is Southport going to the dogs?!

[Delbertious]

Wtf another double murder! I know Southport has always had a bad drug problem and issues with late night drinking and associated troubles but we now seem to be having and epidemic of murders and rapes! Burglary and theft is on the rise and you can blame the recession for that but all the rest!

[hindy54]

In a word,........YES.!!!

[cheekyche]

Go to any town village and you will find very much the same

[steftabron]

Wtf another double murder! I know Southport has always had a bad drug problem and issues with late night drinking and associated troubles but we now seem to be having and epidemic of murders and rapes! Burglary and theft is on the rise and you can blame the recession for that but all the rest!

it will obv. have to do with the current economic climate as you suggested Del, but this may lead to 'bungled' (quote The Echo) burglaries/muggings, which may lead to deaths - intended or otherwise.

rapes, well, have no 'suggestions' on that, other than the carousing of peeps at night and where they choose to hang out.

Whatever the case, devastating & appalling.

[pedoja]

Wtf another double murder! I know Southport has always had a bad drug problem and issues with late night drinking and associated troubles but we now seem to be having and epidemic of murders and rapes! Burglary and theft is on the rise and you can blame the recession for that but all the rest!

No.

I doubt it is much different to many other places.

It is just that we in Southport have not had so many bad things happen in the space of just a couple of years or so.

I do find it hard to comprehend what motivates people to do such heinous acts.

[over the hill]

Wtf another double murder! I know Southport has always had a bad drug problem and issues with late night drinking and associated troubles but we now seem to be having and epidemic of murders and rapes! Burglary and theft is on the rise and you can blame the recession for that but all the rest!

I think it is wrong to blame the recession for burglary and theft!! Where are peoples morals for goodness sake. I have had some periods of hardtimes and unemployment as have many on here - and I certainly wouldn't dream of robbing someones house etc to get money. Let alone pick on a vunerable person - because they have money and I don't

The big problem with all this is in Southport as you have so rightly put - DRUGS - it is a well known fact that it is a severe problem in this town, more than other areas within Merseyside.

The thing is some people think it is their God given right to have the best of everything no matter what the cost - it has been said on another forum that the person the police have in custody is a local Taxi driver - I have no idea if that is correct but if so that scares me as if it is the chances are the poor lady in Lonsdale Road had been a fare at some point - my mum relies heavily on taxis, is elderly and lives alone!!!!

I know lots of what is being reported is without fact as yet and all will come out eventually - it is just very scary right now. I also wonder if this has anything to do with the burglary on Janes Brook Road on Saturday as the victim there was also an elderly lady

[mick the miller]

Wtf another double murder! I know Southport has always had a bad drug problem and issues with late night drinking and associated troubles but we now seem to be having and epidemic of murders and rapes! Burglary and theft is on the rise and you can blame the recession for that but all the rest!

When so many murders etc are done by members of the family or friends( and I don,t know what the statistics are) unless you suspect that applies to your family I don,t think you should have a lot to worry about.
Stop generalizing.

[Stupot]

When so many murders etc are done by members of the family or friends( and I don,t know what the statistics are) unless you suspect that applies to your family I don,t think you should have a lot to worry about.
Stop generalizing.

But that's exactly what you've done, especially as you "don't know what the statistics are".....

[ands71]

YES is the short answer. Southport is not what it used to be one little bit!!!!

There is a growing underclass of people throughout the country who have no morals whatsoever and think it is ok to rob/kill just so they can have better things (or drugs) without having to earn it. Couple that with the economic and job climate and here we go. Just watch any episode of Jeremy Kyle to confirm it!!!

[chirpy cockney]

...and I don't suppose many of the people murdered by family or friends suspected that it applied to their family or friends prior to being murdered!

[pedoja]

Just watch any episode of Jeremy Kyle to confirm it!!!

You take the Jeremy Kyle show as an indicator?

OMG there is NO HOPE for us now.

[chirpy cockney]

There is a growing underclass of people throughout the country who have no morals whatsoever and think it is ok to rob/kill just so they can have better things (or drugs) without having to earn it. Couple that with the economic and job climate and here we go. Just watch any episode of Jeremy Kyle to confirm it!!!

Better still tune into Yesterday in Parliament if you want to hear people with no morals whatsoever who think it's ok to rob - ok, I don't think many of them have killed - just so they can have better things without having to earn it.

[mick the miller]

But that's exactly what you've done, especially as you "don't know what the statistics are".....

