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Originally Posted by seivad
What really, really gets my goat is imagining the smirks on the heartless *******'s faces (insert the expletive of your choice) when someone came up with the name of a bird whose song rhythm is " A little bit of bread and no cheese". The report states that low income groups will be disproportionately affected by price increases. The choice of name shows how much they care eh?
I assume 'Black Swan' comes from the film when she thought she was throwing herself off a cliff.
Not sure about 'Kingfisher', apart from quite a lot are endangered.
Maybe some of the 80 strong army of ageing Brexiteers will explain when they return from Fuehrer Farage's shindig at the Floral Hall.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I assume 'Black Swan' comes from the film when she thought she was throwing herself off a cliff.
Not sure about 'Kingfisher', apart from quite a lot are endangered.
Maybe some of the 80 strong army of ageing Brexiteers will explain when they return from Fuehrer Farage's shindig at the Floral Hall.
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Originally Posted by seivad
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Watch what you wish for! That presenter is totally biased - Hartlepool now has the largest party in the whole of its region with 13 councillors. 7 out of every ten voters voted Leave!
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Originally Posted by seivad
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Haha, the Nodding Frog (he can't talk without an emphasising air-headbutt) couldn't say what he'd do for the country apart from Brexit. Big surprise. And his favourite 'fisheries' line. If only he'd gone to a single EU meeting on fisheries, ever, it might be worth listening to. No, actually it wouldn't.
Originally Posted by said
That presenter is totally biased
Eh? What because of those hard-hitting questions she asked? Such as 'what will you do apart from Brexit'?
Answer: 'blah (air headbutt) blah (air headbutt) Brussels (air headbutt) blah (air headbutt) blah control (air headbutt) blah blah'.
I guarantee that meeting was an hour of sychophants chantng 'Nigel! Nigel!' and perhaps 10 minutes of the man himself slagging of the keepers of his pension purse. A*$ehole.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Haha, the Nodding Frog (he can't talk without an emphasising air-headbutt) couldn't say what he'd do for the country apart from Brexit. Big surprise. And his favourite 'fisheries' line. If only he'd gone to a single EU meeting on fisheries, ever, it might be worth listening to. No, actually it wouldn't.
Eh? What because of those hard-hitting questions she asked? Such as 'what will you do apart from Brexit'?
Answer: 'blah (air headbutt) blah (air headbutt) Brussels (air headbutt) blah (air headbutt) blah control (air headbutt) blah blah'.
I guarantee that meeting was an hour of sychophants chantng 'Nigel! Nigel!' and perhaps 10 minutes of the man himself slagging of the keepers of his pension purse. A*$ehole.
OK? To put it in a clearer way. The presenter was as thick as two short planks! The Floral Hall has never been so packed! All races, all ages, all fields including graduates and professionals alike. Even if I had been daft enough to vote the other way - I would not have argued with them.
Your fears:
Rise in protests and public disorder - Three months of disruption at Channel crossings - Two-and-a-half day delays for lorries entering the UK Immigration - delays for UK tourists heading to Europe - Disruption to fuel supplies - ‘Significant’ electricity price rises - ‘Severe extended delays’ to medicine supplies - Animal disease outbreaks - Reduction in supplies of fresh food - Supermarket price rises - Panic-buying - Lack of clean water due to failure in supply of chemicals - Breakdown in sharing of law enforcement data with EU countries - Gibraltar not prepared enough - Fishing wars between UK and EU vessels - Hard border in Ireland - were all written by the fairies but if these all happen, I will come around and do your garden every year until things improve! How's that?
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It must be something of a continuing embarrassment for those who lost the intellectual argument that the de facto leader of the leave campaign Nigel Farage, who still attracts such vitriol from them, won the day.
Despite huge inequality of arms he triumphed, it must really smart.
The fact that he looks like an amalgam of Syd James and Arthur Daley further rubs salt in their wounds.
The dropping of the leave campaign police investigations, another of the the self entitled sets reactions to losing must further bother them.
Perhaps democracy may triumph after all one lives in hope.
Their personal attacks as with Boris weaken their arguments you would think they might have the wit to look across the Atlantic and see the emetic one for a good reason to stick to the point.
Winners come in all shapes and sizes.
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OK? To put it in a clearer way. The presenter was as thick as two short planks!
Why? What did she say that gave you that impression?
Even if I had been daft enough to vote the other way - I would not have argued with them.
Again, why? Were they not reasonable people with whom you could debate? Because that is the impression I get too.
Your fears:
Rise in protests and public disorder - Three months of disruption at Channel crossings - Two-and-a-half day delays for lorries entering the UK Immigration - delays for UK tourists heading to Europe - Disruption to fuel supplies - ‘Significant’ electricity price rises - ‘Severe extended delays’ to medicine supplies - Animal disease outbreaks - Reduction in supplies of fresh food - Supermarket price rises - Panic-buying - Lack of clean water due to failure in supply of chemicals - Breakdown in sharing of law enforcement data with EU countries - Gibraltar not prepared enough - Fishing wars between UK and EU vessels - Hard border in Ireland - were all written by the fairies but if these all happen, I will come around and do your garden every year until things improve! How's that?
Not quite sure about this. Are these your words, or the words of your Fuhrer? Have you copy / pasted this from somewhere?
They aren't actually my fears, I have contingency plans. They are what could happen in a no-deal scenario. According to the government, to economists, to industry leaders. You know that private sector you're always banging on about? They say these things. For a time, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I don't know why either. The consequences of a no-deal have been apparent for some time. Business leaders and industry experts have been saying the same thing over and over.
