Theresa the Appeaser.

[Hamble]

It may not be a problem, but I’m sure plenty of political mischief could be made from his appointment.

He would be Britain’s first Roman Catholic PM. Not one of your low-profile RCs either, but one who has stated on TV that he takes his “Ecclesiatical and Moral guidance” from the Vatican. He will be advising the Head of the Church of England on matters of state from that perspective, which in itself is questionable.

He will, by law, be prevented from advising the Queen on senior clerical appointments, which begs the question as to which politician sufficiently removed from his influence will replace him in this role.




That’s before you start on the DUP and a significant percentage of the Scots.

Interesting point I had not considered from the religious point of view
thank you.
I shall read more along those lines.

[Hamble]

Surely everyone knows that should a prime minister resign/become "unavailable"/die, the next leader will be chosen from the party currently in power.

However, If the DUP withdraws its support for The Dancing Queen... that might be a different story.

Personally, I would miss her. The Maybot's dance moves have been a great source of amusement!

Torysmuststayinpower.

The DUP would like Mogg as a leader a lot less then if he is Catholic?

Sajid Javid(I think) is still the favourite Tory for PM.
An atheist married to a Christian.
He ticks all the boxes apart from Brexit eloquence.

[Hamble]

Personally, I would miss her. The Maybot's dance moves have been a great source of amusement!

I rather think a lot of people would enjoy politician's dancing now under Canadian Law

[silver fox]

Torysmuststayinpower.

The DUP would like Mogg as a leader a lot less then if he is Catholic?

Sajid Javid(I think) is still the favourite Tory for PM.
An atheist married to a Christian.
He ticks all the boxes apart from Brexit eloquence.

Disagree totally with your first line, the rest irrelevant.

This current government must be stopped before they complete the destruction of this country, came very close pre-Blair, doing exactly the same this time around.

Of course this time hiding behind austerity to carry you their destruction.

[justbecause]

Disagree totally with your first line, the rest irrelevant.

This current government must be stopped before they complete the destruction of this country, came very close pre-Blair, doing exactly the same this time around.

Of course this time hiding behind austerity to carry you their destruction.

And exactly how are the Tories destroying this Country, facts please, not just your personal viewpoint.

[Hamble]

Disagree totally with your first line, the rest irrelevant.

This current government must be stopped before they complete the destruction of this country, came very close pre-Blair, doing exactly the same this time around.

Of course this time hiding behind austerity to carry you their destruction.

I do not know of any Conservative Government that has EVER destroyed
this or any other Country.

I could give you a long list of Labour incubated Socialist and one Fascist Dictatorship though.

[silver fox]

And exactly how are the Tories destroying this Country, facts please, not just your personal viewpoint.

Our economy is in it's worse state ever, this has already been widely reported, essential services once again underfunded and creaking, Tory concept of financial acumen is to simply not pay the bills, this can only last so long before systems fail and the costs of repairing the damage far outweighs the alleged savings.

This isn't something new for Tory governments, not by a long way.

[silver fox]

I do not know of any Conservative Government that has EVER destroyed
this or any other Country.

I could give you a long list of Labour incubated Socialist and one Fascist Dictatorship though.

Blair was not always right when in government and his activities since are far from exemplary, but no-one can deny that our schools and hospitals were literally falling apart, that all social services were underfunded and suffering neglect.

Remember I am discussing this country, not some tin pot dictatorship masquerading as a left wing government.

You also know very well that I am not some communist or even total Socialist, I feel that essential services should never be handed to the private sector, to be used as a taxpayer funded cash cow.

For me the things we need should be state run, private sector should run the things we want.

[Hamble]

Blair was not always right when in government and his activities since are far from exemplary, but no-one can deny that our schools and hospitals were literally falling apart, that all social services were underfunded and suffering neglect.

Remember I am discussing this country, not some tin pot dictatorship masquerading as a left wing government.

You also know very well that I am not some communist or even total Socialist, I feel that essential services should never be handed to the private sector, to be used as a taxpayer funded cash cow.

