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Originally Posted by local
It seems (today anyway) that hype is being buried by common sense.
Buried?
Well, here's some more hype. British manufacturing rolls further downhill today, as Nissan Sunderland talk about plant closures due Brexit.....That's 30% of (all makes of) cars made in UK 'Buried'!
STOP BREXIT!
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Originally Posted by local
My comments concern those made by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar today who says he can see a deal happening by the 31st October.
I know you don't like it when the grownups talk, you much prefer the doom and gloom narrative.
Still work to be done but at least there is now some common sense in the talks.
The problem is no doubt that the anti-democracy extremists will be looking to sabotage any agreements by any means they can.
Which grown ups were these ? I've scanned the tv can only see babbling panic stricken and desperate goons called MP s ,as for the " positive possibility " of today's desperate attempt to bandage the wounds , I hope it heals well , but after 2 years of " it will all be fine " being repeatedly blurted out from an array of persistent leave voices ,concrete actions with approval from all the others will be the only thing to cast some joy about ,until then any unbalanced premise fails to bite
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Originally Posted by local
My comments concern those made by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar today who says he can see a deal happening by the 31st October.
I know you don't like it when the grownups talk, you much prefer the doom and gloom narrative.
Still work to be done but at least there is now some common sense in the talks.
The problem is no doubt that the anti-democracy extremists will be looking to sabotage any agreements by any means they can.
I'll leave the 'I told you so' Comment till then shall I?
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Buried?
Well, here's some more hype. British manufacturing rolls further downhill today, as Nissan Sunderland talk about plant closures due Brexit.....That's 30% of (all makes of) cars made in UK 'Buried'!
STOP BREXIT!
But you don't like cars .......
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YOU LOT MAKE ME ANGRY! FOODBANKS, HOMELESSNESSS, YOU ALL WANT TO REMAIN IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT LOVES TO BRING CHEAP FOREIGN UNSKILLED LABOUR OVER HERE! I had a friend who was a farm labourer (he was British) But back in 2007 when the Eastern Europeans came over here! MY FRIEND WAS OUT OF A JOB. He was told by his boss that he was no longer viable as he can employ two Eastern Europeans for the the price he was employing him for. So i want a clean Brexit so we can employ unskilled British people into jobs. By the way my friend killed himself because he could not find another job! He always told me he was a grafter not a sponger. Being on the dole finished him off! It's funny that i see alot of British people who are unskilled on the streets homeless and begging! Let's get the unskilled the forgotten British people into work and off WELFARE! All you PC aholes who want to remain in th the EU make me sick!
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Originally Posted by titanic
YOU LOT MAKE ME ANGRY! FOODBANKS, HOMELESSNESSS, YOU ALL WANT TO REMAIN IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT LOVES TO BRING CHEAP FOREIGN UNSKILLED LABOUR OVER HERE! I had a friend who was a farm labourer (he was British) But back in 2007 when the Eastern Europeans came over here! MY FRIEND WAS OUT OF A JOB. He was told by his boss that he was no longer viable as he can employ two Eastern Europeans for the the price he was employing him for. So i want a clean Brexit so we can employ unskilled British people into jobs. By the way my friend killed himself because he could not find another job! He always told me he was a grafter not a sponger. Being on the dole finished him off! It's funny that i see alot of British people who are unskilled on the streets homeless and begging! Let's get the unskilled the forgotten British people into work and off WELFARE! All you PC aholes who want to remain in th the EU make me sick!
Well blame the farmer, Not the Eastern Europeans who are being exploited. In fact maybe the farmer should have been reported, As I'm sure your friend wasn't on double the minimum wage.
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Originally Posted by Ceam
Well blame the farmer, Not the Eastern Europeans who are being exploited. In fact maybe the farmer should have been reported, As I'm sure your friend wasn't on double the minimum wage.
