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06/05/2024 02:38 PM
#2701
Originally Posted by Alikado
They have done, they offered it in bad faith.
Who offered what in bad faith?
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06/05/2024 02:56 PM
#2702
Originally Posted by Desert Region
There you go, H - exactly as I predicted!
sGZ has given up on trying to prove he is not antisemitic by quoting Jewish
opinion differeng to my own now spreading the net to his own views.
For example Ghada Karmi known for her past antisemitic utterings
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"She adds: "The same holds true for Zionism in Palestine. Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace."
https://www.thejc.com/news/anti-isra...peace-yxjtaqv2
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06/05/2024 03:20 PM
#2703
Palestinians hold leaflets dropped by Israeli planes calling on them to evacuate ahead of an Israeli military operation in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, Monday, May 6, 2024. The order affects tens of thousands of people and could signal a broader invasion of Rafah, which Israel has identified as Hamas' last major stronghold after seven months of war. (AP Photo/Ismail Abu Dayyah)
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How many more thousands of non-combatants must be allowed to die before President Biden prevents crucial rearmament of Israel's Occupation Offense Force?
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06/05/2024 03:34 PM
#2704
An academic has claimed the "pro-Israel lobby dealt the final blow" to Jeremy Corbyn’s chances of becoming Prime Minister, adding: "Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace."
Dr Ghada Karmi – who has delivered lectures on 'conflict and peace-making' at the University of Exeter where she is a honorary research fellow – also wrote of her fears new Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer was attempting to pander to the "lobby’’ in an article for Middle East Eye.
Writing after Mr Corbyn left office on April 4, she says: "While much has been made of the capitalist establishment’s role in Corbyn’s downfall due to his socialist economics, it was the pro-Israel lobby that dealt the final blow.
"The idea that a British prime minister would one day promote the Palestinian cause to the world must have seemed the stuff of nightmares.
"Persistent campaigning by this lobby since 2016 - largely mediated by the Zionist Jewish Labour Movement, the pro-Israel Board of Deputies of British Jews and Labour Friends of Israel, and likely coordinated by the Israeli embassy - achieved its aim."
Dr Karmi – who has been a Research Associate at the School of Oriental and African Studies and Senior Visiting Fellow at the Department of Arabic and Middle Eastern Studies at Leeds University – compares Israel to Apartheid South Africa, claiming: "It was not possible to support apartheid and also black rights, and the conflict only ended with apartheid’s abolition."
She adds: "The same holds true for Zionism in Palestine. Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace."
Dr Karmi then claims Sir Keir has attempted to "win over the lobby" with his immediate apologies for Labour’s failure over antisemitism on becoming leader of the party.
She suggests he is likely to "prefer to persist with the myth of a Palestinian state living 'alongside Israel', so as to avoid confronting the true situation".
The JC has contacted Dr Karmi for comment.
In April 2017, the JC revealed Dr Karmi defended the use of term "Untermensch" - used by the Nazis to brand “inferior” non-Aryan people – a way to describe Israel's relationship with the Palestinians.
She spoke out at an anti-Israel conference after one of the main organisers of the event had told the audience that he was "profoundly uncomfortable" about the use of the word “untermensch" in a previous speech.
Dr Karmi responded: "I just felt I had to say something about the use of the word 'Untermesch'. Untermensch's equivalent in English is sub-human. And sub-human is how people in Gaza feel they are being treated by the Israeli army.’’
She continued: "We are not allowed to use words that the Nazis used as if they were true and unique only to what the Nazis did to the Jews. It is not right.
"For Palestinians I don't think they make a distinction between what happened to the Jews in Germany and what is happening to them. That is something we need to remember."
Lee Harpin April 12, 2020
©2024 The Jewish Chronicle
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06/05/2024 03:50 PM
#2705
Originally Posted by Hamble
sGZ has given up on trying to prove he is not antisemitic by quoting Jewish
opinion differeng to my own now spreading the net to his own views.
For example Ghada Karmi known for her past antisemitic utterings
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"She adds: "The same holds true for Zionism in Palestine. Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace."
As often happens, Hamble, The JC and yourself have conflated of Zionism and Judaism. Can you find a quote in which Dr. Ghada Karmi makes this error? I'll be surprised!
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06/05/2024 04:04 PM
#2706
Originally Posted by Hamble
sGZ has given up on trying to prove he is not antisemitic by quoting Jewish
opinion differeng to my own now spreading the net to his own views.
