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Originally Posted by Nick2
(A) That's a cop-out! Remember the coal mining industry.
(B) You've never heard of wind or solar power?
Or wave power. I know it would be a massive investment initially, but the tide doesn't stop going in and out.
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Originally Posted by local
Erh No to be honest.
I can quite happily accept attributions from elsewhere.
From my understanding you say you have "special access" to material and information that we don't, although how you know what I and others have access to is an issue.
The rather odd thing though is you copy and paste from the very source you denigrate in preference.
I know you do not have access to any such material because of your responses. You have never argued an actual point of view with researched facts.
I did not say that I have 'special access' to information but I am in a position to be able to obtain educated views and discussions how and when I need to.
I am amazed by the number of people who are quite happy to sit and waste their time glued to a television set all the time. Think how much of their lives they are wasting - I go out, I read, I study, I learn, I play music, I build old cars, I go to the gym, I join in discussions with my friends (who also do not watch television) there is so much in life to learn, to have fun etc.,don't you think?.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
When you see a tree you see fuel, but does the above mean that there are certain trees you don't see as fuel?
All governments have agreed to the same arrangement of planting new trees - billions of them. So yes, a great many are used a fuel. Trees planted that are not for fuel? I would suggest you pay a visit to Worden Park in Leyland where they have a huge collection of a variety of trees from all over the world for visitor's interest.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Or wave power. I know it would be a massive investment initially, but the tide doesn't stop going in and out.
Wave and tidal, although both making use of the sea, are in fact two distinct and separate technologies....
Wave makes use of wave action to operate pistons within a floating boom or similar, regardless of the state of the tide. In fact wave operates just as well with or without tidal flow. It's a sort of second-hand windpower, since it's the wind that creates waves. The stronger and longer the duration of the wind, the bigger the waves produced.
Tidal utilises the fact that tides exist. There are really two ways of harnessing tidal energy. First is by creating a dam across mouth of an estuary or creating a man-made lagoon, the dam/lagoon wall has turbines built into it. As the tide flows through the turbines, power is generated. Second requires no dam or lagoon, just a location where tidal flow is at its strongest. In this case, turbines are lowered directly into the water, being turned by the passing water flow.
Of the above methods, damming off an entire estuary will yield the most power. It also offers the prospect of putting a road along the top, connecting communities on either side. Critics point to the effect a huge dam would have on wildlife and that it would obstruct shipping. Imo, wildlife would adjust in time. Shipping movements can of course be accommodated with locks.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Wave and tidal, although both making use of the sea, are in fact two distinct and separate technologies....
Wave makes use of wave action to operate pistons within a floating boom or similar, regardless of the state of the tide. In fact wave operates just as well with or without tidal flow. It's a sort of second-hand windpower, since it's the wind that creates waves. The stronger and longer the duration of the wind, the bigger the waves produced.
Tidal utilises the fact that tides exist. There are really two ways of harnessing tidal energy. First is by creating a dam across mouth of an estuary or creating a man-made lagoon, the dam/lagoon wall has turbines built into it. As the tide flows through the turbines, power is generated. Second requires no dam or lagoon, just a location where tidal flow is at its strongest. In this case, turbines are lowered directly into the water, being turned by the passing water flow.
Of the above methods, damming off an entire estuary will yield the most power. It also offers the prospect of putting a road along the top, connecting communities on either side. Critics point to the effect a huge dam would have on wildlife and that it would obstruct shipping. Imo, wildlife would adjust in time. Shipping movements can of course be accommodated with locks.
There was talk of a tidal lagoon in Southport. I wonder what happened?
https://southport.qlocal.co.uk/south..._-55018071.htm
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