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Originally Posted by Alikado
Remember the case is in US Courts, he hasn't got a cat in hells chance of coming out of this unscathed, he is irretrievably wounded now and I suspect the whole Royal Family is.
Yea we have influence there I bet and with the right defence lawyers he could pull it off, stranger things have happened. I can see he has definitely technically committed a crime in the Virgin Islands but well stranger things have happened than him getting off with this all one way or another .
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
Yea we have influence there I bet and with the right defence lawyers he could pull it off, stranger things have happened. I can see he has definitely technically committed a crime in the Virgin Islands but well stranger things have happened than him getting off with this all one way or another .
It's 'technically' a crime, it is a crime.
She was trafficked under the age of majority so it is a crime.
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
Yea we have influence there I bet and with the right defence lawyers he could pull it off, stranger things have happened. I can see he has definitely technically committed a crime in the Virgin Islands but well stranger things have happened than him getting off with this all one way or another .
Why on earth would anyone (other than his legal team) want to defend this disgusting nonce?
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I find him nauseating but would still like him to be "done" for what he has actually done and have the whole enabling nest exposed.
Too many are keeping quiet who know exactly what went on.
From his taxpayer supplied security to the staff of Epstein, the girls who were of age and went regularly and recruited others etc.
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Originally Posted by local
I find him nauseating but would still like him to be "done" for what he has actually done and have the whole enabling nest exposed.
Too many are keeping quiet who know exactly what went on.
From his taxpayer supplied security to the staff of Epstein, the girls who were of age and went regularly and recruited others etc.
Nothing will happen! There is no way he will ever become a commoner no matter how many titles he is stripped of. This sort of activity has been going on almost since time began - it will not stop because the media have identified a few perpetrators.
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Why on earth would anyone (other than his legal team) want to defend this disgusting nonce?
He is only charged with assault and battery, she let him shag her in 2 places in the World where it was legal age and another after that where he was a few months short of the local laws, now if he had assaulted and battered her do you think she would have tagged along for a third session, or was she ok with it in London and New York where it was legal and suddenly not in the British Virgin Islands?. If she was 17 and he had already shagged her twice then suddenly he is a nonce that assaulted and battered her I think that’s a bad case, she was a masseuse .. if you don’t know or haven’t worked it out yet that means prostitute AND she was paid 15 grand .
But now 20 years later …. It’s obvious he did shag her and that’s where the lie is but assault ? Batter ? Nonce ?, no I am not buying that .. I think he will win his case . After 20 yrs, ….a masseuse that was trafficked no, a prostitute that was passed around for favours and leverage is how I read it.
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
He is only charged with assault and battery, she let him shag her in 2 places in the World where it was legal age and another after that where he was a few months short of the local laws, now if he had assaulted and battered her do you think she would have tagged along for a third session, or was she ok with it in London and New York where it was legal and suddenly not in the British Virgin Islands?. If she was 17 and he had already shagged her twice then suddenly he is a nonce that assaulted and battered her I think that’s a bad case, she was a masseuse .. if you don’t know or haven’t worked it out yet that means prostitute AND she was paid 15 grand .
But now 20 years later …. It’s obvious he did shag her and that’s where the lie is but assault ? Batter ? Nonce ?, no I am not buying that .. I think he will win his case . After 20 yrs, ….a masseuse that was trafficked no, a prostitute that was passed around for favours and leverage is how I read it.
You might find it helpful to actually read up on the case. Most of what you’ve written above is absolute rubbish.
He “shagged” a minor who had been trafficked for sex. He’s a nonce. End of. Albeit a royal nonce.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
It's 'technically' a crime, it is a crime.
She was trafficked under the age of majority so it is a crime.
Technically a crime yes technically .
In London and New York she is just a prostitute but in Virgin Islands an under age masseuse / prostitute that was working for a trafficker and keeping him happy and eventually shared at the right time right location (where suddenly she is underage / it stinks that tho) for favours and leverage that now wants to maximise her position by accusing a prince in high profile and yea technically you could say she was underage and trafficked and if she throws in assault and battery he is done for.
