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Originally Posted by local
Interesting aside but right to buy was a left wing redistributive idea postulated by an economist called Moor or Moore or was it Meade can't remember to be frank which one (so long ago)
Problem is, every buyer is a more likely invested member of a growing nimby army.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the right to buy, but only if the local authority has to either build or purchase another property of equal size.
Generally the properties end up in the hands of private landlords sooner or later. Which depletes social housing stock. So if the right to buy is continued, it has to be under strict terms and conditions, not 'here's a house at a knock down price that you can sell in 5 years'.
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Personally dead against it, social housing is a community asset paid for by the taxpayer to help those who need it.
Great if you can afford to buy a house off you pop and let someone in need have it.
They'll be flogging hospital beds off next ...............................
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Originally Posted by local
Interesting aside but right to buy was a left wing redistributive idea postulated by an economist called Moor or Moore or was it Meade can't remember to be frank which one (so long ago)
Problem is, every buyer is a more likely invested member of a growing nimby army.
80% of the original tranche of RTB were sold again within 5 years.
The arrangement has continued but at no point (including during Labour's time) have local authorities been told to reinvest the proceeds in further housing.
It has slowed now but only because the stock has diminished.
I might be charitable and suggest that these might have been unexpected consequences. Doubt it though.
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Originally Posted by bensherman
80% of the original tranche of RTB were sold again within 5 years.
The arrangement has continued but at no point (including during Labour's time) have local authorities been told to reinvest the proceeds in further housing.
It has slowed now but only because the stock has diminished.
I might be charitable and suggest that these might have been unexpected consequences. Doubt it though.
Ah RTB - one of Thatcher's flagship policies.
Her new statue has been well-received...
Apparently this was the original design. I prefer it...
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Originally Posted by Dirac
Ah RTB - one of Thatcher's flagship policies.
Her new statue has been well-received...
Apparently this was the original design. I prefer it...
What type of man advocates peeing on a female?
After all you said on respecting women what a hypocrite!
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Misogyny alive and kicking, or should I say peeing on women
Some people have a warped mind in finding that acceptable.
She was no hero of mine but did put women on the map in politics.
No wonder Labour are led by a Donkey and there are some capable women propping him up.
I would hazard a guess a lonely individual.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
My gas & electric has risen to £3000 a year for a two bed flat. Taking that as a baseline, if a family of 4 have £14k for food and clothing, they are paying less than £100 a week rent.
You haven't got the first clue.
How? For a 3 bed semi, I estimate my gas and electric for the year Apr-22 to Mar-23 will be about £1565. I have assumed the price cap will go up by about £800 in October.
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International Lee coverage!
Even the Papua New Guinea Courier is reporting on our man Lee, now!
They use some strong language, so don't read if easily offended...
Last edited by Dirac; 16/05/2022 at 06:55 PM.
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Originally Posted by Anon
How? For a 3 bed semi, I estimate my gas and electric for the year Apr-22 to Mar-23 will be about £1565. I have assumed the price cap will go up by about £800 in October.
I'll try and find the letter from British Gas.
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Originally Posted by Dirac
Even the Papua New Guinea Courier is reporting on our man Lee, now!
They use some strong language, so don't read if easily offended...
"That's a lot of people forgetting their way around a kitchen since 2010".
Priceless.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
"That's a lot of people forgetting their way around a kitchen since 2010".
Priceless.
Absolutely - but what about " but correlation does not equal starvation.." ?
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Oh I see, for this masterplan to work, this family have to hang around farms for a while. So they have to live in walking distance of the countryside. And spend time wandering around a farm to become familiar with the workers. I'm sure the farmer in question won't mind at all.
Is it one family per farm, or can several families trek over agricultural land daily to buddy up with the employees?
Then after walking miles and miles to the nearest farm, they then have to find a branch of Farmfoods. Then a branch of Lidl. So with over a million families on poverty, how many live within walking distance of a farm, a Lidl and a Farmfoods to come up with a paltry offering of a dry baked spud, with 6 beans and a sliver of cheese?
