing is that I thought governments (both local and national) were supposed to be committed to renewable energy, but instead they are using public funds to protect those who wish to do the exact opposite.
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Originally Posted by Lamparilla
What I find hypocritical about this whole thing is that I thought governments (both local and national) were supposed to be committed to renewable energy, but instead they are using public funds to protect those who wish to do the exact opposite.
No.
They are using Public Funds to protect their friends - Big Business ond Donors!
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Originally Posted by whiplash
Vivian Westwood was there today,,,why.
Free publicity.
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They need to use stun guns on the crusties and nimbys; it'd cost a lot less. We need fracking. The industrial revolution would never have happened if we'd listened to buffoons like these.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
No.
They are using Public Funds to protect their friends - Big Business ond Donors!
No they are using public money to uphold the law.
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Originally Posted by dav
They need to use stun guns on the crusties and nimbys; it'd cost a lot less. We need fracking. The industrial revolution would never have happened if we'd listened to buffoons like these.
We don't need Fracking, its not requied a few miles away off Ainsdale or Morcambe Bay but is a way of extracting even more to make even more for Big Foreign Businesses.
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Originally Posted by Lamparilla
What I find hypocritical about this whole thing is that I thought governments (both local and national) were supposed to be committed to renewable energy, but instead they are using public funds to protect those who wish to do the exact opposite.
Natural gas, regardless of how it's extracted, is a nonrenewable fossil fuel.
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Fracking? The state of the USA claims that the revenue from Fracking will be far higher than that received from their oil wells and that the amount of oil and gas that is underground will mean that they will not have to import any of these energy sources. The USA is the World's largest consumer of oil.
In Europe, there is nowhere near as much open land as there is in the States - but the number of complaints of contaminated water in the USA is a very large one. In Southport, our water supplies are from the River Douglas and ground water. (Several of our visitors from other UK areas have commented on how good our water supply is compared to other areas.) Our ground water levels are high. Much of Southport is built over Sandstone/ Mudstone which is a softer form of rock than say, granite, and is far more permeable. Below this lies carboniferous coal layers.
Fracking now concerns not only vertical drilling but also horizontal drilling branching off from the main well. Also if one area proved to be profitable, there would be several hundreds of these fracking operations right across the country - it is easy to see that our water supply, in particular, would be at a great risk of chemical contamination. Albeit in tiny percentages - but percentages that add up.
Scotland, Ireland and Wales have placed a temporary hold on Fracking - England is the only country in the UK to be going ahead. Fracking companies in Poland and Romania had to pull out because the output was not sufficiently profitable.
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Originally Posted by said
In Southport, our water supplies are from the River Douglas and ground water..
Best let United Utilities know that, and that their website is wrong, they say its from the River Dee :-)
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Originally Posted by seivad
Natural gas, regardless of how it's extracted, is a nonrenewable fossil fuel.
Yes, that was my point! I think you may have misread my post.
Why are the government allowing these companies to extract non-renewable gas when they are supposedly committed to green energy?
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Originally Posted by Alikado
We don't need Fracking, its not requied a few miles away off Ainsdale or Morcambe Bay but is a way of extracting even more to make even more for Big Foreign Businesses.
Fracking has to take place in the areas where the reserves are; just like coal mining in earlier generations. It is in the national interest. Local preferences cannot be allowed to hold the whole country back. It's the job of the national government to ensure that our natural reserves are effectively managed and used. Over-riding nimby protests is a duty.
No doubt you'd prefer to live in a cave, without heating or electricity, playing on your blackboard with chalk during daylight hours rather than using a gadget to access the internet. You could rig up one of those capricious wind turbines, of course, but as can be seen any day from the train journey into Liverpool - from windy to still - most of them don't turn when you want them to. They aren't the answer. For over a month this year, onshore wind power produced 0% of the electricity total. We need a mixture of reliable energy sources and fracking is part of that; as is nuclear.
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Originally Posted by Lamparilla
Yes, that was my point! I think you may have misread my post.
Why are the government allowing these companies to extract non-renewable gas when they are supposedly committed to green energy?
Probably because wind turbines, nuclear power, solar panels etc don't make gas. So it doesn't matter how much electricity we can produce Unless we rip out everyone's combi boiler we still need to collect gas from somewhere. At least in the sort to medium term. I don't know anyone that doesn't have gas powered heating in their home.
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Originally Posted by Ceam
Probably because wind turbines, nuclear power, solar panels etc don't make gas. So it doesn't matter how much electricity we can produce Unless we rip out everyone's combi boiler we still need to collect gas from somewhere. At least in the sort to medium term. I don't know anyone that doesn't have gas powered heating in their home.
Other forms of heating are available, solar - similar to solar power and Ground Source.
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