TAX CUT FOR MILLIONS NOT FOR MILLIONAIRES: ‘NO TAX FOR FIRST £10,000 OF INCOME

Lib Dems petition Chancellor to scrap income tax for low earners

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Lib Dem national party president, Tim Farron, has called on the Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne, to raise the lower threshold for income tax to £10,000 in next month’s budget in the latest of the Liberal Democrats efforts to rebalance the tax system to benefit the millions of people of low and middle incomes, instead of the few wealthy millionaires.



The Liberal Democrats are pushing for an announcement to be made in Osborne’s third budget on 21st March. This would result in a tax cut of up to £700 a year for millions of people across the UK. This measure would also lift approximately 3 million people out of tax all together.

Southport.gb readers who want the very richest to bear a bigger share of the burden of getting Britain back on the right track can sign the petition here:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/28640

As well as reducing the tax burden of those least able to pay, the Liberal Democrats have been working to force the richest and most well off to pay their fair share. They've done this by stopping inheritance tax cuts for millionaires, increasing Capital Gains Tax, increasing taxes on the banks by an extra £2.5bn every year and maintaining the 50p tax rate for the most well off.

Southport Lib Dem Tony Dawson said: “In this time of national economic hardship, the Government really needs to do all it can to support the average earner. Raising the tax threshold would be incredibly beneficial in Southport. "

“Although our unemployment levels here are not as bad as in some surrounding areas, a large proportion of those employed in Southport are living on about the minimum wage."

"Changing the tax threshold would put a great deal back into the pocket of the average Southport worker!”

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The key word is 'worker', but what's the betting benefits will increase instead.

I still think its obscene that the Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne pays so little tax on the millions he has. So much for his "we are all in this together"

Originally Posted by Garage-man

I still think its obscene that the Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne pays so little tax on the millions he has. So much for his "we are all in this together"

Aha, but on that one, he is 'all in it together' with Tony Bliar and Peter Mandelson!

Originally Posted by cherie brandie

Aha, but on that one, he is 'all in it together' with Tony Bliar and Peter Mandelson!

Along with multi millionaire Lib Dems Clegg and 7 homes Huhne. Disgraced former Lib Dem Cabinet member Danny Laws earned that much in the City he reckoned to have retired at 28.

Originally Posted by red flag

Disgraced former Lib Dem Cabinet member Danny Laws earned that much in the City he reckoned to have retired at 28

This is a myth. Actually, he did not earn anything like what's been put around - he just decided to do something more productive with his life. And, although Laws did something wrong, he was excused serious punishment by parliament because ALL PARTES accepted that he did what he did knowing that it would cost him money (as it did) to keep his family from knowing he was living with his partner. Hardly like the Labour MPs and Tory peers who ended up in prison over their expenses, was it?

And you can hardly lump Huhne and Clegg in with Mandelson and Blair. In a large chunk of London, virtually anyone who owns a house is a millionaire now, such are property prices. But this Labour pair aren't just rich, they carry coining thousands more every day in the pay of their big banker buddies.

Danny Laws?

Do you mean David Laws?

Nick Cleggs estimated wealth is £1.9 million. Chris Huhne doesn't own one house he has 7. For now! Dependent on his court case. And David Laws was a former M.D for J.P.Morgan, who has 2 homes and a holiday home in Provence.

I think thats comparable with Blair and Mandelson dont you.

Originally Posted by toffee man

I think thats comparable with Blair and Mandelson dont you.

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Bliar is more than ten times richer than any of these. You may call that 'comparable' - I don't. Nobody knows about Mandelson, details of his secret dealings are rarely revealed. The key difference is that the Labour people spent thirteen solid years making he rich-poor divide bigger than Mrs Thatcher ever dreamed of. Whereas the Lib Dems are trying to get poorer earners out of tax and tax richer people across their true earnings.

Have you signed the petition yet?

I've signed nothing. I lost my trust in the Lib Dems when Clegg broke his pledge on tuition fees.

Originally Posted by cherie brandie

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Have you signed the petition yet?

What makes you think that Labour voters are going to support or excuse Blair, Mandelson or any other money grubbing politician of any flavour.

Maybe I'm a little cynical, but this strikes me more that Lib-Dems have just realised that their own supporters aren't best pleased with cow towing and propping up the Tories.

You've got a long way to go before you regain any trust at all from the electorate as a whole, you can spout as much anti-Labour rhetoric as you like, but many many people feel betrayed by the Lib-Dems, how does it go "one swallow does not make a summer", plus of course you have achieved nothing yet, or possibly has nice Mr Camercon given you permission to ask and promised you a "victory", in return for sitting on your hands over the Health Reform Bill.

Personally I think this is a good thing, though I am sure the money will just be taken off us low earners in some other way. The Lib Dems do have a long way to go to rebuild faith in them. I hope they can, but they need to start doing something about it, not just towing the Tory line. Let’s hope this sort of stance is the first of many that will make the government work for the people and not for the wealthy. But I doubt it.

Originally Posted by cherie brandie

Aha, but on that one, he is 'all in it together' with Tony Bliar and Peter Mandelson!