That’s how I see it but if I am wrong ( and I could be ) and he suddenly turned into a monster on the 3rd shag in a place where she was just underage and he was suddenly now assaulting and battering her as well as forcing himself and 15 grand on her then he should be reprimanded yea . . But no. I think a judge would see through this it’s whether the public wants to tho .
Technically tho yea he is guilty but it stinks ..
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Originally Posted by donkey22
You might find it helpful to actually read up on the case. Most of what you’ve written above is absolute rubbish.
He “shagged” a minor who had been trafficked for sex. He’s a nonce. End of. Albeit a royal nonce.
I understand he shagged her in 2 places that was legal and one that was a few months outside legality, I believe he was tricked for influence and leverage and now is being milked 20 yrs later he is only being charged with assault. He is not a nonce in London or New York but technically one in Virgin Islands but suddenly a monster no, a Big pudding is what he is that got tricked by shrewd folk and a prostitute that’s now trying to milk him.
Technically guilty they did a good job on him, like I said he is more a pudding than a monster. On these facts .
It’s a bit insulting of you once again to imply I have not read up on this before commenting and that whatever I comment on about anything is rubbish, again I just think that’s you being a total argumentative prick, you will see I have commented facts and agree technically that he is guilty but find it all dubious and him unlikely to be suddenly a monster, if he is tho I hope he gets his comeuppance of course.
Just because you fared not too well arguing on bicycle threads you shouldn’t as you have been doing troll me across all other threads negatively. What next will you be picking on my impeccable grammar again next while making mistakes all the way yourself, I have to thank you tho I used to spell loser as looser now I spell it loooo ooossseer when I think of you .
Last edited by MICK/GILLY; 17/01/2022 at 01:10 AM.
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
I understand he shagged her in 2 places that was legal and one that was a few months outside legality, I believe he was tricked for influence and leverage and now is being milked 20 yrs later he is only being charged with assault. He is not a nonce in London or New York but technically one in Virgin Islands but suddenly a monster no, a Big pudding is what he is that got tricked by shrewd folk and a prostitute that’s now trying to milk him.
Technically guilty they did a good job on him, like I said he is more a pudding than a monster. On these facts .
Wrong again. You really are a dense prick. You obviously haven’t read up on it. Assault is a criminal charge. This is a civil case. He’s not defending any criminal charges. The civil case is regarding sex with a trafficked minor, which he is highly likely to lose. He’ll be a nonce wherever he goes. There’s no escaping from it. Crossing international borders won’t make him innocent again. You’re starting to sound like a nonce protector. Hmmm I wonder why?
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Wrong again. You really are a dense prick. You obviously haven’t read up on it. Assault is a criminal charge. This is a civil case. He’s not defending any criminal charges. The civil case is regarding sex with a trafficked minor, which he is highly likely to lose. He’ll be a nonce wherever he goes. There’s no escaping from it. Crossing international borders won’t make him innocent again. You’re starting to sound like a nonce protector. Hmmm I wonder why?
Yea well like I say you have never anything good to say or comment on what I comment on it’s always a fight with a stubborn jacka5s that likes looooosing I refer you to my quote that you used and for you to read it again properly if you can. I don’t know if she can prove any of what she is saying and he is not a nonce until convicted and you are not the judge and the circumstances if true are dubious but if you did read you will see I agree technically he is at least in one part of the world guilty IF PROVEN, and if so he should be reprimanded if he forced himself on her the 3rd time with 15 grand but It’s not as crystal clear as drug testing a delivery driver it’s more difficult to prove and just saying stuff doesn’t make it so. And crossing borders won’t make him innocent they made him guilty if you read properly but only on a technicality unless he was violent and proven to be but you would think she wouldn’t have slept with him a 3rd time if that was the case, she was 17 within the age of consent in the Uk and at the time in New York a masseuse and a prostitute and that’s quite the opposite of being trafficked she knew what she was doing and this will be relevant to the case do get your facts right if you can focus .
