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Originally Posted by Alikado
Yes he has said he is paying for it but he hasn't said where the money is coming from, it appears that the bill has been doing the hokey cokey but there are clear procedures in place to prevent Putin or Assad et al getting their feet under the table, if somebody paid or if he got a loan it should have been declared within 30 days. If it had gone over time even by a couple of weeks nobody would have been bothered but his constant refusal to reveal the source of the funds is rapidly becoming self flagellation.
You mean where he got HIS money from ?
I would contact Starmer and add it to his list of the greatest threats facing our country.
Sod the pandemic and huge debt, the rise of China, the corruption in Russia etc.
Lets get the important stuff done.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Why would / should the Labour Party Pay, the Electoral Commission is an independent agency that regulates party and election finance and sets standards for how elections should be run it was set up by the Government and is financed by them. Any investigations by them must have been done because of complaints made to them with sufficient evidence of wrong doing or they wouldn't have been investigated. Any "lack of accountability" and of operating by an "unclear rulebook" must be down to the Government who set it up, they can only operate within the parameters given to them.
Who finances the Government?
Every request is an extra expense.
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Originally Posted by local
You mean where he got HIS money from ?
I would contact Starmer and add it to his list of the greatest threats facing our country.
Sod the pandemic and huge debt, the rise of China, the corruption in Russia etc.
Lets get the important stuff done.
I wonder who dared old Lisa Kuenssberg to ask about the deco funding in the middle of the Covid-19 briefing?
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Originally Posted by local
You mean where he got HIS money from ?
I would contact Starmer and add it to his list of the greatest threats facing our country.
Sod the pandemic and huge debt, the rise of China, the corruption in Russia etc.
Lets get the important stuff done.
Well it is a mystery, perhaps he suddenly found it down the back of the old sofa, if he has had a loan or donation or the party has paid it has to be declared, it hasn't so what is there to hide?
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Just as the stories about cronyism and lying have started to fade, we now have have tales about shady funding of flat refurbishments and an alleged quote about how our Prime Minister was prepared to let ‘the bodies pile high’ rather than enter a third lock down. Is it time for him to go? And let’s have no gas lighting please from the usual suspects.
That's one of the oddest concluding lines I've read in an opening post. I dip in and out of this Forum, but I can't say I've seen this "gas lighting" that you appear to have found prevalent. Can you point to the examples?
On the subject of whether Boris said about the "bodies piled high" I have to say that unfortunately that's just the type of casual, graphic, hyperbolic comment I associate with this Prime Minister. I imagine he did indeed say that.
If he did say it I don't imagine he meant it, for reason that it was around this time last year that he was near to death's door himself.
I do imagine he would have felt the pressure to say something like that. Although Boris enjoys a thumping majority, there is widespread lockdown scepticism among his party and he must feel it necessary to make placatory comments - in his own bombastic way.
It's a comment that's come back to bite him, and the timing couldn't be worse, given that the bodies are literally and harrowingly piled high in India, currently.
Watching PMQs, I did laugh when Keir gave Boris multiple choice options. He should sprinkle in that approach more often; more humorous mixed in with more forceful.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Who finances the Government?
Every request is an extra expense.
The Electoral Commission has a budget so every request is not extra expense, when presented with allegations they are bound to investigate
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
That's one of the oddest concluding lines I've read in an opening post. I dip in and out of this Forum, but I can't say I've seen this "gas lighting" that you appear to have found prevalent. Can you point to the examples?
On the subject of whether Boris said about the "bodies piled high" I have to say that unfortunately that's just the type of casual, graphic, hyperbolic comment I associate with this Prime Minister. I imagine he did indeed say that.
If he did say it I don't imagine he meant it, for reason that it was around this time last year that he was near to death's door himself.
I do imagine he would have felt the pressure to say something like that. Although Boris enjoys a thumping majority, there is widespread lockdown scepticism among his party and he must feel it necessary to make placatory comments - in his own bombastic way.
It's a comment that's come back to bite him, and the timing couldn't be worse, given that the bodies are literally and harrowingly piled high in India, currently.
Watching PMQs, I did laugh when Keir gave Boris multiple choice options. He should sprinkle in that approach more often; more humorous mixed in with more forceful.
