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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
Ha ha I know where you are but I would never disclose to anyone where anyone lives …
Your concern for property values is admirable …
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Originally Posted by Stuartli
What a big word and something at which you've consistently proved an expert.
How the BH do you or anyone else know what people living in any particular area might want or not want?
Unlike you, I and most people commenting on such subjects in this forum rarely interfere in plans or ideas for other districts of the town - those who live there generally know best about what is or is not required.
Somewhat different from you, who doesn't even live in the town but several miles away. It's really none of your business or concern.
In fact, Stuart, the PNP has mentioned before (as he's volunteered later on this thread) that he moved from 'on the moss' to a PR9 address. He mentioned that a while ago, perhaps last year, in response to a poster on a thread on the news forum who'd been making a very similar point to the one you've put. Furthermore, as best as I recall, the PNP hinted that he'd moved very close to Southport town centre itself.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
In fact, Stuart, the PNP has mentioned before (as he's volunteered later on this thread) that he moved from 'on the moss' to a PR9 address. He mentioned that a while ago, perhaps last year, in response to a poster on a thread on the news forum who'd been making a very similar point to the one you've put. Furthermore, as best as I recall, the PNP hinted that he'd moved very close to Southport town centre itself.
Doesn't ring a bell with me. Not that I'm the slightest bit interested....
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
In fact, Stuart, the PNP has mentioned before (as he's volunteered later on this thread) that he moved from 'on the moss' to a PR9 address. He mentioned that a while ago, perhaps last year, in response to a poster on a thread on the news forum who'd been making a very similar point to the one you've put. Furthermore, as best as I recall, the PNP hinted that he'd moved very close to Southport town centre itself.
True, except that I'm not that close to the town centre.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
True, except that I'm not that close to the town centre.
This is getting like a party game of 'Pin the tail on the donkey' !
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this is getting like a party game of 'pin the tail on the donkey' !
roflmao
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Originally Posted by Alikado
This is getting like a party game of 'Pin the tail on the donkey' !
Oh, you've delighted the PNP with that!
He's been called an 'a*s' on this forum a great many times but he's been waiting all his life to be called 'like a donkey'!
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Originally Posted by Alikado
This is getting like a party game of 'Pin the tail on the donkey' !
Eek - never noticed it was missing!
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How can we have a policy based on Nimby surveys?
Personally, I would like my road and the routes I go on closed except for me and people I give permission to.
Asking individual roads/areas just transfers things they don't want to their neighbors.
The policy should be about the benefit for everyone including visitors who our town relies on for so much of its income/jobs.
Its salami-slicing democracy to its death.
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Originally Posted by Stuartli
Doesn't ring a bell with me. Not that I'm the slightest bit interested....
I'm not the type to divulge extra and you're not a bit interested...
Originally Posted by The PNP
C) Your info is way out of date, mate. I'm a PR9'er, with full voting rights etc, and have been for some years now, though I rarely disclose that fact in conversation. In reality, only the works yard itself remains on The Moss.
A business-owning, registered voter.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
A) I may not have a radar gun, but there's an obvious difference between 20mph and 40mph!
Also, people (visitors) who come into town shouldn't be taking their cars down the residential streets in question. They should follow the signage and keep to the main routes in/out of town.
B) Everyones journey is equally important. The little kid on his hand-me-down bike, has every bit as much right to get about safely, as the bigshot in his shiny new Rolls. For too long, the money has all been spent on improving roads for the motorist. So much so, he has come to believe everything should go his way. Howl as he might about it, a levelling-up process is now underway.
C) Yes, general traffic should stick to the routes provided. Using residential streets as overspill routes for rat-running is not on. It makes these areas unsafe, increases noise/vibration and raises exhaust pollution levels where people live. If there's so much traffic coming into town, that it has to resort to residential rat-running, I wouldn't worry about there being no footfall.
Sod that for a lark old bean.
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Originally Posted by steve
roflmao
Yes, well ok -jdpy.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
A business-owning, registered voter.
Correct.....I receive my polling card like everyone else in Southport.
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Proposal to block off Roads and Streets in Southport to create Liveable Neighbourhood
Originally Posted by roving-eye
Sefton Council are proposing to block off at least thirteen Roads and Streets in Southport to create what they call a Liveable Neighbourhood.
The affected area is the Roads and Streets surrounded by Eastbank Street, Scarisbrick New Road, Ash Street, Cemetery Road, Upper Aughton Road, Aughton Road, Lord Street West and Lord Street.
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Key elements in promoting the public acceptability of sustainable mobility |
Information |
Education, awareness campaigns, and promotion through media and social pressure are an essential starting point
Explanation of the need for sustainable mobility, emphasising the positive economic, social and health benefits to the individual and businesses |
Involvement and communication |
The process must be inclusive, with clear aims and an understanding of the consequences to those on whom the strategy will impact
Designed to gain support and understanding, so that stakeholders can buy into the proposals Raise levels of consistency between expectations and outcomes |
Packaging |
Push and pull policies measures need to be combined in mutually supporting packages. Policies restricting car use or raising its costs should be accompanied by well-publicised programmes to improve the availability and attractiveness of alternatives to driving alone, including car pooling, public transport, cycling and walking, all financed by dedicated revenues from car pricing measures |
Selling the benefits |
It is necessary to widely publicize the benefits, even if there are costs, inconvenience and sacrifice. Car drivers support funding of alternative modes to reduce congestion on the roads they drive on. Overweight or obese individuals would directly benefit from better walking and cycling conditions. Everyone benefits from cleaner air and safer traffic conditions. More walking, cycling and public transport use would help relieve parking shortages. These are important and direct impacts that all individuals can support |
Adopt controversial policies in stages |
Support needs to be built up in terms of positive outcomes and measurable improvements in the quality of life Politics is about reflecting prevailing preferences and also forming opinions Acceptance of responsibilities and commitment to change through actions is the key to success |
Consistency between different measures and policy sectors |
Some measures (e.g. pricing) that are common to all futures. Such measures need to be implemented now, even though their impacts may not be immediate
Regulations, standards, subsidies and tax incentives should all be used to encourage manufacturers and other transport suppliers to develop and adopt the most energy efficient and environmentally friendly technology possible
The precautionary principle should be followed, particularly on the global warming effects of transport emissions, and actions should be consistent over the longer term
Many of the problems created for the transport system do not emanate from the transport sector, but from other sectors. So a more holistic perspective is needed that integrates decision-making across sectors and widens the public discourse |
Adaptability |
Decisions today should not unnecessarily restrict the scope for future decisions, so that the adaptive behaviour of individuals and agencies can be assessed
There is no prescription or blueprint for the correct procedures to follow. Each situation requires separate analysis and implementation, including flexibility to change policy measures if intentions and outcomes do not match up. Assessment of risk and reversibility are both strong components of sustainable mobility
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
Ooh no. We don't want our neighbourhoods to be liveable. Down with that sort of thing.
I was born and bred in Southport and have lived in my home 50 years so I think it is liveable I might have noticed before now. Why not close off the Formby bypass and all other routes from Bootle to Southport you lot are aliens anyway I'd be happy if you stayed in Bootle.
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