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  1. Published on: 05/01/2019 10:26 AMReported by: roving-eye
    New and upgraded roads should prioritise pedestrians, cyclists and public transport over motorised vehicles.




    Physical inactivity is responsible for one in six deaths and is believed to cost the UK £7.4 billion each year, including £900 million to the NHS.



    Pedestrians, cyclists and those who use public transport should be given priority when new roads are built or upgraded, NICE has said.

    NICE says planners should develop policies and initiatives to ensure that safe, convenient, inclusive access for pedestrians, cyclists, and people who use public transport is maximised and is prioritised over motorised transports (cars, motorbikes and mopeds, for example).

    The proposal is made in a draft quality standard for encouraging physical activity within the general population - published today (Friday 4 January).

    The aim is to get people to be more active in their day-to-day lives by encouraging safe, convenient, active travel that is accessible for everyone, including older people and people with limited mobility.

    They should also aim to provide tactile paving and even surfaces for those with limited mobility, and non-reflective, anti-glare paving surfaces for people with visual impairments.

    Professor Gillian Leng, deputy chief executive and director of health and social care at NICE, said:

    “Getting people to be more physically active by increasing the amount they walk or cycle has the potential to benefit both the individual and the health system.

    “As a society we are facing a looming Type 2 diabetes crisis, which is in part caused by people not exercising enough. We need more people to change their lifestyle and to take more exercise.

    “People can feel less safe when they walk or cycle compared with when they drive. We’ve got to change this.

    “So asking planners to prioritise pedestrians, cyclists and those who use public transport when roads are built or upgraded can ensure they are safe, attractive and designed to encourage people to get out from behind their wheel.”

    Joe Irvin, CEO of Living Streets, the UK charity for everyday walking, said:

    “For decades our towns and cities have been built to prioritise motor vehicles; resulting in unhealthy air, congested roads and a decline in people walking everyday journeys.

    “The better planning that NICE is suggesting is absolutely necessary. Those who are the most vulnerable – children and older people - are currently suffering the most from bad air, unhealthy lifestyles and social isolation.

    “It’s time that towns and cities were built for everyone – first and foremost for those on foot. Placing key services like schools, GP surgeries and bus stops within walking distance is vital. More people getting out and walking everyday journeys, such as to work or school, will make us a healthier country.”

    According to NHS Digital in 2016, 26 per cent of adults were classified as obese. This was a 15 per cent increased from 1993 but has remained at a similar level since 2010.

    Physical inactivity is responsible for one in six UK deaths (equal to smoking) and is estimated to cost the UK £7.4 billion annually (including £0.9 billion to the NHS alone) [i].

    Other statements include:

    Local authorities and healthcare commissioners employing physical activity champion to oversee the development and implementation of local strategies, policies and plans.
    Local authorities involving community and voluntary groups to design and manage public open spaces.
    Workplaces having a physical activity programme to encourage employees to move more and be more physically active.
    Schools and early years settings monitoring and updating their travel plans annually to increase active travel.
    A consultation has now begun on the quality statements in the documents and commissioners, service providers, health and public health practitioners and the public have until Friday 1 February to have their say via www.nice.org.uk

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  3. thediscovolante says:05/01/2019 04:05 PM
    just wondering...has anybody actually seen a real cyclist in the cyclist lanes or zones on southports roads....iv seen them everywhere else, but not where they are supposed to be...and for gods sake please put some hi vis clothing on and lights..its like you are begging to be run over!

  4. lawed143 says:05/01/2019 04:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    just wondering...has anybody actually seen a real cyclist in the cyclist lanes or zones on southports roads....iv seen them everywhere else, but not where they are supposed to be...and for gods sake please put some hi vis clothing on and lights..its like you are begging to be run over!
    Actually yes, see em all the time, even the ones without any hi-viz on. If you can’t see a cyclist (or a pedestrian, or any other road user) when they aren’t wearing hi-viz, then you should hand in your licence. I don’t see any cars painted in hi-viz colours, surely they should all be...?
    How about we ensure that drivers don’t stop in the ASL boxes at lights....then cyclists might actually be able to use them.
    Ffs

  5. paulollie says:05/01/2019 08:13 PM
    Trouble is Hi Viz or not it makes bugger all difference when some tosser has his/her head buried in their mobile does it.

  6. donkey22 says:06/01/2019 12:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    just wondering...has anybody actually seen a real cyclist in the cyclist lanes or zones on southports roads....iv seen them everywhere else, but not where they are supposed to be...and for gods sake please put some hi vis clothing on and lights..its like you are begging to be run over!
    Yes I’ve seen plenty of ‘real’ cyclists. Why, do you see fake ones, or are you possibly hallucinating cyclists in strange places? Maybe you should go and have a little chat with your GP.

  7. said says:06/01/2019 08:50 PM
    It will be interesting to see how many of the local Council get on a bike to commute to work, also employees of Smedley Hydro - probably not many, since these people travel from the Liverpool areas.

