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Originally Posted by said
There is no need to refer to anyone as being different in any way. They are either good people or not.
Apart from when you refuse to go near Turkish barbers, Thai massage, etc etc.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Apart from when you refuse to go near Turkish barbers, Thai massage, etc etc.
Yes. That dry humour sort of went over your head, didn't it?
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Originally Posted by Darkside
We are all coloured people and/or people of colour. My personal colour varies from pink with freckles in summer to pale blue in winter, by no means a lovely shade of brown, but I am nevertheless very definitely coloured.
Some British people have a preference for orange coloured skin too.
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Originally Posted by said
Some British people have a preference for orange coloured skin too.
When I worked in the military in the Middle East in the 80s we were known as 'red men'.
However, as red men we were not deemed to be in anyway inferior, and were not disciminated against.
But, the fact is that when 'colored ' was commonly used, those so described were.
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Originally Posted by seivad
I wouldn't say his language was at worst unfortunate. I would call it disrespectful. When referring to a woman who will shortly occupy the second highest position in the Executive Branch of the most powerful country in the world, if anyone believes it's acceptable to reduce her to a single word based on one of her parent's ethnicity, they don't belong in a political position which requires the use of a little thing called diplomacy.
By virtue of her being the VP Elect, her career in the Senate and as the Attorney General for the State of California, Kamala Harris deserves a little more than being defined as 'the Indian'. He was on Twitter and could easily have Googled 'Joe Biden's VP'. He obviously didn't think it was worth the bother.
And why didn't he use the obvious, perfectly acceptable and commonly used alternative by using her official job title? : 'What happens if Biden moves on and the Vice President becomes President? Who then becomes Vice President?'
I have no idea if this man is racist or not. I am 100% certain that he's dismissive of a woman in such a high office.
Not really - I do not think he was being intentionally disrespectful. Ms. Harris has spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of the family. She was in India for much of her early life and was strongly influenced by her Indian grandfather. Ms. Harris became familiar with Hinduism and attended a Hindu Temple with her mother. Ms. Harris has technically identified herself as being Indian.
It is not Ms.Harris's colour which gives rise to queries about her suitability for such a position and questionable popularity among the American people.
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Originally Posted by said
Not really - I do not think he was being intentionally disrespectful. Ms. Harris has spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of the family. She was in India for much of her early life and was strongly influenced by her Indian grandfather. Ms. Harris became familiar with Hinduism and attended a Hindu Temple with her mother. Ms. Harris has technically identified herself as being Indian.
It is not Ms.Harris's colour which gives rise to queries about her suitability for such a position and questionable popularity among the American people.
You are right he wasn't being intentionally disrespectful, he is ingrained with such bigotry it is just natural to him.
Her mother has been in the US since her teens, Kamala was born and educated in the US, have you any links to back up your usual horse*****?
What is it that raises questions about her suitability for VP and why is her popularity questionable, surely if she wasn't popular Biden wouldn't have been elected?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
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Originally Posted by said
Not really - I do not think he was being intentionally disrespectful. Ms. Harris has spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of the family. She was in India for much of her early life and was strongly influenced by her Indian grandfather. Ms. Harris became familiar with Hinduism and attended a Hindu Temple with her mother. Ms. Harris has technically identified herself as being Indian.
It is not Ms.Harris's colour which gives rise to queries about her suitability for such a position and questionable popularity among the American people.
Kamala Harris was born in California and therefore American.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Kamala Harris was born in California and therefore American.
Am I right in understanding that both her parents were born "British" in the real sense of the word? India was part of the British Empire, where her Mum was born, as was Jamaica where her Dad was born. She might well call herself a British-American?
Age is simply a matter of mind - age doesn't matter if you don't mind
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Originally Posted by said
Not really - I do not think he was being intentionally disrespectful. Ms. Harris has spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of the family. She was in India for much of her early life and was strongly influenced by her Indian grandfather. Ms. Harris became familiar with Hinduism and attended a Hindu Temple with her mother. Ms. Harris has technically identified herself as being Indian.
