US Election

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Obama didn't lose his position. US Presidents are only allowed to serve 2 terms. Obama won 2 elections.

The 20 million Americans who love Obamacare would disagree with you. As would those who enjoy the Medicaid expansion which is part of the Act. If the Supreme Court overturns the ACA, there will be a lot of angry people.

Republicans have been promising a new improved health care scheme for 10 years. Trump has been promising one throughout his 4 year term.
Where is it?


It's great to hear that Biden is discussing his policies with you, along with his plans for a short term in office. No doubt you were able to offer him some valuable advice.

Trump doesn't decide when he will 'step down'. As written in the US Constitution, all presidential terms end on January 20th when the new President is sworn in at noon.


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I have been given to understand that Trump can step down anytime before Jan 20th - he will not do so due to trade obligations.

For a great number of years, China has been playing a game with the world, none more so than the USA. Long before Obama came into office. But even though the warning signs were apparent, Obama expressed his wish for closer ties with China. Biden, under Obama, made several representations to China.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/15/a...hnk/index.html

With regard to Obamacare - 31 million Americans may well disagree with you. If the system had been so popular - why did it fail?

https://www.thoughtco.com/reasons-ob...ailure-3303662

Several proposals for a new US healthcare system have been suggested and submitted through to congress. For example:
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/fi...ompetition.pdf

[silver fox]

Less than great is a promotion he doesn't deserve, any accolades except for shaking up the system and sticking his rather large feet where many others have feared to tread should be given with caution.

Trump didn't deserve to win but neither did Biden and I believe Trump lost it more than Biden won it, thats, why I use the phrase "stole" in other times with a better candidate Biden, would have lost by a country mile.

Ifs, buts and maybes, fact Trump lost, Biden won, end of.

[local]

Ifs, buts and maybes, fact Trump lost, Biden won, end of.

No doubt at all that Trump lost it

[sandGroundZero]

President Trump's term is bracketed by his predecessor, Barack Obama, and his successor, Joe Biden. Comparisons are inescapable.

Barack Obama was promptly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". Sadly, that was about the high point of his presidency. The signature legislative highlight was the Affordable Care Act — a disappointing compromise owing to legislators' (including Democrats) insistence that the 'free market' NOT be seriously compromised. Republicans regained control of the legislative branch of government insuring the the flaws of the ACA were retained and highlighted.

Biden starts out with support from the House of Representatives (for the time being), but he is unlikely to wrest control of the Senate.

The United States federal government is hobbled for the foreseeable future by gerrymandering of key states' electoral districts with the consequence that the Republican party can sustain minority rule for some time to come!

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[Alikado]

Less than great is a promotion he doesn't deserve, any accolades except for shaking up the system and sticking his rather large feet where many others have feared to tread should be given with caution.

Trump didn't deserve to win but neither did Biden and I believe Trump lost it more than Biden won it, thats, why I use the phrase "stole" in other times with a better candidate Biden, would have lost by a country mile.

More gifted than stolen.

[Alikado]

An interesting point is that one of the constant criticisms of Trump was that he would get bored and not even finish his term very much the same has been said about Boris.

Clearly, they misread him as Johnson.

Johnson still has a long way to go.

[silver fox]

I have been given to understand that Trump can step down anytime before Jan 20th - he will not do so due to trade obligations.
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What trade obligations? Trump’s only obligation is to foster his image and the false he was robbed allegations, any ongoing trade negotiations will continue with or without him, in fact anything ongoing will probably progress quicker without him.

They don’t class this period of a Presidency as the “lame duck” period for nothing, anything he does now can be unwound pretty quickly come Jan 20th.

[bensherman]

Enough is enough
160,000 new Covid infections on Saturday.
Deaths approaching 240000.
Trump's negligence initially and since has been calculated to attribute 30000 of those deaths to him,
And the leader of the nation locks himself away refusing to give the ball back. His ego and his fear of life after the White House are more important.
Biden's people want access to public data and funds to start planning a response but can't proceed without co-operation.
This is a scandal that should end up in disgrace and in the courts. He should be shunned by decent people and countries for the rest of his life.

[local]

More gifted than stolen.

Yes fair enough.

[local]

Enough is enough
160,000 new Covid infections on Saturday.
Deaths approaching 240000.
Trump's negligence initially and since has been calculated to attribute 30000 of those deaths to him,
And the leader of the nation locks himself away refusing to give the ball back. His ego and his fear of life after the White House are more important.
Biden's people want access to public data and funds to start planning a response but can't proceed without co-operation.
This is a scandal that should end up in disgrace and in the courts. He should be shunned by decent people and countries for the rest of his life.

You are premature,

It is in the courts, Trump is contesting the election as the law allows him too he is after all still President whatever the vote outcome till January.

[silver fox]

You are premature,

It is in the courts, Trump is contesting the election as the law allows him too he is after all still President whatever the vote outcome till January.

Trump is contesting the election on totally spurious grounds, every case that has made it before a judge has been tossed out having no grounds whatsoever, Trump is the enemy of democracy, creating serious doubts in the USA as to the validity of their own electoral system.

[bensherman]

You are premature,

It is in the courts, Trump is contesting the election as the law allows him too he is after all still President whatever the vote outcome till January.

Yes he is president but he is not doing his job.
The question is whether he is prepared to , for once, do something decent and stand aside so that people who want to confront the problem get the opportunity.

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You are premature,

It is in the courts, Trump is contesting the election as the law allows him too he is after all still President whatever the vote outcome till January.

Read: https://issuesinsights.com/2020/11/1...all-the-shots/

[local]

Yes he is president but he is not doing his job.
The question is whether he is prepared to , for once, do something decent and stand aside so that people who want to confront the problem get the opportunity.

But the US Presidents don't just "stand aside" Trump love him or loathe him is simply exercising his legal rights when that hits the buffers in the courts he is out on his ear.

It will all be over soon don't panic.

[local]

Read: https://issuesinsights.com/2020/11/1...all-the-shots/

I don't mind an alternative view but I'm not keen on conspiracy theories from any side.