  8. said says:06/01/2019 08:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lawed143 View Post
    Actually yes, see em all the time, even the ones without any hi-viz on. If you can’t see a cyclist (or a pedestrian, or any other road user) when they aren’t wearing hi-viz, then you should hand in your licence. I don’t see any cars painted in hi-viz colours, surely they should all be...?
    How about we ensure that drivers don’t stop in the ASL boxes at lights....then cyclists might actually be able to use them.
    Ffs
    You must be a daytime commuter to be able to say that. People/cyclists dressed in black at night on poorly lit or unlit roads must rely on fairy godmothers. Hi Viz clothing is a must at nights, especially for the more vulnerable road users

  9. lawed143 says:06/01/2019 10:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    You must be a daytime commuter to be able to say that. People/cyclists dressed in black at night on poorly lit or unlit roads must rely on fairy godmothers. Hi Viz clothing is a must at nights, especially for the more vulnerable road users
    I drive at all times of day and night. Never had any problems seeing other road users. I make use of my eyes, and don’t **** about with my phone while driving. I drive 15000 miles per year and have never had any issues with anyone not wearing hi-viz, either cyclist or pedestrian, motorcycle or truck. I cycle around 1000 miles a year, yet have around 10 incidents with drivers....ignorant drivers like you “said” who have a chip on their shoulders about their entitlements over other road users. Get a grip, or hand in your licence....

  10. silver fox says:06/01/2019 10:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lawed143 View Post
    I drive at all times of day and night. Never had any problems seeing other road users. I make use of my eyes, and don’t **** about with my phone while driving. I drive 15000 miles per year and have never had any issues with anyone not wearing hi-viz, either cyclist or pedestrian, motorcycle or truck. I cycle around 1000 miles a year, yet have around 10 incidents with drivers....ignorant drivers like you “said” who have a chip on their shoulders about their entitlements over other road users. Get a grip, or hand in your licence....
    Come on, you know as well as anyone else there are plenty, make that far too many cyclists who don't feel the need for lights after dark, who feel secure that other road users will somehow spot them and avoid them with ease.

    Sure it doesn't apply to all cyclists just as the big bad brush doesn't apply to all motorists, but surely anyone in a vulnerable position on the road should make sure that they can be seen, remember the old road safety slogan, "see and be seen", still works.

  11. dav says:06/01/2019 11:14 PM
    New and upgraded roads should prioritise pedestrians, cyclists and public transport over motorised vehicles.

    These morons don't even know the basics: Roads are for motorised vehicles.

  12. lawed143 says:06/01/2019 11:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Come on, you know as well as anyone else there are plenty, make that far too many cyclists who don't feel the need for lights after dark, who feel secure that other road users will somehow spot them and avoid them with ease.

    Sure it doesn't apply to all cyclists just as the big bad brush doesn't apply to all motorists, but surely anyone in a vulnerable position on the road should make sure that they can be seen, remember the old road safety slogan, "see and be seen", still works.
    Lights are required by law, but some cyclists don’t bother. Do you really think making hi-viz law will make any difference those who already ignore the law?!
    Preaching about hi-vis is a clear distraction from the pressing need to stop distracted and inattentive driving. Swaddling vulnerable road users in hi-vis or body-armour detracts from this mission and ducks the duty on police to enforce the law when it comes to speeding, too-close overtaking of cyclists, parking in cycle ways, etc
    Also, there is evidence from studies in italy where hi-viz is the law, that there has been no notable reduction in accidents between cyclists and drivers since the law was introduced in 2010. In fact, there are instances where the cyclist thought they were less vulnerable because of the hi-viz they wore, and therefore were less likely to be aware of their present dangers.
    It’s not a simple case of throw hi-biz on and the problem goes away, much more needs to be done educating all road users and segregating those who are vulnerable. Pavements are provided to separate pedestrians from vehicles, sadly putting bikes and cars together was a big historical mistake.

  13. lawed143 says:06/01/2019 11:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    These morons don't even know the basics: Roads are for motorised vehicles.
    No Dav, they are not. They were originally for horse and cart, then bikes, then motorised vehicles. Drivers are there by a revocable licence, whereas everyone else is there by right. Nobody has more entitlement than anybody else on the road. Priority is defined in the law of the Highway Code.
    The roads are paid for through general taxation, not road tax. It’s VED, related to emissions which a cyclist doesn’t pay, just like a number of efficient vehicles don’t pay. Roads are for all, to be shared respectfully.

  14. Ceam says:06/01/2019 11:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    These morons don't even know the basics: Roads are for motorised vehicles.
    Are the really? Did you just make that up or do you actually believe it? Either way kind of a stupid comment.

  15. dav says:07/01/2019 12:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by lawed143
    No Dav, they are not. They were originally for
    That's why I wrote 'are' and not 'were'. As for your other blather, I hope to "respectfully" find you hopscotching in the middle of the M6 someday. I'm sure that will be a wonderful and sensible "sharing" as you engage with the other legitimate users of the tarmac. "Watch out!".... Splat!

  16. lawed143 says:07/01/2019 12:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    That's why I wrote 'are' and not 'were'. As for your other blather, I hope to "respectfully" find you hopscotching in the middle of the M6 someday. I'm sure that will be a wonderful and sensible "sharing" as you engage with the other legitimate users of the tarmac. "Watch out!".... Splat!
    You see Dav, now you’re being an idiot. Why would I cycle on any motorway, the law bans me from that. Are you assuming I’m a law breaker.? Motorways are for motor vehicles, hence the term motorway....🙄
    As for Blathering, you’ve lost the argument so you can only retort with child like ridicule. Don’t get into a discusssion if you’re not prepared to discuss it properly.


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