Putin

[bensherman]

Let's be clear.

He is not some master strategist, playing one off against another.

He is a fabulously wealthy thug. His tactics amount to no more than the protection racket gangsters who suggest to a shopkeeper that it would "Be a shame if these windows got broken".

The claim that 130,000 troops are at the border on a training exercise insults the intelligence. At the same time as he has submitted a treaty to the west planning to prevent Ukraine ever joining NATO.

Perhaps he has over-reacted to the absence of his friend Trump

He has done enormous harm to the west through other means. Trump, Brexit and the corruption at the heart of our government all down to his network and the massive amounts of money stolen from the Russian people years ago.

I don't know how he will be stopped,

[The PNP]

Agree - We need another Boris Yeltsin to sort him out!

[carliol]

Wealthy thug yes, but I think Putin does have a strategy. Not sure what it is but he has the west and Nato guessing. Hitler used similar tactics by claiming support in the Sudetenland, then Austria etc.but that was before Nato.

[local]

Quite bizarre how does Trump come into it?

If Trump was his mate then why didn't he move in when Trump was in power?

Putin is emboldened by China and thought his opportunity had come with a weak Biden and distracted politicians around the world not least because so many rely on Russias energy.

The alleged corruption in our government has been challenged a few times by the Oxymoron Good Law Project run by a politically driven NHS fund robber.

As for that old Chestnut Brexit even Keir Starmers had a rethink isn't it time for you to catch up and stop repeating the lies you have fell for?

[bensherman]

Quite bizarre how does Trump come into it?

If Trump was his mate then why didn't he move in when Trump was in power?

Putin is emboldened by China and thought his opportunity had come with a weak Biden and distracted politicians around the world not least because so many rely on Russias energy.

The alleged corruption in our government has been challenged a few times by the Oxymoron Good Law Project run by a politically driven NHS fund robber.

As for that old Chestnut Brexit even Keir Starmers had a rethink isn't it time for you to catch up and stop repeating the lies you have fell for?

Putin was busy enough during Trump's time with the Crimea amongst other things.

"Alleged corruption"...the Good Law project only attacked the PPE contracts which were declared UNLAWFUL. Since then the Hancock appointments have also been declared UNLAWFUL in another case and not involving the Good Law institution.

But those, egregious as they are, are as but an ice cube on the Everest of corruption , which it would appear you are unaware of. Patterson was just a passing example. The change of the law in 2011 which allowed Russians to contribute to the Tory party ( and my , have they; why do you think they did that?)..£50k to play tennis with Johnson...we could be here for days going through them all.

Any idea why for years now London has been widely viewed as the money-launderers mecca ? And why NOTHING has been done about it?

Any idea why the inquiry into Russian influence was suppressed here over 2 years ago?

As for Starmer, I disagree with him. He is being pragmatic. I know if he came out with an outright rejection of Brexit he would be crucified by the media. I still wish he would because at least 16m people would like that.

I suspect his game will be to get another referendum, given that 56% of the public want one, and if that happens we will be back in , in a year.

By the way do have a look at the British Chambers of Commerce report on the effects of Brexit on its members.
https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/n...-eu-trade-deal
but what would they know, eh?

[local]

Nope, Starmer has gone full circle he now sees the opportunities of Brexit.

You have as previously mentioned misunderstood the court's findings on the corruption allegations.

You are also I notice silent on the robber of the poor, the nhs and government services who runs the so-called "good law project"

As we all know except you the Russian influence is minimal it's the Chinese who are the problem and have already been exposed for long standing support of an MP.

[bensherman]

Nope, Starmer has gone full circle he now sees the opportunities of Brexit.

No he has not and no he doesn't. Perhaps you could fill him in. Starmer is unnecessarily wary of the "Blue Wall" voters, but by the time of any election they will be so clear Johnson's conned them he shouldn't worry.

You have as previously mentioned misunderstood the court's findings on the corruption allegations.
Nope, it is as I said. And as others have said.
You are also I notice silent on the robber of the poor, the nhs and government services who runs the so-called "good law project"
Not really bothered who ran it. The result is what counts. As has the second one on appointments, which had nothing to do with the GLP

As we all know except you the Russian influence is minimal it's the Chinese who are the problem and have already been exposed for long standing support of an MP.