I'll say this again as it doesn't seem to get through the cranium of remainers WHY would the former Governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King come out with "Britain will thrive after our exit from the EU" and the former scare mongering current Governor now having a change of heart and now admitting Britain would be able to get stronger after a no deal. I think they have more brains than the usual know alls.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
I'll say this again as it doesn't seem to get through the cranium of remainers WHY would the former Governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King come out with "Britain will thrive after our exit from the EU" and the former scare mongering current Governor now having a change of heart and now admitting Britain would be able to get stronger after a no deal. I think they have more brains than the usual know alls.
From a member of the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England under King:
For every single source that Leave voters carefully select, there are thousands upon thousands of economists that say differently. It'd take me too long to list them all, but I've listed a fair few on these pages already. In the past few days, Sainsburys and John Lewis have outlined very clearly what a no-deal Brexit will do.
How anyone with the vaguest knowledge of our import / export and transportation system alone can say that a no-deal Brexit won't damage us is sheer fantasy.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
From a member of the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England under King:
For every single source that Leave voters carefully select, there are thousands upon thousands of economists that say differently. It'd take me too long to list them all, but I've listed a fair few on these pages already. In the past few days, Sainsburys and John Lewis have outlined very clearly what a no-deal Brexit will do.
How anyone with the vaguest knowledge of our import / export and transportation system alone can say that a no-deal Brexit won't damage us is sheer fantasy.
It depends on what you mean by damage, freedom does have a cost no doubt but freedom to make our own decisions doesn't seem too bad an ambition.
Being untied from a millstone will be uncomfortable whilst we remove the shackles.
In the longer term just as China manages to overwhelm us with tat despite being outside the EU the adults will work it out and trade will flourish once the awkward squad are out of the way.
The only people who have a vested interest in problem making are the anti-democracy mob.
In who's interest is it to be obstructive ?
The EU is again pumping unicorn money into its economy I don't understand the attraction of your debt ridden mates.
Is it some form of Stockholm syndrome ?
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
the former scare mongering current Governor now having a change of heart and now admitting Britain would be able to get stronger after a no deal. I think they have more brains than the usual know alls.
Do you have a source for that statement from Carney? I ask because during the recent Q&A session with the Treasury Committee, Carney did revise his worst case Brexit forecast. However the B of E's outlook is still far from optimistic.
At the time of his first forecast, preparations for a no deal Brexit were little to none. To some extent that situation has changed, so Carney has revised the drop in GDP by 2.5 points. It now stands at 5.5%. He clearly states that due to improvements in preparedness, the worst case scenario would be less severe than in November 2018. I can't see any statement from Carney advising that Britain will be able to get stronger after a no deal. His preference is, and always has been, an orderly exit with a withdrawal deal, followed by a 2 year transition period.
You can read his letter to the Treasury Committee Here
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Originally Posted by local
It depends on what you mean by damage, freedom does have a cost no doubt but freedom to make our own decisions doesn't seem too bad an ambition.
Damage means the poorest and most vulnerable people in this country will be hit the hardest.
Being untied from a millstone will be uncomfortable whilst we remove the shackles.
'Uncomfortable' for whom? Oh yes, the poorest and most vulnerable in this country.
The only people who have a vested interest in problem making are the anti-democracy mob.
And the point of that is? What interest is their in being 'anti-democratic'? A day out in the capital for an occasional demo?
The EU is again pumping unicorn money into its economy I don't understand the attraction of your debt ridden mates.
The attraction: Worker's rights. Human Rights laws. Laws that don't turn us into a deregulated tax haven. The EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive. European regional development fund. Paid annual leave. Maternity rights. Clear food labelling - including allergies. Cleaner water and air. Anti-discrimination laws. Health care abroad. Freedom of movement. Safety at work. 17 transformative developments, including of formerly derelict land around Lime Street station, major improvements to Liverpool John Lennon airport, and the arena and convention centre on the waterfront. Merseyside qualified for £1.6bn “Objective One” EU funding between 1994 and 2013 to try to haul it out of decline. the £5.6bn rebate or the annual £4bn invested back into the UK. £11bn allocated from 2014 to 2020, with a further £25bn available for rural development and agriculture. Better education (Erasmus scheme). Social market economy. Promoting fair trade. Actions against cartels. Travelling rights. Consumer rights. Cheap air travel. Clean beaches. Problem free imports and exports. Data protection. Environmental protection. According to CBI figures, our EU membership is worth £3,000 per household – thanks to all the trade, investment, jobs and lower prices that come from us being a member. Regional food protections. No paperwork for customs within the EEA. Anti-trust laws. Bans on growth hormones in food. Peace after centuries of bloodshed. Europol. The EU Common Security & Defence Policy.
Shall I go on? Because there is much, much more.
Is it some form of Stockholm syndrome ?
Obviously not. Is yours 'Make Britain Great Again' syndrome?
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OK? To put it in a clearer way. The presenter was as thick as two short planks! The Floral Hall has never been so packed! All races, all ages, all fields including graduates and professionals alike. Even if I had been daft enough to vote the other way - I would not have argued with them.
Your fears:
Rise in protests and public disorder - Three months of disruption at Channel crossings - Two-and-a-half day delays for lorries entering the UK Immigration - delays for UK tourists heading to Europe - Disruption to fuel supplies - ‘Significant’ electricity price rises - ‘Severe extended delays’ to medicine supplies - Animal disease outbreaks - Reduction in supplies of fresh food - Supermarket price rises - Panic-buying - Lack of clean water due to failure in supply of chemicals - Breakdown in sharing of law enforcement data with EU countries - Gibraltar not prepared enough - Fishing wars between UK and EU vessels - Hard border in Ireland - were all written by the fairies but if these all happen, I will come around and do your garden every year until things improve! How's that?
Those are the facts from the Governments own document that they tried to keep secret - Operation Yellowhammer!
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Yet you manage to spend hours debating with remainers on here!
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