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Originally Posted by local
if it's proven he has done wrong rather than acted exactly as the American people voted for then fine lock him up.
That's rather an odd justification for wrongdoing while in office but sadly one used by many a despot.....'I'm only doing what I was elected to do' can only be used to defend policies not corruption and certainly not to go after people who oppose him and their families.
The fact that so many Americans are OK with Trump's, and the Republican party's, actions is mindboggling coming from the land, so called, of the free and first democracy. But apparently anything goes if your position of privilege is threatened. Let's hope they are a diminishing minority. America's already on the brink.
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Originally Posted by joan ofarc
That's rather an odd justification for wrongdoing while in office but sadly one used by many a despot.....'I'm only doing what I was elected to do' can only be used to defend policies not corruption and certainly not to go after people who oppose him and their families.
The fact that so many Americans are OK with Trump's, and the Republican party's, actions is mindboggling coming from the land, so called, of the free and first democracy. But apparently anything goes if your position of privilege is threatened. Let's hope they are a diminishing minority. America's already on the brink.
Surely you didn't think Trump would be a saint?
No one could possibly think he would be a paragon of virtue.
He was run through the mainly opposing media mill for months.
Their democracy got rid of him.
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Originally Posted by local
Mentioning Trump is pointless we all know he is under investigation by Democrat-led authorities and if it's proven he has done wrong rather than acted exactly as the American people voted for then fine lock him up.
Biden is a wrong un, full stop.
As I have said both Biden and Trump are as straight as a wiggly line.
Biden is just the bigger hypocrite.
Trump would happily find a part on some mob movie.
He is under investigation by both Democrat and Republican authorities, sure we know the Trumpublicans are trying every dodge available to deflect and prevent investigations, including the attack on the Capitol.
Instead of parroting claims and allegations from the
Q Anon, MAGA, Trumpers consortium, how about some actual evidence of alleged misdeeds.
There is no defence for the myriad lies and deliberate misinformation spouted by Trump, normally it would be easy to laugh off the ludicrous allegations, but when we get a so called leader promoting insurrection and now dabbling with a military coup, still believes he can overturn the 2020 election, he is a danger to democracy everywhere not just in the USA.
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Originally Posted by local
Surely you didn't think Trump would be a saint?
No one could possibly think he would be a paragon of virtue.
He was run through the mainly opposing media mill for months.
Their democracy got rid of him.
Nobody in their right mind thought he would either be a saint or an efective leader, that's not the point. It much more worrying that so many people excuse what he did, from the crazy cult followers to the people, like you, who seem to think anything can be excused because, well what did you expect. The worst offenders are the Republicans who know what he is doing and have publicly decried him and his actions yet still empower a man who lost them elections and ran roughshod over the democratic processes they are supposed to hold dear. They have some convoluted reasoning I am sure but it's beyond what any normal person would do.
Yes, the democracy got rid of him, but barely and now that voting rules are being altered everywhere he may well be back.
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Originally Posted by local
Surely you didn't think Trump would be a saint?
No one could possibly think he would be a paragon of virtue.
He was run through the mainly opposing media mill for months.
Their democracy got rid of him.
Very true, but surely it’s fair to expect competence, to expect government for the country, instead the USA got a self serving fraudster, a con man and serial liar.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Very true, but surely it’s fair to expect competence, to expect government for the country, instead the USA got a self serving fraudster, a con man and serial liar.
Nothing Trump did or said was a surprise in fact he was better than expected for most unbiased observers.
Don't forget world wars were predicted for Trump.
People just got the orange mist.
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Originally Posted by local
Nothing Trump did or said was a surprise in fact he was better than expected for most unbiased observers.
Don't forget world wars were predicted for Trump.
People just got the orange mist.
The orange mist is still prevalent in the USA, with Trump saying he will be reinstated as President by August, thanks to BS promoted by Mike Lindell.
Sadly too many knuckleheads actually believe this rubbish, then you have Flynn promoting a military coup, the USA has many political problems, Trump is the cause not the solution.
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It's time to find someone better and send him permanently to the golf course,
but for some balance not everything he did was bad.
I notice his "Chaina virus" observations roundly criticised at the time are now gaining some traction.
He also stood up to China and its commercial practices which is something we should be doing to protect jobs here.
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Originally Posted by local
It's time to find someone better and send him permanently to the golf course,
They already have found someone 100% better.
It’s time to send Trump to prison. Preferably permanently.
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Originally Posted by local
It's time to find someone better and send him permanently to the golf course,
but for some balance not everything he did was bad.
I notice his "Chaina virus" observations roundly criticised at the time are now gaining some traction.
He also stood up to China and its commercial practices which is something we should be doing to protect jobs here.
There are still queries as to the origins of the virus, but hardly safe to say that Trump’s missives are gaining traction, apart from of course his rabid supporters.
Suppose that’s why imports from China to the US continue to grow, it’s safe to say US exports to China have also grown, but not by the same amount, also noticeable that many US companies exporting to China have major Chinese investment.
Trump shouted a lot, did very little.
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Originally Posted by said
Hunter Biden, while under investigation for tax and financial matters, could soon be facing an investigation over an October 2018 incident where he purchased a firearm after potentially lying on a background check form.
The background check that Hunter Biden filled out in October 2018 to obtain a firearm is relevant because in order to obtain the firearm, Hunter Biden had to state that he was not addicted to any substances. However, in a recent book that he wrote, Hunter Biden admitted that at approximately the same time he obtained the firearm, he was addicted to drugs. Lying on an ATF Form 4473 is a felony that can carry a 10-year prison sentence with a $250,000 fine.
Fancy starting yet another Trump thread!
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
Fancy starting yet another Trump thread!
I think Trump is outsourcing his tweets.
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