For example Ghada Karmi known for her past antisemitic utterings
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"She adds: "The same holds true for Zionism in Palestine. Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace."
https://www.thejc.com/news/anti-isra...peace-yxjtaqv2
Garda Karmi quoteS.
Anti Israel antisemitic anti Zionism not anti Hamas or PIJ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghada_Karmi
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07/05/2024 07:52 AM
#2707
One wonders how so many have gone tribal on this conflict battering their brains to see clear paths for their rhetoric.
Both side's hands are dripping with blood.
It's like two bad mothers defending their errant child to the gates of the Jail.
"He's a lovely lad just misunderstood"
It's always someone else's fault.
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07/05/2024 08:45 AM
#2708
Originally Posted by local
One wonders how so many have gone tribal on this conflict battering their brains to see clear paths for their rhetoric.
Both side's hands are dripping with blood.
It's like two bad mothers defending their errant child to the gates of the Jail.
"He's a lovely lad just misunderstood"
It's always someone else's fault.
Tell that to the victims of Radical Islamic Jihad in Britain and just hope your family does not become a victim.
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07/05/2024 12:59 PM
#2709
Originally Posted by Hamble
Tell that to the victims of Radical Islamic Jihad in Britain and just hope your family does not become a victim.
Unfortunately Hamble, people have forgotten 9/11 and endless atrocities which the UK has endured over the last 15/20 years.
Sadly, it will not get any better, if people entering the UK are not seriously interrogated…
In case Mr Zero will accuse Israel of not accepting the ceasefire fire agreement. Hamas declared they can only return 13 Israel hostages. Where are the other 100 or so.
Most are young girls ( probably pregnant)
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07/05/2024 06:03 PM
#2710
Originally Posted by shippy
Unfortunately Hamble, people have forgotten 9/11 and endless atrocities which the UK has endured over the last 15/20 years.
Sadly, it will not get any better, if people entering the UK are not seriously interrogated…
In case Mr Zero will accuse Israel of not accepting the ceasefire fire agreement. Hamas declared they can only return 13 Israel hostages. Where are the other 100 or so.
Most are young girls ( probably pregnant)
We had confusing news on the ceasefire,the media showing photo's of Palestinian's celebrating what they thought was an end to the war.
Turns out Egypt and Qatar sent 'a deal' to Hamas which Israel did not agree to.
Hamas accepted.
The torture continues for hostages and their famalies.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-b1155941.html
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08/05/2024 07:59 AM
#2711
Hamas fighters used earth-moving equipment to breach the border fence between Gaza and Israel on Saturday, allowing more than 1,500 fighters to surge through nearly 30 points along the border.Credit: Mohammed Fayq Abu Mostafa/Reuters
Hamas broke through the barrier. The IDF flooded into Gaza sealing the de facto single state from the River Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea.
The struggle is transformed into one for full civil and political rights for the Arab population.
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08/05/2024 09:01 AM
#2712
Originally Posted by Hamble
We had confusing news on the ceasefire,the media showing photo's of Palestinian's celebrating what they thought was an end to the war.
Turns out Egypt and Qatar sent 'a deal' to Hamas which Israel did not agree to.
Hamas accepted.
The torture continues for hostages and their famalies.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-b1155941.html
The deal that the US and yourself were touting that it only needed Hamas to agree to.
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08/05/2024 09:22 AM
#2713
Originally Posted by Alikado
The deal that the US and yourself were touting that it only needed Hamas to agree to.
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Like a lot of your posts they are just mendacious never backed up with proof .
7 Days ago when Hamas was sent a ceasefire deal brokered byIsrael,USA,Egypt and Qatar.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...should-take-it
Hamas rejected the deal,accepted one Israel did not agree to, bombed the newly opened aid crossing from Israel killed 4 Israeli soldiers severely injured 11 others.
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08/05/2024 10:12 AM
#2714
Originally Posted by Hamble
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Like a lot of your posts they are just mendacious never backed up with proof .
7 Days ago when Hamas was sent a ceasefire deal brokered byIsrael,USA,Egypt and Qatar.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...should-take-it
Hamas rejected the deal,accepted one Israel did not agree to, bombed the newly opened aid crossing from Israel killed 4 Israeli soldiers severely injured 11 others.
You provided the proof, the link.
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08/05/2024 10:26 AM
#2715
Originally Posted by Alikado
You provided the proof, the link.
Post it then!
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