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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post
    Unfortunately the statute of limitations has run out for a criminal charge. Giuffre was only able to file a civil case due to temporary legislation in NY state enabling victims to file after statutes had expired. That legislation expired shortly after Giuffre filed her case.


    I agree, his behaviour appears to indicate guilt. If he doesn't appear and contend the case, he'll be found guilty anyway. As the burden of proof is much lower in a civil court, chances are he would be found guilty. He's damned whatever he does. However not answering to the charges means we won't get to hear the prosecution's evidence. And I'm sure that's what Andrew wants to avoid at any cost. Airing royalty's dirty underwear is frowned upon in their circles!
    I think she hasn't been bought off because of cost, past indiscretions of his and his brother have been bought off relatively cheaply but more is at stake this time.





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    Scotland Yard have 'investigated' and is taking no further action after reviewing allegations connected to Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein.
    The force had assessed a document released in August 2021 as part of Virginia Giuffre's US lawsuit against the Duke of York.

    The New Years Honours list is awaited.

    https://news.sky.com/story/prince-an...-york-12431112

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    Another bizarre Epstein-themed interview performance.

    Weird replies...


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    Well for those who can read that "Norman Collier" interview the very uh umm squirm squirm leads one to think there is a whole lot more erh umm to find out about those "dinners".

    Maybe just maybe that's why he is single now?

    There are quite a few well-reported extramarital skeletons in Bill's closet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    Another bizarre Epstein-themed interview performance.

    Weird replies...
    Very odd.

    On the one hand, Epstein was a businessman. He can't surely have dealt exclusively with paedos.

    On the other, if Gates was only interested in meeting donors for his foundation, when none were forthcoming after the first few meetings, wouldn't he be savvy enough to figure out it wasn't going to happen? Would he continue to meet Epstein for 'years'?

    According to 'The Week', Gates met Epstein for the first time in 2011. Epstein was already a convicted sex offender. Plus the relationship between the two men made Melinda Gates 'furious'. I mean, you just wouldn't, would you? Not for all the 'donations' in the world.

    I can imagine anyone would be nervous talking about even one meeting with Epstein. But Gates is another in a seemingly long line of men who knew about his convictions, but still had a relationship with him. That isn't easily explained.

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    Maybe Epstein ran a very lucrative Blackmail sideline.

    Entice the rich and famous with his "offerings" and then send them a Prince Andrew picture.

    Maybe that's why he is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Maybe Epstein ran a very lucrative Blackmail sideline.

    Entice the rich and famous with his "offerings" and then send them a Prince Andrew picture.

    Maybe that's why he is dead.
    I've no doubt.

    I think he made a lot of rich and famous men very, very nervous.

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    And an awful lot of enabling women;



    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...n-women-487157

    and men.


    Like many wrong doers they could not have carried on as they did without assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Very odd.

    On the one hand, Epstein was a businessman. He can't surely have dealt exclusively with paedos.

    On the other, if Gates was only interested in meeting donors for his foundation, when none were forthcoming after the first few meetings, wouldn't he be savvy enough to figure out it wasn't going to happen? Would he continue to meet Epstein for 'years'?

    According to 'The Week', Gates met Epstein for the first time in 2011. Epstein was already a convicted sex offender. Plus the relationship between the two men made Melinda Gates 'furious'. I mean, you just wouldn't, would you? Not for all the 'donations' in the world.

    I can imagine anyone would be nervous talking about even one meeting with Epstein. But Gates is another in a seemingly long line of men who knew about his convictions, but still had a relationship with him. That isn't easily explained.
    In response to the interviewer's first question, Gates starts trying to steeple his hands but soon can't help trying to push back down an imaginary ring on his ring finger!

    The timing of the uneven shoulder shrugging is one to watch as well but I found his answer in the following exchange to be rather chilling especially when combined with the smile he used to deliver it:

    Judy Woodruff:
    Is there a lesson for you? For anyone else looking at this?

    Bill Gates:
    Well, he’s dead, so in general you always have to be careful.


    For a further potential twist:

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/bill-g...-nobel-report/

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    I can imagine the text,


    Got some rogue code, control, alt, delete Epstein.

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    It was predictable that Andrew would eventually instruct to take this approach - but it's becoming increasingly confusing to how Andrew will be able to continue to claim that he was completely unaware of any Epstein-related sex trafficking happening!

    Prince Andrew accuses Virginia Giuffre of ‘procuring slutty girls’ for Epstein

    https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/31/andre...tein-15517973/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    It was predictable that Andrew would eventually instruct to take this approach - but it's becoming increasingly confusing to how Andrew will be able to continue to claim that he was completely unaware of any Epstein-related sex trafficking happening!

    Prince Andrew accuses Virginia Giuffre of ‘procuring slutty girls’ for Epstein

    https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/31/andre...tein-15517973/


    There's an electrician who would make a good cellmate for Andrew especially when he's asleep.

    Unfortunately, it's Virginia looking to stuff her pockets again rather than someone who could have landed a few problems at his feet some time ago.

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    Ghislaine Maxwell finally goes on trial after 15 months on remand

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...effrey-epstein

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    Ghislaine Maxwell could start 'naming names' to prosecutors if she is found guilty of child sex trafficking charges at US court this week in a deal to cut her sentence or get better conditions in jail

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-charges.html

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