And in this masterplan, they've also got to use the energy to blanche veg and freeze them?
Do you know what else you find on a farm? Bull$h!t. So before April, you were paying £400 for combined gas and electricity for a 4 bed house? Bigger bull$h!t than one of your half baked conspiracy theories.
I'm not in poverty. I can afford my bills. And if I had to spend my days staring at an electric meter, I'd lose the will to live. I'm not asking for tips of budgeting from a lying conspiracy theorist with obvious MH problems. We're talking about families on poverty who simply cannot afford the cost of living.
No - combined cost is around £800 per year.
Define Poverty?
The average family benefit is abut £22,500 per year? Do you have more than that income? Are you living in poverty? On average - how much is your food bill per week?
How much do you think should the country be paying to an average unemployed family? Twice that? i.e £45,000 per year. Four times that? £90,000 per year?
Would you agree as a wage earner, that your earnings should be taxed by twice as much, four times as much in order to pay to such a family?
Have you ever lived in poverty? Have you ever not been able to afford food? Have you ever lived without a roof over your head?
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Here's a solution to all this poverty stuff - Rosie Holt will probably be the next PM.
https://twitter.com/RosieisaHolt/sta...I_wWwrOQlEhGdQ
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I would hate to be in political comedy at the moment.
How can anybody possiblt satirise this?
https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-l...money-12614765
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Originally Posted by Dirac
Even the Papua New Guinea Courier is reporting on our man Lee, now!
They use some strong language, so don't read if easily offended...
Not sure about the poster you show. This is a shot in relation to a Labour staged doorstep election campaign taken in Manchester??
If the letter originates from PNG - I would say that it is typical Australian black humour. They don't go short of food in PNG - because they still have cannibals! I would say that the letter is tongue in cheek when talking about poverty, PNG has far more problems than the UK due to heavy government corruption.
Compared to the UK and those who think they are living in poverty:
Facts About Hunger in Papua New Guinea
- Nearly 50% of children in Papua New Guinea are malnourished. As of 2018, almost half of the children in Papua New Guinea suffered from chronic malnutrition. This is much higher than the global average and causes a large percentage of hospital deaths for children under five. Malnutrition can have lasting effects on children, leading to health complications in their adult life.
- Data gathered on food insecurity in Papua New Guinea is scarce. Collecting data on the nourishment of those in Papua New Guinea is difficult, and limited data leads not only to limited reporting but also to limited decision making. Despite knowing that many families living in rural, low-income communities are food insecure, it is difficult for the government to create effective policy changes without accurate statistics.
- Volatile weather causes droughts and increases food insecurity. Papua New Guinea faces unpredictable climate catastrophes, including active volcanos and inconsistent rainfall. Since 2015, Papua New Guinea has been affected by the climate phenomenon El Niño, which caused a disruption in weather patterns and a drastic decrease in rainfall in the region. Reduced rainfall led to issues producing crops and livestock and resulted in a severe drought in the region. Food availability was already low in many regions and the drought led to even more hunger in Papua New Guinea. In addition to contributing to food insecurity, the reduced rainfall also led to decreased access to clean water. As a result, many families turned to alternative water sources that present further health issues, such as dysentery and typhoid.
- Papua New Guinea is committed to achieving a zero-hunger world by 2030. In 2018, the Minister for Agriculture and Livestock in Papua New Guinea, Hon Benny Allen, committed himself and his country to achieving food security for all of Papua New Guinea. Allen created a strategy that includes placing agricultural issues at the forefront of the country’s focus. He promised to make the people the focus of these initiatives by creating sustainable food systems and improved climate disaster preparedness.
- Papua New Guinea created a National Food Security Policy. The National Food Security Policy 2018-2027 outlines a concrete plan to address food insecurity in the nation. The policy states that food security is a basic human right and lays out five priority strategic action areas. These strategic areas include increased productivity and efficiency in food staple production, stability in supply systems, enhanced nutrient content in foods for consumption by vulnerable households, female empowerment in agriculture, and strengthened governing, coordination, monitoring and communication.
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