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  1. Username2016 says:04/09/2017 02:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by prasnee View Post
    Sorry, but do you not understand what the word "now" means?

    As you seem to have difficulty with it, I'll spell it out really clearly:

    1. The The National Debt was higher at the end of Gordon Brown's Chancellorship compared to the start.
    2. The National Debt was higher in 2010 at the end of Gordon Brown's (brief) period as Prime Minister than at the beginning.
    3. The National Debt was higher at the end of of the Coalition Government in 2015 than at the beginning in 2010.
    4. The National Debt is higher now than at the beginning of the present Conservative Government in 2015


    If you find pictures easier to understand you may find it helpful to refer to those at https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-...national-debt/
    Not as much difficulty as you have in:

    1) answering whether you are a cllr or not and therefore inappropriate to be debating political matters under a pseudonym
    2) accepting the libs were part of the coalition and therefore cannot cherry pick the good things and shirk the bad to the "nasty tories"

    Now, as you're graph shows, national debt has increased since labour including the period the libs were in coalition so it's disingenuous to just state the Tory government with your argument being based on now forgetting the five years of "fame".

    However as I said in my other comment Damien Moore has done what we'd expect him to do,highlight the towns concerns. In my view it wouldn't be hard for him to surpass the lib dem achievements for the town as even a cheerleader like you are unable to reel off lib dem achievements and why the nasty spam filled campaign of the libs could have failed and "let the nasty Tories in"

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  3. prasnee says:04/09/2017 02:36 PM
    Username2016, you post under a pseudonym; I post under a pseudonym. The only difference is I don't keep asking you who you really are.

    So as to avoid accusations of gross hypocrisy on your part, would you kindly tell us all your real name and where you live.

    Thanks

  4. Username2016 says:04/09/2017 02:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by prasnee View Post
    Username2016, you post under a pseudonym; I post under a pseudonym. The only difference is I don't keep asking you who you really are.

    So as to avoid accusations of gross hypocrisy on your part, would you kindly tell us all your real name and where you live.

    Thanks
    I haven't asked your name or address, I have asked whether you are a councillor or not as it's relevant if you are. A councillor is a paid elective so it's relevant if they're posting on local political matters and further demonstrating rosettes are out ahead of the people of the towns interest.

    I am not a councillor and post as an annoyed local at the lack of working together for the town so to your point of gross hypocrisyI'm asking you "are you a councillor" for which I'm answering that I am not, why do you have such an issue in responding to the yes/no question. If you say no, I'm not looking for your name and address as you'd just be another local resident who has a different view to me.

    Thanks

  5. Tentill4 says:04/09/2017 04:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mike1979 View Post
    You are talking sh ite! The tarmac outside Bootle Town Hall (pre Sefton) was red - no more. Bootle lamp posts were painted in the corporation colours of red and cream - no more. Have you been to Bootle lately. Most of the town hall complex is in dire need of investment. There is buddlea growing out of the old museum and Police station walls. The windows are rotted too. I think you need to pipe down.
    Really, pipe down!!!!!
    So pre Sefton (before 1974) the tarmac was red, lamp post painted red and cream etc etc.....Just smacks of Labour mismanagement of their finances even then, but wait, that can't be it can it??? No, it must be someone else's fault.

    I've always remembered Lord Street with red tarmac and so it should stay..

  6. Tentill4 says:04/09/2017 04:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    You should have tried bringing up your family under Thatcher with 15% mortgage rates.

    I don't recall May being elected Prime Minister until the brain dead gave us a lame duck rabble thanks to Northern Irish bigots.
    I remember those days as well :(, but if I remember correctly, the Bank of England never actually reached 15% and the rate dropped a couple of days later.(Can't remember who intervened).

    TM gave Labour a chance with her very badly run election campaign, probably the worst campaign ever seen and yet, she still won the election...