It is not Ms.Harris's colour which gives rise to queries about her suitability for such a position and questionable popularity among the American people.
She went to Thousand Oaks Elementary School, age 12 moved to Quebec where she went to Notre-Dame-des-Neiges & Westmount High School.
She did indeed visit a Hindu Temple in Oakland California!
She visited Madras several times as a child, hardly 'much of her early life'
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Originally Posted by Hector
When I worked in the military in the Middle East in the 80s we were known as 'red men'.
However, as red men we were not deemed to be in anyway inferior, and were not disciminated against.
But, the fact is that when 'colored ' was commonly used, those so described were.
Ha!Ha! I can imagine that. But after your tan became established, were you all referred to the same?
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Kamala Harris was born in California and therefore American.
Absolutely. Just as Obama was born in Honolulu.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
You are right he wasn't being intentionally disrespectful, he is ingrained with such bigotry it is just natural to him.
Her mother has been in the US since her teens, Kamala was born and educated in the US, have you any links to back up your usual horse*****?
What is it that raises questions about her suitability for VP and why is her popularity questionable, surely if she wasn't popular Biden wouldn't have been elected?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
My usual horse **** came from the very link you have published - did you not read it?
As for Mr. Taylor - he also insulted one of his own countrymen by inferring he was English? Mr.Taylor is an Ulsterman. If I go over to Northern Ireland I receive the same type of abuse - I am absolutely not bothered because I give back what I receive. (Their intolerance of English people has more to do with history) That is how it always was and I am completely familiar with it. Now we come to the point as to who is 'offended'? Is it the person to whom the comment is made, or is it to the woke people listening in?
As a white person, I have received abuse from a Chinese person. To you - this would have been 'racial' - to me it was a matter of discussing just how and why I was singled out. The incident was easily sorted and forgotten about without any ill feelings. If that person had confronted me with a two handled sword of war, it would have been different - but verbal??
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Originally Posted by gsgsgs
She went to Thousand Oaks Elementary School, age 12 moved to Quebec where she went to Notre-Dame-des-Neiges & Westmount High School.
She did indeed visit a Hindu Temple in Oakland California!
She visited Madras several times as a child, hardly 'much of her early life'
True - she was taught Hinduism by her mother to whom she was closest, and was strongly influenced by her mother's father. (Her own father had divorced her mother when she was twelve.) But that is one explanation as to why someone may identify her as being Indian, do you not think?
Although personally, she calls herself African/American after her father's lineage.
Colour, Creed, background nor intellectual ability have anything to do with becoming a President in the USA - it is purely money. Biden was a known figurehead. Ms. Harris a complete outsider. She would have to be introduced to the American public before she could be put forward for the President's position - which being ambitious, she desires above everything else. (As published in an article in Macleans Publishing) Ms Harris is supported by both Obama, who himself is supported by the Kennedy's) and Hilary Clinton as well as the Getty family and Soros. * Her personal financial position is not clear but she does has more money than Biden
* You will need to read this which is supported by a number of other publications - but I have yet to confirm the details
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/11/1...all-the-shots/
also.................
https://www.zeebiz.com/india/news-me...senator-139398
https://www.politico.eu/article/kama...-need-to-know/
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Originally Posted by Derek H
Am I right in understanding that both her parents were born "British" in the real sense of the word? India was part of the British Empire, where her Mum was born, as was Jamaica where her Dad was born. She might well call herself a British-American?
Nationality as being an American Citizen is crucial in politics to run for president.
Ethnic heritage is a personal issue for the owner to state.
I have never heard of India born people claiming they are British by Nationality under Colonialism.
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The rise of Kamala might be the most interesting part of the new administration she is bright and no shrinking violet.
The support act for the past it pensioner might be something she doesn't take to.
I think she could be the one interesting thing to come out of Trump defeating himself.
I shall watch her with interest.
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