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  1. Published on: 03/08/2018 08:23 AMReported by: roving-eye
    Southport Market is struggling to survive with two thirds of the spaces empty.

    Traders who have left blame high rents for the demise.

    Rents for stalls start at 66 per week. The Market is open for 6 days a week.

    The refurbished market opened in July 2012 with celebrity chef Simon Rimmer on hand.

    Also at the opening were local Councillors who now seem to have no interest in the building.
               

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  3. salus.populi says:03/08/2018 09:01 AM
    High rents from 66 a week?

  4. Ric says:03/08/2018 10:01 AM
    High rents, business rates, bid rates, wages, lack of parking for stall holders and a completely inept management attempting to run what once was a flourishing albeit dated market, a recipe for yet another empty building in the making.

  5. justbecause says:03/08/2018 10:48 AM
    Sefton Council has other priorities....Bootle New Strand.

  6. clive764 says:03/08/2018 11:02 AM
    Yes, I agree with the posting regarding Sefton Council not caring and would much rather keep the New Strand afloat, but the BID should look at market successes such as Bury and Altrincham to see how a thriving facility and attraction is designed and implemented. Altrincham, in particular has a waiting list of traders waiting for spaces to become available.

  7. *concerned* says:03/08/2018 11:17 AM
    Why on earth they allow the open air market on Chapel St I have no idea!

    Surely, it should be in Market St, plenty of room for it, and utilising the empty INDOOR stalls as well

  8. Ceam says:03/08/2018 01:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    High rents from 66 a week?
    I was thinking the same thing. If you can't afford 11 a day for rent then you have nothing worth buying.

    Welcome to the world of business. Where the idea is you make a profit after all your out goings.
    business rates, will be little to nothing. I've not had to pay small business rates for about 9 years. Always been 100% refunded.

  9. justbecause says:03/08/2018 02:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    High rents from 66 a week?
    I would think that 66 is a bribe to get new tenants in. I very much doubt that long established businesses in the Market are benefiting from rents as low as that.

  10. ainsdale local says:03/08/2018 02:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by *concerned* View Post
    Why on earth they allow the open air market on Chapel St I have no idea!

    Surely, it should be in Market St, plenty of room for it, and utilising the empty INDOOR stalls as well
    Exactly. These stalls situated where they are seem to me a real slap in the face for those traders in the market hall trying to establish and maintain their businesses. Surely common sense would suggest that making use of the empty indoor stalls albeit on say daily licence arrangements could potentially increase foot fall for the benefit of everybody in the market. Shame Chapel St was ever pedestrianised in the first place. A mammoth blunder.

  11. salus.populi says:03/08/2018 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    I would think that 66 is a bribe to get new tenants in. I very much doubt that long established businesses in the Market are benefiting from rents as low as that.
    So lets hear what they are then. The term "high rents" is regularly bandied about with no actual figures to back it up. The same gripe is trotted out for town centre shops yet the public inquiry into Sainsbury's opening at Kew revealed that Southport town centre shop rents had been falling year on year and were half what they were a decade earlier.

  12. MargeSimpson says:03/08/2018 03:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    High rents from 66 a week?
    The rents were based on tenders for many years, ie the highest bid got the stall. That started the rot which now seems to have reached the point we have now where seemingly nothing can save it as it is in the wrong location, it is too small and it is run by Sefton Council which has proven countless times previously to be 100% incompetent in every business deal it has ever entered into.

  13. Ceam says:03/08/2018 04:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MargeSimpson View Post
    The rents were based on tenders for many years, ie the highest bid got the stall. That started the rot which now seems to have reached the point we have now where seemingly nothing can save it as it is in the wrong location, it is too small and it is run by Sefton Council which has proven countless times previously to be 100% incompetent in every business deal it has ever entered into.
    Looks tidy enough, It's the stall holders that have to bring he customers in. How can that be blamed on the council.

  14. Alikado says:03/08/2018 07:27 PM
    I was uder the impresson that te market was run by a management company, the refurb was handled by consultants.

  15. clive764 says:03/08/2018 08:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I was uder the impresson that te market was run by a management company, the refurb was handled by consultants.
    No, the Council took it back under their control from the private contractor.

  16. pepsi says:03/08/2018 08:29 PM
    I went to Chorley on Tuesday and both the indoor & outdoor markets were really busy.


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