For me the things we need should be state run, private sector should run the things we want.

I don't know how a system can be in place that is so cut and dried between 'need' and 'want'.

In practice what usually happens to State services is they are rationed or halted due to overdemand abuse of or considered a luxury economically.

[silver fox]

I don't know how a system can be in place that is so cut and dried between 'need' and 'want'.

In practice what usually happens to State services is they are rationed or halted due to overdemand abuse of or considered a luxury economically.

Rationed or halted due to underfunding.

[Albion102]

I take it that's a pop at the DUP. They're one of the few sensible groups involved in this process. Think how bad May would be stitching us up if she didn't have the DUP throwing their weight about a bit. Arlene seems to have more balls than most of the so-called Tory brexiteer rebels.

Not exclusively, I include a significant element of the nationalist population of NI as well.

[Hamble]

Rationed or halted due to underfunding.

Rationed and withdrawn on the nhs.

Spending during the NHS's first year vastly overshot the budget, and the prime minister, Clement Attlee, went on the radio to plead with people not to overburden the service.

The vast expense of the enterprise brought Bevan's ministerial career to a premature end. In 1951, the new Labour chancellor, Hugh Gaitskell, insisted on prescription charges, breaching Bevan's principle that care must be free.

Sixty years ago, prescriptions were free. Today they cost £7.10.

The Labour Party introduced charges for NHS dental services and glasses in 1951.

[silver fox]

Rationed and withdrawn on the nhs.

Spending during the NHS's first year vastly overshot the budget, and the prime minister, Clement Attlee, went on the radio to plead with people not to overburden the service.

The vast expense of the enterprise brought Bevan's ministerial career to a premature end. In 1951, the new Labour chancellor, Hugh Gaitskell, insisted on prescription charges, breaching Bevan's principle that care must be free.

Sixty years ago, prescriptions were free. Today they cost £7.10.

The Labour Party introduced charges for NHS dental services and glasses in 1951.

Without the Labour Party there wouldn't be an NHS of any description, too many Tories would love to get rid of it, but daren't say so publicly, they go instead for death by a thousand cuts.

For those in need, prescription charges, dental charges and glasses can still be free, a small price to pay for knowing that everyone can expect treatment whatever their income, rather than pay up or die.

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Torysmuststayinpower.

The DUP would like Mogg as a leader a lot less then if he is Catholic?

Sajid Javid(I think) is still the favourite Tory for PM.
An atheist married to a Christian.
He ticks all the boxes apart from Brexit eloquence.

I distrust Sajid Javid immensely. He supported the Gulf Wars and the UK's part in them, he is a Thatcherite, he idolises the philosophical system of Objectivism which promotes a focus of self satisfaction and self happiness as a priority, he is a second generation immigrant, meaning he has less knowledge of the British people than a traditional British person, his first allegiance is to Israel and the Jewish community, he has used his position to favour certain overseas people. He opposed Brexit and his view is that we should remain with the EU. Definitely not the best potential for a Prime Minister!

[said]

Without the Labour Party there wouldn't be an NHS of any description, too many Tories would love to get rid of it, but daren't say so publicly, they go instead for death by a thousand cuts.

For those in need, prescription charges, dental charges and glasses can still be free, a small price to pay for knowing that everyone can expect treatment whatever their income, rather than pay up or die.

I remember my Grandad, a staunch Conservative telling me many years ago that the only sad thing about the Party was that they wanted to do away with the Health Service. But it is not just the Conservatives - Blair introduced privatisation within the NHS, and subsequent Labour people have just gone along with it, they have not sought to change that. In addition to that - the NHS has been abused by overseas people taking advantage of our 'free' healthcare. This should never have been allowed since it is British tax payers who actually pay for that service, who are now made to wait in long queues to access it. The problem is now that there are so many people in the country who refuse to pay for this care who have now put the system in a very tenuous position. Many EU immigrants have come to the UK simply because they needed constant medical attention and did not want to pay for it. Private health care is necessary in order to alleviate the pressure on the NHS.