Your Avatar says alot about yout a complete A'HOLE! An a@hole who thinks of number one "I'm alright jack". My friend was on £14.00 an hour and thanks to Eastern Europeans and THE GREEDY FARMER he lost his job! Then his life! But you don't give a toss about human life do you! Because freedom of movement means more to you, British Business is frightened of losing cheap foreign labour that's why it's took so long to leave the EU! It's funny that when big CEO'S are asked why can't you take on British workers they like like they are a rabbit caught in the headlights. They would like to answer because they are lazy! Rubbish there are lots of British people who would love to get their self-respect back by getting a job! Even if it is unskilled! BRITISH PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY! So Ceam that's why you would sooner fall out with your parents over the EU! Because they voted to leave just shows what kind of person you are "A ROBOTIC REMAINER" What do you say "Family First, Last Always" what aload of rubbish! You think of yourself, Your Pocket, Always" Yes i've ghost read your posts, and all the others on here and yes, all you remainers will get a wake up call! Yes times are changing! You lot can argue the toss on here but we are out!
Last edited by titanic; 11/10/2019 at 02:07 AM.
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The Observer’s Carole Cadwalladr should be given an award. No, not the Orwell Prize, whose committee debased itself in rewarding conspiracy theories over actual journalism by giving Cadwalladr the award last year. And no, not the Pulitzer Prize, for which Cadwalladr was nominated this year – perhaps she pipped rival conspiracist David Icke for the spot on the shortlist? She should instead be given an award for her services to Brexit.
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Originally Posted by titanic
Your Avatar says alot about yout a complete A'HOLE! An a@hole who thinks of number one "I'm alright jack". My friend was on £14.00 an hour and thanks to Eastern Europeans and THE GREEDY FARMER he lost his job! Then his life! But you don't give a toss about human life do you! Because freedom of movement means more to you, British Business is frightened of losing cheap foreign labour that's why it's took so long to leave the EU! It's funny that when big CEO'S are asked why can't you take on British workers they like like they are a rabbit caught in the headlights. They would like to answer because they are lazy! Rubbish there are lots of British people who would love to get their self-respect back by getting a job! Even if it is unskilled! BRITISH PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY! So Ceam that's why you would sooner fall out with your parents over the EU! Because they voted to leave just shows what kind of person you are "A ROBOTIC REMAINER" What do you say "Family First, Last Always" what aload of rubbish! You think of yourself, Your Pocket, Always" Yes i've ghost read your posts, and all the others on here and yes, all you remainers will get a wake up call! Yes times are changing! You lot can argue the toss on here but we are out!
This didn't chime with me - according to your highly emotive rant your 'friend' was on the thick end of £30k a year.
A cursory search on't t'interweb revealed the following - check it out - highly informative.
https://www.indeed.co.uk/salaries/Farm-Worker-Salaries
https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/articles...rs-and-reports
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Buried?
Well, here's some more hype. British manufacturing rolls further downhill today, as Nissan Sunderland talk about plant closures due Brexit.....That's 30% of (all makes of) cars made in UK 'Buried'!
STOP BREXIT!
Do you know why the plant is under threat ?
Do you know how Nissan is performing worldwide ?
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Originally Posted by Ceam
I'll leave the 'I told you so' Comment till then shall I?
I have no more confidence than you that we will leave on the 31st October the anti-democracy mob are not finished yet.
They do not want any deal.
It is more important to conclude a deal than meet a date and the fact that the Taoiseach has moved into supportive mode is good but the champagne stay firmly on ice.
The fact that the negative tide has turned will galvanise the people who do not respect our democracy into further extreme action.
The dirty tricks cook book will be well thumbed.
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Originally Posted by titanic
Your Avatar says alot about yout a complete A'HOLE! An a@hole who thinks of number one "I'm alright jack". My friend was on £14.00 an hour and thanks to Eastern Europeans and THE GREEDY FARMER he lost his job! Then his life! But you don't give a toss about human life do you! Because freedom of movement means more to you, British Business is frightened of losing cheap foreign labour that's why it's took so long to leave the EU! It's funny that when big CEO'S are asked why can't you take on British workers they like like they are a rabbit caught in the headlights. They would like to answer because they are lazy! Rubbish there are lots of British people who would love to get their self-respect back by getting a job! Even if it is unskilled! BRITISH PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY! So Ceam that's why you would sooner fall out with your parents over the EU! Because they voted to leave just shows what kind of person you are "A ROBOTIC REMAINER" What do you say "Family First, Last Always" what aload of rubbish! You think of yourself, Your Pocket, Always" Yes i've ghost read your posts, and all the others on here and yes, all you remainers will get a wake up call! Yes times are changing! You lot can argue the toss on here but we are out!