Cherie darling I didn't think even you would have the nerve to support a chancellor of the exchequer who avoids tax of £1.6M that's ONE MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS OWED TO THE COUNTRY EVERY YEAR. Can you choose not to pay tax?
In simple terms even you can understand if Osborne and his super rich cronies, The Arcadia Group, Vodaphone and the like paid tax which is owed we could pay off the national debt and cancel the austerity measures which are crippling everyone who is not super rich AND STILL HAVE A POSITIVE BALANCE.
All in this together? Disgraceful.

Originally Posted by silver fox

What makes you think that Labour voters are going to support or excuse Blair, Mandelson or any other money grubbing politician of any flavour.

Maybe I'm a little cynical, but this strikes me more that Lib-Dems have just realised that their own supporters aren't best pleased with cow towing and propping up the Tories.

You've got a long way to go before you regain any trust at all from the electorate as a whole, you can spout as much anti-Labour rhetoric as you like, but many many people feel betrayed by the Lib-Dems, how does it go "one swallow does not make a summer", plus of course you have achieved nothing yet, or possibly has nice Mr Camercon given you permission to ask and promised you a "victory", in return for sitting on your hands over the Health Reform Bill.

I can honestly say this is probably the first time I have agreed with anything you say silverfox but you are absolutely right here. The Fibdems have, by their own actions, permanently destroyed any form of trust the electorate may have shown them. There has never been a party so blatantly lie about so many different subjects in their manifesto than these conmen. Their leader.......Oh what’s his name has achieved his lifetime’s ambition and has got as close to the post of prime minister that he is ever likely to get again regardless of the cost to his whole party. Hold your heads in shame each and every one of you. And Cherie darling, until now I have supporter the Lib Dems for over forty years so please don’t confuse me with one of those labour supporters you fear so much!

Originally Posted by dconstantinople

...please don’t confuse me with one of those labour supporters you fear so much

Why would anyone fear Labour supporters? They have just landed themselves with an Iain Duncan Smith of a leader and cannot get rid of him till after the next election. Labour are about 20 points below where you'd expect them to be in the opinion polls in the present situation, even if they' been led by Kermit the Frog. That is not to say too much about other party leaders at the moment. And no, I certainly do not support George Osborne. Any pal of Peter Mandelson's is no pal of mine!

Cherie Brandy/CaryS/ Microlight/ Anthony Dawson is quite right at 38% Labour should be doing much better in the polls. Especially with a tory government that's increasing the cap between the rich and poor at a faster rate than ever before.

I wonder what Cherie Brandy/CaryS/Anthony Dawson makes of the Lib Dems showing in the opinion polls? At 10% they are 18% behind Labour, the only certain thing about the next general election is that the Lib Dems are heading for total melt down and possible oblivion.
If Labour have the equivellant of Ian Duncan Smith as leader the Lib Dems or New Tories have the eqivalent of Judas Iscariot.

Originally Posted by cherie brandie

Why would anyone fear Labour supporters? They have just landed themselves with an Iain Duncan Smith of a leader and cannot get rid of him till after the next election. Labour are about 20 points below where you'd expect them to be in the opinion polls in the present situation, even if they' been led by Kermit the Frog. That is not to say too much about other party leaders at the moment. And no, I certainly do not support George Osborne. Any pal of Peter Mandelson's is no pal of mine!

There are Labour supporters who feel the wrong brother got the job.

However I think you would be far better showing concern for your own, circumstances gave the Lib-Dems a golden opportunity to punch above their weight, to show the electorate just what they are about.

Instead we get a total sell out, propping up and supporting the most mercenary, unfair, divisive Tory government since the horror days of Thatcher, make the most of your "coalition", after the next election you will once again be able to move your total MPs in one taxi and hold party meetings in a phone box.

Originally Posted by silver fox

propping up and supporting the most mercenary, unfair, divisive Tory government since the horror days of Thatcher,

No dear, that was Gordon Brown's Tory government, which was only slightly more Tory than Tony Bliar's in terms of deliberatelyincreasing the rich/poor divide. BOTH Middleblands were, of course, totally signed up to that policy. I am sure that there are some Conservatives MPs who would like to outdo the Bliar/Brown efforts at social divisiveness and they must wince at the poor state pensioners being given a rise of £5.20 per week this year, more than they've ever got before.

What none of us can get away from is that year after year of Labour ministers spending money they hadn't got like confetti (remember Prescott's £470 million throw-away on a national fire centre programme that had to be binned), we are all going to be poorer for a number of years. Just not as poor as those poor souls in Greece.

Originally Posted by cherie brandie

we are all going to be poorer for a number of years. Just not as poor as those poor souls in Greece.

Leave the present gang in place for much longer and we will be, you really have a fixation with Labour, what's the problem wouldn't they have you?

At the risk of repeating myself, the Lib-Dems have been handed their best ever opportunity of establishing some credibility and they've screwed up big time.

Welcome to oblivion next time round.

Originally Posted by silver fox

you really have a fixation with Labour,

Well you see, the thing is I don't like really nasty Tories (NB not all Conservatives or people who support them are nasty). But at least the ones who call themselves Conservatives are 'honest' Tories and when you sup with them, you use a long spoon. Whereas, even nastier Tories who camoflage themselves as 'Labour', they really are the pits.

I have quite a lot of criticism to give to the Lib Dem parliamentary leadership myself. Constructive criticism,of course. But, locally, the Lib Dems are streets ahead of the rest put together. And the people of Southport, as shown in the last round of voting, seem fairly supportive.

I suggest that none of us should make silly predictions. A week is a very long time in politics.