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Originally Posted by Desert Region
I thought you just said that it's "still their choice"? Unless you meant that society should respect and maintain care workers' freedom of choice to not be vaccinated and continue in that livelihood.
I disagree.
But it is OK to force Carers to be vaccinated to work amongst residents who are not vaccinated and ok for those residents to live together, there are no regulations to force Care Home Residents to be vaccinated.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
But it is OK to force Carers to be vaccinated to work amongst residents who are not vaccinated and ok for those residents to live together, there are no regulations to force Care Home Residents to be vaccinated.
Why should there be regulations to force care home residents to be vaccinated?
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
Why should there be regulations to force care home residents to be vaccinated?
I think that's definitely one for the future.
Perhaps not forcing them, but I can't imagine care home owners allowing unvaccinated residents to go and live in their places. Not after the devastating losses of last year.
I'm not saying there should be mandatory vaccinations for all. But I can see jobs and activities severely restricted for those who refuse them.
Particularly if a vaccine is developed to shield people in the same way a polio or smallpox jab did. Although if you believe there are microchips, gene changers or some kind of fertility killers in there, you're probably not going to get it no matter what.
I'm amazed they get all that down a little needle.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
Why should there be regulations to force care home residents to be vaccinated?
If you have a regulation to stop the virus it must apply to residents as well as staff, they could be just as vulnerable.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
If you have a regulation to stop the virus it must apply to residents as well as staff, they could be just as vulnerable.
Care home residents could be just as vulnerable as care home staff?! Good grief!
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Originally Posted by Alikado
It is still their choice, if they were vaccinated there would be more chance that they would be asymptomatic and therefore more likely to be spreading as the unvaccinated would probably be off work sick.
It's staggering that in October 2021 anyone should be coming out with anything as ill-thought-out regards vaccinations as that.
Even Conservative Health Secretaries wouldn't come out with something like that!
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I reckon the staff and the residents at every care home should be vaccinated. We can't keep repeating the same mistakes.
It's unfortunate, but when even the double jabbed are dying of Covid, it simply doesn't make sense to have unvaxxed folk around vulnerable people, be it the elderly, hospital patients, whoever.
As I said, I'm not in favour of the government forcing anybody to have any medical treatment they don't want, but surely there comes a time when those deliberately putting others at risk take second place to those who try not to.
Right now, I'd like to see masks in indoor spaces mandatory again. 50k new cases today, rising toward the worse infections we had last January. Hundreds of deaths a week. And it's 'over'?
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I reckon the staff and the residents at every care home should be vaccinated. We can't keep repeating the same mistakes.
It's unfortunate, but when even the double jabbed are dying of Covid, it simply doesn't make sense to have unvaxxed folk around vulnerable people, be it the elderly, hospital patients, whoever.
As I said, I'm not in favour of the government forcing anybody to have any medical treatment they don't want, but surely there comes a time when those deliberately putting others at risk take second place to those who try not to.
Right now, I'd like to see masks in indoor spaces mandatory again. 50k new cases today, rising toward the worse infections we had last January. Hundreds of deaths a week. And it's 'over'?
Just where does the morality come in? People should not be forced to do anything - that could lead to some real bad things. I know not ten years ago, they were experimenting with drugs on mental patients, and they had no choice. Imagine if they told everyone - you have got to do....by order.
Why do you think comments about the virus were banned? If everyone got discussing the issue, there would have been a conclusion resulting in far fewer people taking up the vaccination, which was the whole focus of the operation. The masks nor the distancing have any effect whatever - it does not matter what the 'experts' told you, it is a scientific fact, such efforts do not work! The virus itself was milder than a normal cold, the hospitals were empty, the funeral parlours were empty, we are in a depression and quite a severe one at that. What's more - it as beengoing onfor more than twelve years!
The pace of recovery is moderating in the UK, Germany, China and pretty much everywhere else as well. There are shortages of materials and labour. In a world of lockdowns, quarantines and travel restrictions, it is proving harder to sustain a model built around frictionless movement of people, parts and finance. Global supply chains are under pressure.
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Originally Posted by said
Why do you think comments about the virus were banned?
Initial posts about the virus are fact checked on Facebook. To stop anti-vaxxer horse crap.
Comments about the virus are not banned on Twitter. The frothing loons are all over the place. Such as this below. This animal is between 10 and 30mm long. It isn't a parasite. Want to explain how that is injected by a needle?
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Another genius Twitter take. I'm glad they aren't banned. They are absolutely hysterical:
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Originally Posted by said
Why do you think comments about the virus were banned? If everyone got discussing the issue, there would have been a conclusion resulting in far fewer people taking up the vaccination, which was the whole focus of the operation. The masks nor the distancing have any effect whatever - it does not matter what the 'experts' told you, it is a scientific fact, such efforts do not work! The virus itself was milder than a normal cold, the hospitals were empty, the funeral parlours were empty, we are in a depression and quite a severe one at that. What's more - it as beengoing onfor more than twelve years!
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You really do come out with lies and total garbage, some areas of hospitals were quieter than usual, because the hospitals had to close some areas because they were overrun with Covid patients.
Do you know anyone who suffered a bereavement at the peak of the Covid deaths? no matter the cause of death, funerals were well delayed because undertakers were also overrun and just for your information there are still delays for funerals
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Another genius Twitter take. I'm glad they aren't banned. They are absolutely hysterical:
How do these brain illiterates actually function, equating real life with (I presume) some pathetic war game, do these idiots not know the difference?
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I wonder if we will all be locked down again soon?, don’t forget to sing happy birthday as you wash your hands
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The division over the vaccine is grossly overstated,
the people of Britain and most of the world where they have the opportunity have voted overwhelmingly to have the vaccinations.
Very much a minority are unsure, opposed or simply not got round to it.
The same with the B word the majority have even when previously opposed got on with it.
Those still seeking to stir division are fading fast as people see the benefits.
The media loves to stir us up.
Just yesterday Ford voted with its cheque book proving we are a great place to do business and for the workers of Britain the threat of undercutting you with cheap shipped in Labour is fading.
Those who are only happy looking for problems will be with us for some time and we just have to get used to it.
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
It’s actually comical watching her, the way she speaks ( her style of speaking ) she is giving herself enough time to think, to come up with some bull shot to pass as fact to those who don’t know of don’t think, everyone knows a bullshitter you can actually see them thinking see the cogs moving it’s laughable
You could say exactly the same about Boris Johnson but he doesn't attract the same visceral response, I can't imagine why that would be.
Given the right's stated dislike of the "elite", they seem remarkably forgiving of the Eton educated posh white boys than they ever are of working class black politicians.
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