The other way around. The Russian influence is widely controversial. I gave specific examples you do not refer to. And they have funded a number of Tory MPs too. The Chinese example is wrong, but ONE. And was terminated, while the Tories carry on. Indeed the party treasurer is Russian.

You are living in some kind of bubble.

[jamyramy]

yeh oh yeh .like we can entrust our nations to those presently our government and leadership and msm..your being played!

[local]

Putin was busy enough during Trump's time with the Crimea amongst other things.

"Alleged corruption"...the Good Law project only attacked the PPE contracts which were declared UNLAWFUL. Since then the Hancock appointments have also been declared UNLAWFUL in another case and not involving the Good Law institution.

But those, egregious as they are, are as but an ice cube on the Everest of corruption , which it would appear you are unaware of. Patterson was just a passing example. The change of the law in 2011 which allowed Russians to contribute to the Tory party ( and my , have they; why do you think they did that?)..£50k to play tennis with Johnson...we could be here for days going through them all.

Any idea why for years now London has been widely viewed as the money-launderers mecca ? And why NOTHING has been done about it?

Any idea why the inquiry into Russian influence was suppressed here over 2 years ago?

As for Starmer, I disagree with him. He is being pragmatic. I know if he came out with an outright rejection of Brexit he would be crucified by the media. I still wish he would because at least 16m people would like that.

I suspect his game will be to get another referendum, given that 56% of the public want one, and if that happens we will be back in , in a year.

By the way do have a look at the British Chambers of Commerce report on the effects of Brexit on its members.
https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/n...-eu-trade-deal
but what would they know, eh?

Is there any chance you could spend a few minutes looking up what unlawful means
Then perhaps the findings of the court?

I do realise it's not obvious but it might help you understand.

[Little Londoner]

Local
"unlawful" means go ahead and do it we'll sort the law out later. I'm surprised you didn't know that being a Tory where do you think the writers of Monty Python got "nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean squire" from The Tory louts at Cambridge and Oxford.

[local]

Local
"unlawful" means go ahead and do it we'll sort the law out later. I'm surprised you didn't know that being a Tory where do you think the writers of Monty Python got "nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean squire" from The Tory louts at Cambridge and Oxford.

I'm not sure actually writing that was your finest idea.

[bensherman]

Is there any chance you could spend a few minutes looking up what unlawful means
Then perhaps the findings of the court?

I do realise it's not obvious but it might help you understand.

I've done both.

[local]

I've done both.

Do you need some help understanding?

I could provide you with some helpful links to explain things for you.

[said]

Local
"unlawful" means go ahead and do it we'll sort the law out later. I'm surprised you didn't know that being a Tory where do you think the writers of Monty Python got "nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean squire" from The Tory louts at Cambridge and Oxford.

Best we don't mention Labour then isn't it? Hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed, people lost faith totally in the British government the UK viewed as corrupt right across the World, the BBC changed into government sycophants. One man alone murdered thousands and dragged the whole country into disrepute for his own greed. I have not seen Putin go that far.

[said]

Let's be clear.

He is not some master strategist, playing one off against another.

He is a fabulously wealthy thug. His tactics amount to no more than the protection racket gangsters who suggest to a shopkeeper that it would "Be a shame if these windows got broken".

The claim that 130,000 troops are at the border on a training exercise insults the intelligence. At the same time as he has submitted a treaty to the west planning to prevent Ukraine ever joining NATO.

Perhaps he has over-reacted to the absence of his friend Trump

He has done enormous harm to the west through other means. Trump, Brexit and the corruption at the heart of our government all down to his network and the massive amounts of money stolen from the Russian people years ago.

I don't know how he will be stopped,

February 2015, based on new domestic polling, Putin was ranked the world's most popular politician.

"A joint poll by World Public Opinion in the US and Levada Center ^[7] in Russia around June–July 2006 stated that "neither the Russian nor the American publics are convinced Russia is headed in an anti-democratic direction" and "Russians generally support Putin's concentration of political power and strongly support the re-nationalization of Russia's oil and gas industry." Russians generally support the political course of Putin and his team.^[8] A 2005 survey showed that three times as many Russians felt the country was "more democratic" under Putin than it was during the Yeltsin or Gorbachev years, and the same proportion thought human rights were better under Putin than Yeltsin"

You never get the truth from the USA -