Is this the end of lockdown

[seivad]

I'd expect someone who's experienced such an incredible amount of loss to be wise emotionally.

And completely miss the point with this closing paragraph:

"But it is not all bad news at this particular time - I do believe the Government are now looking at ways to lift the lockdown which will be a huge relief to many people."

[silver fox]

Sorry, I couldn't if even I wanted to - I was not that interested to ask. Do remember that where C -19 is mentioned on the Death Certificate, 99.9% are with, not from.

"Duringtheir long discussion with reporters, Dr. Erickson noted he has spoken to numerous physicians who say they are being pressured to add COVID-19 to death certificates and diagnostic lists—even when the novel coronavirus appears to have no relation to the victim’s cause of death.“They say, ‘You know, it’s interesting. When I’m writing up my death report I’m being pressured to add Covid,’” Erickson said. “Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add Covid? To maybe increase the numbers, and make it look a little bit worse than it is?” FEE

The above is an American site, but there are a number of similar reports by UK patients. I collect information from many sources, I have no patience with the media nor with mass acceptance - but everyone has their own opinion based on their own understanding.

Your reasoning is like someone who dies after being shot, but declared as dying from heart failure due to blood loss.

[local]

Hmm "I have no patience with the media"



Media meaning the internet, newspapers, magazines, television, etc., considered as a group:

That does leave few options but the history doesn't support many of them just one mainly.

[said]

Your reasoning is like someone who dies after being shot, but declared as dying from heart failure due to blood loss.

Exactly!

[said]

Hmm "I have no patience with the media"



Media meaning the internet, newspapers, magazines, television, etc., considered as a group:

That does leave few options but the history doesn't support many of them just one mainly.

I scan all the newspapers, both national and international.

[said]

How odd that you remembered that your old acquaintance worked in care homes, but can't recall which homes/group of homes he or she works in. You were also confident enough to confirm that you haven't heard of any cases either, which begs the question of which care homes you checked in order to make your "informed" statement.

Obviously you didn't check very carefully, if at all. I've already provided THIS link which proves otherwise.

The conversation began with "Hi - I haven't seen you for a while, are you still working?"
The response was "Yes, I am still working with the elderly in care homes"
OK?

Your link does not work.

[said]

I'd expect someone who's experienced such an incredible amount of loss to be wise emotionally.

No! Hardened!

[Desert Region]

No! Hardened!

A person can be both hardened and wise. Being hardened shouldn't necessarily make someone tone deaf.

I'd also expect someone who's experienced such an incredible amount of loss not to be both callous and flippant.

[said]

A person can be both hardened and wise. Being hardened shouldn't necessarily make someone tone deaf.

I'd also expect someone who's experienced such an incredible amount of loss not to be both callous and flippant.

I am neither callous nor flippant, that is your own personal view., thosse who know me know better! Wisdom is from experience, I believe I have that, in buckets. How else would you expect someone to respond? Perhaps you would like to reveal some of your wisdom, oh mighty oracle.

[Desert Region]

I am neither callous nor flippant, that is your own personal view., thosse who know me know better! Wisdom is from experience, I believe I have that, in buckets. How else would you expect someone to respond? Perhaps you would like to reveal some of your wisdom, oh mighty oracle.

Where did you get the buckets from? Sainsburys?

[silver fox]

Exactly!

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You missed the point of my post totally.

Put it this way I wasn't agreeing with you.

[bensherman]

There are many very angry people on social media! No we are not dependent on foreign labour - it is more that the picker/packer farms need cheap labour!

It seems to have struck a chord locally, anyway! I have never seen so many cars on the road, nor more people about since the start of lockdown. I do not think people are very happy!

Before migrant workers, before picker packers - the farming industry had ample workers drawn from the student population who needed to fund their education.

Our farms have used substantial amounts of seasonal foreign labour since the 1950s.

[local]

I scan all the newspapers, both national and international.

But "you have no patience" with them

[jamyramy]

But "you have no patience" with them

replying to thread overall.come please all just stop stop stop.saids not responsible for this contentioussituation were all thrust into.its majorly life changing were all getting lockdown angst,and wanting a vent at this soo frustrating and disturbing of our accostmed comfort zones.none are so callous as to have no sense of empathy to alls loses.weve all lost our day to day lives ,and ultimately those of our closest and dearest to heart.yet no where to vent or feel a close heart to hand to be frail of being and heart.so lets not resort to whipping the boy with our stick.come on embrace the inner lessons the situations sent to our souls. group hug and blessings to all.be well and care.xxxx

[gsgsgs]

It is always very sad and very difficult when family members die. Last year I unexpectantly lost three close family members practically within a month of one another, so I know how you feel, I was completely devastated. I am not a heartless cavalier in any way at all, quite the opposite actually. I have to be very practical. I have attended no fewer than eighteen funerals of close family members - there was absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent their sad passing and nothing I could do to bring them back. My grief was my own, humans are not immortal, and life goes on.

But it is not all bad news at this particular time - I do believe the Government are now looking at ways to lift the lockdown which will be a huge relief to many people.

I am neither callous nor flippant, that is your own personal view., thosse who know me know better! Wisdom is from experience, I believe I have that, in buckets. How else would you expect someone to respond? Perhaps you would like to reveal some of your wisdom, oh mighty oracle.

You say you are not callous! You've already stated that you are ignoring lockdown and going out meeting your mates as you like, that is callous and a blatant disregard for people's safety.

Your closing comment about "all not bad news" in reply to obviously what was a sensitive post is callous, perhaps I should share this good news with my friends family and they can drape bunting over her coffin in celebration of this good news!

You have shown complete ignorance of all factual information around this pandemic, choosing instead to spout your spurious, dangerous lies and misinformation, how more callous can anyone be!