    PS Lord Street tarmac should still be red :)

  7. nosobored says:04/09/2017 04:27 PM
    Its hilarious reading the rantings of the anti democratic Momentum driven loony left labour party,Who in a million years will never get a candidate elected in Southport,never mind win general election even with mass voter fraud and the catalogue of lies that spews out of its leaders mouth..Lord st should be red the people in Bootle are beggars that are massively subsidized by Southport.

  8. mike1979 says:04/09/2017 04:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nosobored View Post
    Its hilarious reading the rantings of the anti democratic Momentum driven loony left labour party,Who in a million years will never get a candidate elected in Southport,never mind win general election even with mass voter fraud and the catalogue of lies that spews out of its leaders mouth..Lord st should be red the people in Bootle are beggars that are massively subsidized by Southport.
    Haha. I think you'll find Bootle generates more income from business rates than the council tax and business rates in Southport combined. Nobody is subsidising Bootle. Most of Sefton's money goes on Southport's high care bill, one of the highest in the country - FACT. Sefton would be better off without Southport. Sadly this will never happen :-(

  9. Seashells&sand says:04/09/2017 05:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mike1979 View Post
    Haha. I think you'll find Bootle generates more income from business rates than the council tax and business rates in Southport combined. Nobody is subsidising Bootle. Most of Sefton's money goes on Southport's high care bill, one of the highest in the country - FACT. Sefton would be better off without Southport. Sadly this will never happen :-(
    Oh please release us!!! If you hate Southport so much, why come on Qlocal Southport?

  10. nosobored says:04/09/2017 05:17 PM
    Really then prove it scounger,as the official figures show southport provides 80% of seftons revenue,But no worry s as its government official policy to remove southport from the parasites in bootle
    Quote Originally Posted by Seashells&sand View Post
    Oh please release us!!! If you hate Southport so much, why come on Qlocal Southport?

  11. Seashells&sand says:04/09/2017 05:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nosobored View Post
    Really then prove it scounger,as the official figures show southport provides 80% of seftons revenue,But no worry s as its government official policy to remove southport from the parasites in bootle
    I agree with you, why have you responded to my quote?

  12. Tentill4 says:04/09/2017 05:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mike1979 View Post
    Most of Sefton's money goes on Southport's high care bill, one of the highest in the country
    As the majority of Care Homes and Nursing Homes in Sefton are located in Southport, then I would agree with you. As for being one of the highest in the country, I've not seen that evidence..

    KEEP the tarmac red in Southport :)

  13. chrismatt. says:04/09/2017 06:17 PM
    Forget the politics and name calling.

    Lord Street has RED tarmac and it should remain RED.

    End of debate!

  14. Mr. Brightside says:04/09/2017 08:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nosobored View Post
    Really then prove it scounger,as the official figures show southport provides 80% of seftons revenue
    Can you provide a link to those figures please?
    But no worry s as its government official policy to remove southport from the parasites in bootle
    Can you provide a link to this government policy please?

  15. mike1979 says:04/09/2017 10:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Seashells&sand View Post
    Oh please release us!!! If you hate Southport so much, why come on Qlocal Southport?
    When and where did I say I hated Southport ? I merely responded to;

    04/09/2017 03:27 PMnosobored
    Its hilarious reading the rantings of the anti democratic Momentum driven loony left labour party,Who in a million years will never get a candidate elected in Southport,never mind win general election even with mass voter fraud and the catalogue of lies that spews out of its leaders mouth..Lord st should be red the people in Bootle are beggars that are massively subsidized by Southport.

  16. mike1979 says:04/09/2017 10:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tentill4 View Post
    As the majority of Care Homes and Nursing Homes in Sefton are located in Southport, then I would agree with you. As for being one of the highest in the country, I've not seen that evidence..

    KEEP the tarmac red in Southport :)
    Adult social care costs the council 86.1 million per year. This is Sefton's biggest bill. Southport was also on national news not so long ago for having one of the highest bills in the country. The council doesn't even collect near that amount in council tax alone per year.



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