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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
Talking about HUNTS the smiling clown in charge of the NHS is a 48% owner of an educational website which is being sold, he stands to pocket between £14.5 Million and £16 Million. Now to say that the already richest member of the Tory Cabinet has a grasp of things in the REAL WORLD is an insult I know the two faced weasel has admitted taking his kids to A&E rather than wait for a GP appointment but this is the trouble most ORDINARY people have with the Tory Party they are clueless as to how their policies affect normal people , the sooner they realise we aren't ALL £millionaires we might get somewhere.
Mr Hunt knows something you do not ....Hospital Trusts get paid for seeing Gp's patients.
Why do you think Casualty's do not turn away the business?
I am glad to hear Mr Hunt does not get preferential treatment from his Gp.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
How dare you insult weasels, useless Hunt is very much part of the problem, we know his allegiance is to the private medical companies who directly funded his office prior to his Cabinet position, we know that he was previously very anti-NHS,got to be one of the worst possible ministers for health, but of course ideal from the Tory point of view.
Can you Post a link to your claim that Hunt was funded into office by private medical company sf ?
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Can you Post a link to your claim that Hunt was funded into office by private medical company sf ?
Before he became a minister his main funders were private medical companies, he was anything but a friend and supporter of the NHS, have a search for yourself and stop being a pretend Tory, expecting everyone else to do the work for you.
Incidentally I notice (BBC News this evening) another level of creeping bureaucracy from private companies getting into the NHS, these referral companies who are now scrutinising GP's referrals to specialists, mainly done by admin people rather than medical people, just another rip off and delaying tactic, to date the opinion is that once again these referrals are merely a delaying tactic, not even a cost saving measure, indeed some medical specialists believe that this tactic will actually increase costs overall and reduce the service.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Before he became a minister his main funders were private medical companies, he was anything but a friend and supporter of the NHS, have a search for yourself and stop being a pretend Tory, expecting everyone else to do the work for you.
Incidentally I notice (BBC News this evening) another level of creeping bureaucracy from private companies getting into the NHS, these referral companies who are now scrutinising GP's referrals to specialists, mainly done by admin people rather than medical people, just another rip off and delaying tactic, to date the opinion is that once again these referrals are merely a delaying tactic, not even a cost saving measure, indeed some medical specialists believe that this tactic will actually increase costs overall and reduce the service.
I have searched and can not find any evidence of your claim.
Let me know when you find a link that I can use to protest against
Hunts total unsuitability for the job he is in.
I hope you are not into this new craze of false news spreading sf?
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Originally Posted by silver fox
UKIP aren't a model I would follow for a tea party, certainly NOT a political party.
--- UKIP built purely on lies and deceit, ----
Could you be more specific please?
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Originally Posted by Hamble
I have searched and can not find any evidence of your claim.
Let me know when you find a link that I can use to protest against
Hunts total unsuitability for the job he is in.
I hope you are not into this new craze of false news spreading sf?
You haven't searched very hard, had a quick search myself, must admit even taking into account my very low opinion of Tories, Jeremy Hunt has had his fingers in more dubious pies than Sweeny Todd, don't know how he survived the fracas over Murdoch's failed bid to take over BSkyB, just to refresh memories the phone hacking scandal shot Murdoch down, just at the time when Hunt was happily nodding the takeover through, improper contact between him and News Corp was shown, but Adam Smith was offered up as the sacrificial lamb with Hunt denying all knowledge, it was later shown that in fact Hunt had been in direct contact with Murdoch during the takeover bid.
As regards funding, look up Andrew Law, the chairman of Caxton Associates who has donated to the Tory Party and directly to the office of Jeremy Hunt, the latest known donation being £217,000 in march 2012, this surprise, surprise at the precise time that Hunt later admitted lobbying the NHS to hand over control of 7 hospitals to Virgin Health, how the hell this guy stays in his position is totally beyond me.
Have always felt this guy to be a devious scumbag, am frankly shocked at how big a scumbag he is.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
You haven't searched very hard, had a quick search myself, must admit even taking into account my very low opinion of Tories, Jeremy Hunt has had his fingers in more dubious pies than Sweeny Todd, don't know how he survived the fracas over Murdoch's failed bid to take over BSkyB, just to refresh memories the phone hacking scandal shot Murdoch down, just at the time when Hunt was happily nodding the takeover through, improper contact between him and News Corp was shown, but Adam Smith was offered up as the sacrificial lamb with Hunt denying all knowledge, it was later shown that in fact Hunt had been in direct contact with Murdoch during the takeover bid.
As regards funding, look up Andrew Law, the chairman of Caxton Associates who has donated to the Tory Party and directly to the office of Jeremy Hunt, the latest known donation being £217,000 in march 2012, this surprise, surprise at the precise time that Hunt later admitted lobbying the NHS to hand over control of 7 hospitals to Virgin Health, how the hell this guy stays in his position is totally beyond me.
Have always felt this guy to be a devious scumbag, am frankly shocked at how big a scumbag he is.
Where is the linky?
Your account is not enough to convict any scumbag.
Theresa May is going to laugh at me if I complain Hunt as well as being the most useless worst Health Minister EVER was bank rolled into his job to the tune of £217,000.
I mean I am sure Theresa May would bring up that the unions have given Labour £35 million – including £12.8 million from Unite alone."
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Where is the linky?
Your account is not enough to convict any scumbag.
Theresa May is going to laugh at me if I complain Hunt as well as being the most useless worst Health Minister EVER was bank rolled into his job to the tune of £217,000.
I mean I am sure Theresa May would bring up that the unions have given Labour £35 million – including £12.8 million from Unite alone."