The bodies are not piling high in India - I have seen a video of the area in which a photograph was published of a woman lying down on the street. The photograph appeared in all Western newspapers accompanying the headline "People in India dying on the streets" There are no people dying on the streets and the woman pictured had just been carried out of a house where there had been a serious gas leak.
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Just as the stories about cronyism and lying have started to fade, we now have have tales about shady funding of flat refurbishments and an alleged quote about how our Prime Minister was prepared to let ‘the bodies pile high’ rather than enter a third lock down. Is it time for him to go? And let’s have no gas lighting please from the usual suspects.
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse where a person or group, such as Westminster Parliament, makes someone question their sanity, perception of reality, or memories. People experiencing gaslighting often feel confused, anxious, and unable to trust themselves.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
The Electoral Commission has a budget so every request is not extra expense, when presented with allegations they are bound to investigate
Oh please - give me strength!
So - you'd have us believe that once that budget is used up they then throw up their hands and say - 'sorry, no more investigations- we've run out of money'.
The whole string of questions being asked is a distraction and merely makes Stammer et al look like petty simple minded fools.
As I said previously - if this lot are the best we've got as an opposition then we're stuffed!
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Originally Posted by Hamble
I wonder who dared old Lisa Kuenssberg to ask about the deco funding in the middle of the Covid-19 briefing?
Cheered me up no end to see that Labour mouthpiece slapped down. She still continued in the same vein on the 6 o'clock news by rambling on about how much trouble Johnson is in, how serious this all is for the Government blah blah blah blah.
That woman has had it in for Johnson ever since he made her look stupid by suggesting, after she'd rambled on at length whilst supposingly asking questions, that somewhere in that minestrone of statements there's probably a question.
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The disgruntled me-edia and the lefty losers continue their anti-Boris tinnitus style campaign as the rest of the country gets on with the things that matter.
One day they might realise that their fog of nonsense helps him.
Hold your fire lefty losers till you actually have something, then by all means let rip.
At the moment you're throwing sand in the air in a storm.
Can anyone take Keir Starmer seriously when he asks about wallpaper in a pandemic?
Of all the things going on in the world he chooses wallpaper for his PMQ questions, he and those who think it's reasonable have lost the plot.
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Originally Posted by local
The disgruntled me-edia and the lefty losers continue their anti-Boris tinnitus style campaign as the rest of the country gets on with the things that matter.
One day they might realise that their fog of nonsense helps him.
Hold your fire lefty losers till you actually have something, then by all means let rip.
At the moment you're throwing sand in the air in a storm.
Can anyone take Keir Starmer seriously when he asks about wallpaper in a pandemic?
Of all the things going on in the world he chooses wallpaper for his PMQ questions, he and those who think it's reasonable have lost the plot.
It's not about wallpaper it's about the anti corruption procedures that Bojo is not following or trying to circumvent it is all of his own making, when the report comes out if he hasn't cooperated it will be damning, if he rejects the report it will lead to further allegations of 'cover up', if he had paid attention to detail which he seldom does he wouldn't be in this mess.
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Originally Posted by gazaprop
Cheered me up no end to see that Labour mouthpiece slapped down. She still continued in the same vein on the 6 o'clock news by rambling on about how much trouble Johnson is in, how serious this all is for the Government blah blah blah blah.
That woman has had it in for Johnson ever since he made her look stupid by suggesting, after she'd rambled on at length whilst supposingly asking questions, that somewhere in that minestrone of statements there's probably a question.
The question was asked to Halfcock, he sidestepped it but who was it actually directed at?
Many have questions to answer and many have been 'economical' with the truth, we shall have to wait and see, this may last longer than Crossroads.
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Originally Posted by gazaprop
Oh please - give me strength!
So - you'd have us believe that once that budget is used up they then throw up their hands and say - 'sorry, no more investigations- we've run out of money'.
The whole string of questions being asked is a distraction and merely makes Stammer et al look like petty simple minded fools.
As I said previously - if this lot are the best we've got as an opposition then we're stuffed!
It's not a case of running out of money and stopping investigations, like all organisations they manage a budget and prioritise the work.
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