LOL you're a funny man with a stick up his ***. I've not fallen out with my parents, I've had argument over Brexit with them, but we have not fallen out. I also discuss brexit with anybody that wishes to talk about it. A calm debate with out falling out with any of them.
Don't think about others.. LOL
spent 10 years on a school PTA, spent about 4 months leaving work early so I could stop people parking on no park zones out side school to keep children safe, Putting my own safety at risk, probably from parents like you.
Money is probably the last thing that drives me.
TBH my biggest concern it the collapse of Europe and the fall out we'll all have to deal with from that. Which could possibly see our children going to war, because you don't like some polish chap that's being exploited by English farmers.
I'm impressed your friend was on £14.00 in 2007, wish I was. That's way over average wage for then.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...uk-since-2006/
Or maybe I'm just calling BS.
BTW the avatar is an image of a 3d print I did, that's all.
and the user title is exactly who I am. "Family First, Last, Always"
edit.
Just read some of your posts, Quite an angry little man aren't you. :-)
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Originally Posted by titanic
YOU LOT MAKE ME ANGRY! FOODBANKS, HOMELESSNESSS, YOU ALL WANT TO REMAIN IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT LOVES TO BRING CHEAP FOREIGN UNSKILLED LABOUR OVER HERE! I had a friend who was a farm labourer (he was British) But back in 2007 when the Eastern Europeans came over here! MY FRIEND WAS OUT OF A JOB. He was told by his boss that he was no longer viable as he can employ two Eastern Europeans for the the price he was employing him for. So i want a clean Brexit so we can employ unskilled British people into jobs. By the way my friend killed himself because he could not find another job! He always told me he was a grafter not a sponger. Being on the dole finished him off! It's funny that i see alot of British people who are unskilled on the streets homeless and begging! Let's get the unskilled the forgotten British people into work and off WELFARE! All you PC aholes who want to remain in th the EU make me sick!
You are right to be angry, but everything you state is due to failings in this country, failure to control and properly regulate the so called agencies, the payroll companies, the gang (slave) master system, zero hour contracts, all of these practises are employed by employers wishing to avoid actually employing anyone, but still need cheap labour and of course a cheap skate government which then trumpets that the numbers employed are at the highest level ever.
Sure, your anger is justified, in fact join the club, but target those who exploit and abuse the system and a government which at best turns a blind eye, or at worst supports the abuse.
Even the "champion" of the people, Farage, has said that immigration, particularly in relation to unskilled labour, will continue after leaving the EU, but no mention of robust controls.
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Originally Posted by titanic
YOU LOT MAKE ME ANGRY! FOODBANKS, HOMELESSNESSS, YOU ALL WANT TO REMAIN IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT LOVES TO BRING CHEAP FOREIGN UNSKILLED LABOUR OVER HERE! I had a friend who was a farm labourer (he was British) But back in 2007 when the Eastern Europeans came over here! MY FRIEND WAS OUT OF A JOB. He was told by his boss that he was no longer viable as he can employ two Eastern Europeans for the the price he was employing him for. So i want a clean Brexit so we can employ unskilled British people into jobs. By the way my friend killed himself because he could not find another job! He always told me he was a grafter not a sponger. Being on the dole finished him off! It's funny that i see alot of British people who are unskilled on the streets homeless and begging! Let's get the unskilled the forgotten British people into work and off WELFARE! All you PC aholes who want to remain in th the EU make me sick!
Wasn't the decision made by labour and blare back in 2004 ? (A decision made by UK government ? Nothing to do with Brussels ?
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Originally Posted by local
Do you know why the plant is under threat ?
Do you know how Nissan is performing worldwide ?
Japan has signed a Trade Deal with the EU which will reduce the Tariff on cars imported into the EU so Nissan will no longer need the plant for access to the market.
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