Behave, the figure was just the last recorded figure, the significance is not the sum but the timing, why the hell shouldn't the unions donate to the Labour party? the Labour party and the Trades Unions have links going back to the formation of both, without Trade Union funding it would only be the wealthy, privileged few running the government, for the benefit of the wealthy, privileged few.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...YXyyvagkui9zaA
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...XsLmziMhW9LW9A
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...ZyxHEbqG0AdFyw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...Sit_0XXe3YsG8w
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...dT1OsJibQrsBvg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...VGPL2aFyHav7sg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...f_ADAX8hWPOOZA
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...EzjW5i-OrpLr3w
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...JDpTnAhQNoHzpQ
You wanted links, be my guest, if you don't like those there are plenty more, bear in mind that many have been removed under "data protection" still leaves plenty, incidentally the last link is Hunt denying, in Parliament, any improper contact with News Corp, that contact was later proved during the Leveson inquiry.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Where is the linky?
Your account is not enough to convict any scumbag.
Theresa May is going to laugh at me if I complain Hunt as well as being the most useless worst Health Minister EVER was bank rolled into his job to the tune of £217,000.
I mean I am sure Theresa May would bring up that the unions have given Labour £35 million – including £12.8 million from Unite alone."
How devious of Unions to give workers the choice of either paying the Political levy with their subs or not paying the Political levy. Unfortunately the poor sods who get so desperate they have to use WONGA to make ends meet have no say about how much of their grossly obscene interest is going to the Tory party.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Behave, the figure was just the last recorded figure, the significance is not the sum but the timing, why the hell shouldn't the unions donate to the Labour party? the Labour party and the Trades Unions have links going back to the formation of both, without Trade Union funding it would only be the wealthy, privileged few running the government, for the benefit of the wealthy, privileged few.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...YXyyvagkui9zaA
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...XsLmziMhW9LW9A
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...ZyxHEbqG0AdFyw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...Sit_0XXe3YsG8w
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...dT1OsJibQrsBvg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...VGPL2aFyHav7sg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...f_ADAX8hWPOOZA
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...EzjW5i-OrpLr3w
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...44224172,d.ZGg
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...JDpTnAhQNoHzpQ
You wanted links, be my guest, if you don't like those there are plenty more, bear in mind that many have been removed under "data protection" still leaves plenty, incidentally the last link is Hunt denying, in Parliament, any improper contact with News Corp, that contact was later proved during the Leveson inquiry.
I wanted a link to a reputable source backing up your claims that "we know his allegiance is to the private medical companies who directly funded his office prior to his Cabinet position" -
All you have put links to are examples backing up his dastardability.
The nearest sniff not being reliable coming from forum posts.
I am tempted to ask after your link to BskyB if you wish to review your stance on press regulation?
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
How devious of Unions to give workers the choice of either paying the Political levy with their subs or not paying the Political levy. Unfortunately the poor sods who get so desperate they have to use WONGA to make ends meet have no say about how much of their grossly obscene interest is going to the Tory party.
Lets face it, given the choice why would Socialists pay for a Capitalist
Union?
Quote from a source 2012
"The RMT, the union of tube drivers and railway workers, holds shares worth £15.35m in some of the world’s largest banks and multinationals.
It received dividends of £756,000 on its investments last year, an increase from £692,000 the year before, according to the latest union
They include 10,000 shares valued at £237,000 in Anglo American, the world’s biggest platinum miner. Its South African subsidiary Amplats has been rocked by industrial action which has seen fatal clashes with police and 12,000 miners fired for unlawfully striking over wages.
The union also holds shares worth £279,000 in Compass Group, the catering and cleaning giant. Its subsidiary has been hit by strike action over pay by cleaners in the Unite union. The RMT is not the only union to invest in the stock market. Unite, Britain’s biggest union and a major donor to the Labour party, holds £33.4m of shares, generating dividends last year of just over £1m. It does not declare which companies it invests in.
An RMT spokesman said: “RMT has an investment team that makes sure our members funds are looked after and don't get eaten away by inflation. If any trade union from any country in the world asks us to disinvest in a company we do so.”
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Lets face it, given the choice why would Socialists pay for a Capitalist
Union?
Quote from a source 2012
"The RMT, the union of tube drivers and railway workers, holds shares worth £15.35m in some of the world’s largest banks and multinationals.
It received dividends of £756,000 on its investments last year, an increase from £692,000 the year before, according to the latest union
They include 10,000 shares valued at £237,000 in Anglo American, the world’s biggest platinum miner. Its South African subsidiary Amplats has been rocked by industrial action which has seen fatal clashes with police and 12,000 miners fired for unlawfully striking over wages.
The union also holds shares worth £279,000 in Compass Group, the catering and cleaning giant. Its subsidiary has been hit by strike action over pay by cleaners in the Unite union. The RMT is not the only union to invest in the stock market. Unite, Britain’s biggest union and a major donor to the Labour party, holds £33.4m of shares, generating dividends last year of just over £1m. It does not declare which companies it invests in.
An RMT spokesman said: “RMT has an investment team that makes sure our members funds are looked after and don't get eaten away by inflation. If any trade union from any country in the world asks us to disinvest in a company we do so.”
Glad to see they are looking after their members! I am still a Union member as I have been since I was old enough to join but I don't nor have I ever paid the political levy. If I wanted to fund a certain political party I would join but none of them at the moment make me want to invest in their progress.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
Glad to see they are looking after their members! I am still a Union member as I have been since I was old enough to join but I don't nor have I ever paid the political levy. If I wanted to fund a certain political party I would join but none of them at the moment make me want to invest in their progress.
I am finding it difficult to get rid of The Labour Party missives since the family wag joined me up to evict Corbyn.
My Local Labour Party persists in sending me tedious missives despite firmly worded replies.
Although I do not belong to The Tory Party I am contemplating joining to be kicked out of Labour.
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