Anyway let’s see what the judge says, you have already decide his fate with no proof, if there is proof of him being a violent monster then yea fair enough whatever age she was But as it stands IF there is proof he is only guilty in the Virgin Islands of sex with suddenly now a minor who was a masseuse and a 15 grand prostitute and she wouldn’t be a minor in the Uk or at that time New York so technically guilty like I said .
I am not a nonce protector but this is not so clear cut with no evidence and everything about it is dubious and stinks of manipulation for leverage and now 20 yrs later for financial gain.
But I am not like you a stubborn burro estupido I have the ability to be wrong and if I am and there is evidence then he should be reprimanded and if found innocent he should get all his patronages back. Lucky you are not the judge you wouldn’t need evidence you are so high .. and mighty .
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
Yea well like I say you have never anything good to say or comment on what I comment on it’s always a fight with a stubborn jacka5s that likes looooosing I refer you to my quote that you used and for you to read it again properly if you can. I don’t know if she can prove any of what she is saying and he is not a nonce until convicted and you are not the judge and the circumstances if true are dubious but if you did read you will see I agree technically he is at least in one part of the world guilty IF PROVEN, and if so he should be reprimanded if he forced himself on her the 3rd time with 15 grand but It’s not as crystal clear as drug testing a delivery driver it’s more difficult to prove and just saying stuff doesn’t make it so. And crossing borders won’t make him innocent they made him guilty if you read properly but only on a technicality unless he was violent and proven to be but you would think she wouldn’t have slept with him a 3rd time if that was the case, she was 17 within the age of consent in the Uk and at the time in New York a masseuse and a prostitute and that’s quite the opposite of being trafficked she knew what she was doing and this will be relevant to the case do get your facts right if you can focus .
Anyway let’s see what the judge says, you have already decide his fate with no proof, if there is proof of him being a violent monster then yea fair enough whatever age she was But as it stands IF there is proof he is only guilty in the Virgin Islands of sex with suddenly now a minor who was a masseuse and a 15 grand prostitute and she wouldn’t be a minor in the Uk or at that time New York so technically guilty like I said .
I am not a nonce protector but this is not so clear cut with no evidence and everything about it is dubious and stinks of manipulation for leverage and now 20 yrs later for financial gain.
But I am not like you a stubborn burro estupido I have the ability to be wrong and if I am and there is evidence then he should be reprimanded and if found innocent he should get all his patronages back. Lucky you are not the judge you wouldn’t need evidence you are so high .. and mighty .
I tell you what then Mick, go away and come back with just one source that states he is up in court facing a charge which includes violence that is going to return a not guilty/guilty verdict. Just one will do, then we can carry on this discussion.
You haven’t got a clue what this all about. Thick twunt.
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It is clear that Virginia Guiffre has let's say some questionable history, if it ever makes the courts there will be some interesting evidence.
Can't think of any defence for him to be having sex with a girl on whatever month on either side of her birthday at that age.
But the law has to have a date and that makes her case.
I see a streetwise young woman freely doing what many have done and will be doing today.
He is a grade A idiot who needs a long spell in the real world.
Even now he is stuck in a castle not a bedsit in Bootle.
I strongly object to her being considered in the same breath as girls actually trafficked and living horrendous lives in brothels around the world including here.
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Originally Posted by local
It is clear that Virginia Guiffre has let's say some questionable history, if it ever makes the courts there will be some interesting evidence.
Can't think of any defence for him to be having sex with a girl on whatever month on either side of her birthday at that age.
But the law has to have a date and that makes her case.
I see a streetwise young woman freely doing what many have done and will be doing today.
He is a grade A idiot who needs a long spell in the real world.
Even now he is stuck in a castle not a bedsit in Bootle.
I strongly object to her being considered in the same breath as girls actually trafficked and living horrendous lives in brothels around the world including here.
She may appear now to be 'StreetWise' but that could be a result of the grooming and is probably greatly influenced by the Lawyers.
What will be interesting is what Maxwell has to say, she hasn't been sentenced yet, there may be a lot more to come out and more implicated.
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