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    [QUOTE=Toodles McGinty;6692234][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][FONT=verdana]

    Nothing wrong with tinned sardines. Except most come from Morocco. Well, the sea, but you know what I mean. Through a trade deal with the EU. So they might not be as readily available as you think. For a while at least.

    I think we all know the processes by which food comes into Britain, how much we produce ourselves and how a no-deal Brexit would interrupt the supply chain. Farmers have been particularly vocal this week, frustrated by the possibility of losing a lot, or even their livelihoods. The whole thing has been covered exhaustively.

    So when someone shouts about growing carrots half a mile away, that's great. Except the major stores don't get all their goods from that field. Tesco - fresh carrots 'Packed in the U.K., Produce of the U.K.IrelandFranceSpain'. Field to plate isn't that simple. We grow them, we don't grow enough. Cauliflower is apparently in short supply. Not because of Brexit, but because of the weather over the recent growing season. Doesn't matter, as we can just get some from whichever country. Except we might not. For a while.

    I'm not saying the UK is going to starve, or there'll be apocalyptic scenes down the veg aisle at Lidl. Just wondering if we are prepared to go short on things for a while.


    Why not? It is just what budding entrepreneurs need-find a need and provide a service.

    Growing one's own food if possible.
    Bartering.

    It will be just like a Common Market before we had to pay another country to run it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    This makes me chuckle when you read this;

    It's good to know that the thick as mince brexshitters won't be stockpiling. They should be the first to starve.


    and liked by the usual suspects, Ceam, Toodles McGinty
    Made me laugh too particularly when you look at the 'Remain' Leadership
    they are prepared to elect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post

    Why not? It is just what budding entrepreneurs need-find a need and provide a service.

    Growing one's own food if possible.
    Bartering.

    It will be just like a Common Market before we had to pay another country to run it.
    Where are 'budding entrepreneurs' going to get this food? Smuggling? Black market black puddings?

    What food are you going to grow between now and, say, November? Cress? We've had this nonsense since 2016. If commercial agriculture hasn't grown enough food for us since then, what is the average flat-dweller or even semi-detached with a decent sized garden going to do? I've got parsley, thyme and rosemary on my kitchen windowsill. Not going to get far with that.

    You are right, though. With the right deal (which probably isn't going to happen) we could be right back before we joined the EEC. Not a great prospect, hence us joining it. But we could have the freedom of more expensive food through a deal, or much more expensive food through the WTO. On the positive side, it might stop all that 'food bank' nonsense, eh? Get rid of a few of those pesky hungry kids.

    Which is all a bit by the way, as we're looking at possible shortages in the very near future. Anybody want any entrepreneurial black market magic beans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Made me laugh too particularly when you look at the 'Remain' Leadership
    they are prepared to elect.

    Made me laugh too. Wish there was a 'PMSL' button, really.

    Better than having to do the whole 'reply' nonsense when you could just click a 'love', 'WTAF' or 'turd' emoji.


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    The tories , shafting you since 1830's


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    Just like the war years, rationing just round the corner

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Well we'll start very simply so you can explain it to everyone,

    at which point in the field to shelf chain will it stop dead ?


    You shouldn't have a problem answering that.


    Then you can go on to explain the same for medicines.
    I didn't say the chain would stop dead?
    There will either be tariffs making imports more expensive meaning fewer can afford to buy them.
    Or all imports will be tariff free which will destroy British farming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post


    Why not? It is just what budding entrepreneurs need-find a need and provide a service.

    Growing one's own food if possible.
    Bartering.

    It will be just like a Common Market before we had to pay another country to run it.
    Black market spivs and bartering.
    What could possibly go wrong?!
    Not sure where I'm going to grow my food in a second floor flat though. A window box wouldn't keep me going very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Where are 'budding entrepreneurs' going to get this food? Smuggling? Black market black puddings?

    What food are you going to grow between now and, say, November? Cress? We've had this nonsense since 2016. If commercial agriculture hasn't grown enough food for us since then, what is the average flat-dweller or even semi-detached with a decent sized garden going to do? I've got parsley, thyme and rosemary on my kitchen windowsill. Not going to get far with that.

    You are right, though. With the right deal (which probably isn't going to happen) we could be right back before we joined the EEC. Not a great prospect, hence us joining it. But we could have the freedom of more expensive food through a deal, or much more expensive food through the WTO. On the positive side, it might stop all that 'food bank' nonsense, eh? Get rid of a few of those pesky hungry kids.

    Which is all a bit by the way, as we're looking at possible shortages in the very near future. Anybody want any entrepreneurial black market magic beans?
    Southport is surrounded by arable fields-buy local.

    Shop in any inner big city and you can buy imported goods from non EU Countries.

    Black Market dealing is illegal and tax avoidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Southport is surrounded by arable fields-buy local.

    Shop in any inner big city and you can buy imported goods from non EU Countries.

    Black Market dealing is illegal and tax avoidance.
    Tax avoidance is perfectly legal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    Black market spivs and bartering.
    What could possibly go wrong?!
    Not sure where I'm going to grow my food in a second floor flat though. A window box wouldn't keep me going very long.
    Do you remember the 'Buy British' campaign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer View Post
    Tax avoidance is perfectly legal!
    Gotcha!

    Hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Gotcha!

    Hypocrite.

    Evasion is illegal!

    It's inbuilt in tory DNA


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Do you remember the 'Buy British' campaign?
    That was before the tories sold Britain , lock stock & barrel!


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