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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
A deal should be an absolute piece of cake then. The easiest deal in history, even.
Yes it should be straightforward with a reasonable organisation.
The obstructive tactics of Barnier et al must be be very concerning for European businesses.
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Do any of you who know everything there is to know about what will happen when we leave have a plan for getting out of your home if it catches fire. If so do you set fire to your home to test it? The civil servants have drawn up what COULD happen not what WILL happen.
Now that sweaty sock Swinson has stated she is going to ignore the referendum I suppose the undemocratic of this country will be clamouring to kiss her feet.
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Every day that passes, This feels more and more like a ticking time bomb. Sooner or later it's going to go off and all hell will let loose.
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Originally Posted by seivad
Good grief, man! Can you get anything right?
Operation Yellowhammer is the Conservative government's contingency plan to mitigate the possible consequences of a no deal Brexit. The government was actually keeping their plans a secret. If it hadn't been leaked in August, you probably still wouldn't have heard about Yellowhammer. On Monday MPs passed a motion for the government to publish the Yellowhammer documents, which is why you're seeing them now.
Your thread should really be titled: " Of Interest to Those Who Want to Leave the EU with No Deal"
Ha!Ha! - you really believe that?
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Try getting your facts right , Yellow hammer is the UK government's contingency plan .
You are a bigger buffoon than Boris.
Contingency plan? Have you read it? It matches in with the alien invasion and armageddon! I find it hilarious!
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Originally Posted by Ceam
Every day that passes, This feels more and more like a ticking time bomb. Sooner or later it's going to go off and all hell will let loose.
Being more serious - I think you are right! There will be a whole population walking around in sackcloths which are worn through, full of holes. These people's desperate sunken. red rimmed eyes seeking some benevolent aid to help them as they each hold out their thin boney arms. In dirty claw like hands they hold out begging bowls for food that they desperately need. Some crying, pleading for the medication they need for their pain. A picture of abject misery. Rather than the odd few hundred homeless on the streets - there is likely to be more people sleeping rough than there will be in houses - houses that stand ignored and dark - because the majority will not be able to afford their rent, nor pay bills. The public services will break down - the staff too ill to work. With cars abandoned at the road side - their owners who have warily given up being able to obtain fuel to run the vehicles, many of which lay rusting in derelict streets. While above - the threatening winter skies fill with the gloom of impending snow, the temperatures drop below freezing and the birds drop out of the sky either dying or dead, as there are no worms to feed on, no trees living to nest in. These are very sad times indeed, very sad, my friend!
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
What on earth is this?
Links going nowhere. What happened in 2016 that's happening again?
I got the Yellowhammer document, but what is the rest?
Doomsayers! Happened in 2016 - repeats now!
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
Do any of you who know everything there is to know about what will happen when we leave have a plan for getting out of your home if it catches fire. If so do you set fire to your home to test it? The civil servants have drawn up what COULD happen not what WILL happen.
Now that sweaty sock Swinson has stated she is going to ignore the referendum I suppose the undemocratic of this country will be clamouring to kiss her feet.
Good point!
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Originally Posted by said
Ha!Ha! - you really believe that?
Yes. It's the Johnson government's dystopian view of the possible effects of leaving the EU with no deal. Something that both Johnson, and most leavers, have stated will never happen, while most remainers have always believed it is a distinct possibility. Why would it be of interest to remainers? It's the naysayers who should be interested in what goes on behind closed doors.
Your typo excuse doesn't wash. Let me see... EU vs Conservative government. Yes, very easy to confuse (if you haven't read the report)
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Originally Posted by seivad
Yes. It's the Johnson government's dystopian view of the possible effects of leaving the EU with no deal. Something that both Johnson, and most leavers, have stated will never happen, while most remainers have always believed it is a distinct possibility. Why would it be of interest to remainers? It's the naysayers who should be interested in what goes on behind closed doors.
It doesn't matter about the source. As we've already seen on here, the government's own publications, even Johnson's no-deal Brexiteer government's publications, are completely ignored if they dare to hint of the slightest negativity about Brexit.
Operation Yellowhammer, Operation Black Swan, Operation Kingfisher, industry publications, Lord's papers, none of it can be considered for a single second. Unless, perhaps, some Faragian decree is made.
If it wasn't so serious, it'd be quite amusing really. Watching people who haven't considered the EU since 1975, apart from some background noise from John Major once, suddenly becoming rabid anti-European zealots. There's none so righteous as the newly converted, as the saying goes.
Even Thatcher was played by Murdoch and the right-wing media, so what chance did impotent pensioners, finally given a chance to mix it all up in their twilight years, have? Frothing at the mouth, maniacally small-minded to the point of their own demise, contented to watch the Tory party self-destruct, all to follow the gospel of St Nigel - man of the people, champion of the poor, frail and elderly.
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What really, really gets my goat is imagining the smirks on the heartless *******'s faces (insert the expletive of your choice) when someone came up with the name of a bird whose song rhythm is " A little bit of bread and no cheese". The report states that low income groups will be disproportionately affected by price increases. The choice of name shows how much they care eh?
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The theory that all the predictions of doom & gloom are fictitious is wrong, they are based on the previous experience of not being a member, these are the reasons we joined, food rotted in wagons after being held up at ports, animals died on wagons whilst Customs Officials checked paperwork then went too lunch, had a siesta then rejected it because it was in a foreign language. Ah yes, the good old days!
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Originally Posted by Alikado
The theory that all the predictions of doom & gloom are fictitious is wrong, they are based on the previous experience of not being a member, these are the reasons we joined, food rotted in wagons after being held up at ports, animals died on wagons whilst Customs Officials checked paperwork then went too lunch, had a siesta then rejected it because it was in a foreign language. Ah yes, the good old days!
Some of those in my generation must have forgotten. And many people were either a child then, or hadn't yet been born. I am not in any of those categories, and, like you, I don't believe that the predictions re. the food supply are false. Plus, just look at the different types of food we eat these days, and the produce bought year round that we didn't eat back then. I couldn't even estimate the increases in the volume of food passing through channel ports. It's impossible to state with certainty that you won't be affected.
Canada also has massive food imports from the US, particularly produce during our Winter months. We've had an FTA with the US for yonks, and now have fast track pre-clearance on goods crossing the border. But, I remember the years before pre-clearance, and the line up of trucks at the main border crossings between Ontario and NY State were horrendous. Where I worked, production management were constantly tracking shipments of raw materials/components etc., only to be told "still stuck in customs". Among other things, production down time costs money. Stocking inventory to compensate for not being able to count on JIT inventory costs money. The additional facility space to store this inventory costs money. Preparation of customs documentation costs money. It's a disaster for business too.
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