You have a point but I can only go on what I read
The attitude that crime in Southport is running wild I can,t believe.
I bow to your superior knowledge though, I think I have not lived in Southport as long as you

[Delbertious]

When so many murders etc are done by members of the family or friends( and I don,t know what the statistics are) unless you suspect that applies to your family I don,t think you should have a lot to worry about.
Stop generalizing.

What a pile off rubbish you have just typed!

[Nomad]

Better still tune into Yesterday in Parliament if you want to hear people with no morals whatsoever who think it's ok to rob - ok, I don't think many of them have killed - just so they can have better things without having to earn it.

They haven't killed directly, no. But what responsibility do they bear when lives are lost following policy decisions that lead to reductions in NHS frontline services or the availability of personal body armour for frontline troops?

[chirpy cockney]

That is a very good point Nomad. I would say they bear a hell of a lot of responsibility.

[mick the miller]

What a pile off rubbish you have just typed!

Tell me why,I will listen , Pull me to pieces if you like.
If I think you are right I will say so ,no worries.
I am not perfect.

[jaygirl]

They haven't killed directly, no. But what responsibility do they bear when lives are lost following policy decisions that lead to reductions in NHS frontline services or the availability of personal body armour for frontline troops?

I was just about to post similar, they have got blood on their hands.

[jaygirl]

YES is the short answer. Southport is not what it used to be one little bit!!!!

The whole country isn't ,or indeed, many countries around the world aren't. (what they used to be).

[over the hill]

Fired an email off to Merseyside Police to ask how they were going to
reassure the people of Southport in light of the recent heinous crimes, their response is copied below:-
(I have removed my name and email address from it though)

Dear Mrs

many thanks for the email to the Force today, it is important for us to
know how members of the community are feeling, especially when tragic
events such as these take place.

The Area Commander for Southport Chief Superintendent Nicola Holland is
currently giving a press conference in relation to these matters and this
will be widely reported on the TV, radio and newspapers.

As you can imagine a full investigation has commenced, additional police
officers will be patrolling in and around your area and a person is
currently in police custody in relation to these incidents.

I would wish to reassure you and your neighbours that we are committed to
bringing those responsible to justice and also enabling all who live and
work in the area to feel safe and secure.

I hope this email responds adequately to your concerns, please feel free to
contact me if I can be of any further assistance at this time

[Stupot]

The whole country isn't ,or indeed, many countries around the world aren't. (what they used to be).

But overall Southport is still a pretty good place to live...

[zooma]

It's not just Southport going to the dogs. The whole of the UK going is going to the dogs. "Great Britain" as a country is sinking like the Titanic.

[pigeonboi]

No.
Southport is still a good safe place to live. Are you all going to move out the area because there was a double murder and within 24 hours police have a guy in custody? No you're not, It's all alot of hysteria that 99% of you will have forgotten next week.
Syria is going to the dogs. The Gaza strip is going to the dogs. places were thousands of people are dying needlessly every week so they can have basic human rights.
A couple of scared people does not constitute a town going to the dogs. There are far worse places to live in the UK.

[greenmachine]

Its getting as bad as that Midsomer place, we need Inspector Barnaby to sort it out.

[steftabron]

I was just about to post similar, they have got blood on their hands.

reminds me of macbeth

[steftabron]

You take the Jeremy Kyle show as an indicator?

OMG there is NO HOPE for us now.

[Stupot]

Its getting as bad as that Midsomer place, we need Inspector Barnaby to sort it out.

John Nettles, on an island just nine miles by five miles, had a very busy time in Jersey too as Bergerac...

[Nomad]

No.
Southport is still a good safe place to live. Are you all going to move out the area because there was a double murder and within 24 hours police have a guy in custody? No you're not, It's all alot of hysteria that 99% of you will have forgotten next week.
Syria is going to the dogs. The Gaza strip is going to the dogs. places were thousands of people are dying needlessly every week so they can have basic human rights.
A couple of scared people does not constitute a town going to the dogs. There are far worse places to live in the UK.

A touch of perspective is always welcome.

[chirpy cockney]

No.
Southport is still a good safe place to live. Are you all going to move out the area because there was a double murder and within 24 hours police have a guy in custody? No you're not, It's all alot of hysteria that 99% of you will have forgotten next week.
Syria is going to the dogs. The Gaza strip is going to the dogs. places were thousands of people are dying needlessly every week so they can have basic human rights.
A couple of scared people does not constitute a town going to the dogs. There are far worse places to live in the UK.

Bloody brilliant!

[Topsy42]

have a look at the last post on the news thread?