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  1. Published on: 19/08/2017 07:40 AMReported by: roving-eye
    Merseyrail passengers will once again have to endure industrial action, as the RMT announces it will stage further strikes on 1, 3 and 4 September.



    This will be the sixth this year, and follows the last day of industrial action on Sunday 24 July, timed to coincide with the last day of The Open golf championship at Royal Birkdale.

    Jan Chaudhry-van der Velde, Merseyrail's managing director, commented:

    ‘The RMT say this dispute is about safety. But a recent industry report (RSSB, Risk associated with train dispatch, July 2017) states that: ‘… there is no additional risk for passengers boarding and alighting *DCO/DOO trains, and indeed that trains without a guard actually appear to lower overall dispatch related safety risk to passengers.’

    The RSSB report corroborates the Office of Rail and Road’s (ORR) position on this matter.
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  3. cotton man says:19/08/2017 08:37 AM
    More whinging and whining from the RMT. They have jobs and according to their employer will continue to have jobs albeit different work. We all have to change that's progress.

    Now I am sure LL will just have to respond. Give us the inside facts please.

  4. Little Londoner says:19/08/2017 12:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cotton man View Post
    More whinging and whining from the RMT. They have jobs and according to their employer will continue to have jobs albeit different work. We all have to change that's progress.

    Now I am sure LL will just have to respond. Give us the inside facts please.
    You seem to know everything about it so my input is pointless especially to someone with the Thatcherite views about Unions. I may as well go and talk to the garden wall it would understand more than a dyed in the wool I'm alright Jack sod everyone else Tory.

  5. gsgsgs says:19/08/2017 12:11 PM
    I find this an odd one, the RMT say it isn't about jobs it's about passenger safety with driver only trains.

    My initial thoughts were to agree, however I've just come back form London traveling on the underground & DLR. The underground is driver only and the DLR is driverless, no on-board staff at all, I felt perfectly safe on both, I also travel regularly on the Manchester Metro again driver only.

    Part of my journey to/from London was Merseyrail to/from Lime Street, on neither leg did I see a guard.

  6. onehorsetown2 says:19/08/2017 02:16 PM
    I travel on Merseyrail every working day and have seen plenty of occasions when Guards have prevented incidents from occurring and only recently a guard was attacked while trying to deal with unruly teenagers in the middle of the day.

    Merseyrail try to make out that there will be staff on the trains but in reality they include cleaners in this, I can't see a cleaner breaking up a fight.

  7. Little Londoner says:19/08/2017 06:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by onehorsetown2 View Post
    I travel on Merseyrail every working day and have seen plenty of occasions when Guards have prevented incidents from occurring and only recently a guard was attacked while trying to deal with unruly teenagers in the middle of the day.

    Merseyrail try to make out that there will be staff on the trains but in reality they include cleaners in this, I can't see a cleaner breaking up a fight.
    Quite true, but the expert Cotton Man obviously thinks it like riding on the Orient Express.

  8. Alikado says:20/08/2017 09:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by gsgsgs View Post
    I find this an odd one, the RMT say it isn't about jobs it's about passenger safety with driver only trains.

    My initial thoughts were to agree, however I've just come back form London traveling on the underground & DLR. The underground is driver only and the DLR is driverless, no on-board staff at all, I felt perfectly safe on both, I also travel regularly on the Manchester Metro again driver only.

    Part of my journey to/from London was Merseyrail to/from Lime Street, on neither leg did I see a guard.
    It is unusual not to see a guard on Merseyrail trains, normally it is only when the trains are too packed for them to move along the train, the Underground and Metros employ platform staff at busy points to get passengers on and off safely, no mention from Merseyrail about doing this.



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