We're Doomed.

[seivad]

Born of wealthy parents, he studied chemistry then public health. The fact that he is a professor means that he is a scholar not a medical doctor. If he works for the government - he would be a fool to claim anything other than what the government are paying him for.

How like you to belittle someone whose achievements are way above your pay grade

I think you'll find that Ravindra Gupta, MA, MPH, BMBCh, PhD, FRCP, FRCPath, FMedSci's qualifications are a lot more impressive than you give him credit for. The same applies to his achievements. His research work earned him a place in Time's 100 most influential people of 2020.

Gupta was temporarily co-opted to Nervtag for Covid. And if you believe that the government, particularly Boris Johnson, wants to delay lifting Covid restrictions, you're crazy. Understandably, it's the last advice they want to hear.

[Desert Region]

Whatever next? Before we know it, they’ll be telling us the word is spherical shaped and we really did land on the moon. Best put your tinfoil hat back on and hunker down.

The Forum's conspiracy theorists actually disputed that. Or they certainly did do, until they were put right.

[Desert Region]

According to the BBC a respected scientist (unnamed) has predicted we are on the verge of a "third wave".
What is even more predictable than a third wave is that the BBC will go all out to hold onto this fear factor for as long as they possibly can - even though they will have to run it alongside the biggest fear generator of all time - which is global warming. (You aint seen nothing yet!)
In the words of Private Fraser in Dads Army "We're doomed, I tell you, We're Doomed". If it wasn't for the fact that many people are scared stiff because they hang on to every word the media puts out and the resulting anxiety causes grave mental health problems, we could all treat this rubbish with the contempt it deserves.

I remember a poster on this Forum who during the outset of the first wave last year confidently predicted it was all a lot of fuss and scaremongering about nothing and that it would soon be gone and forgotten.

Predictably, they appear to have forgotten that.

[Hamble]

A third wave of infections.

If vaccination rates keep the people out of hospital and death there is hope.

Unvaccinated visitors to the UK once travel is restored will be the most at risk.

[Alikado]

A third wave of infections.

If vaccination rates keep the people out of hospital and death there is hope.

Unvaccinated visitors to the UK once travel is restored will be the most at risk.

We've already had 3 waves, the first last spring, second last October / November and third December / January.

[silver fox]

How like you to belittle someone whose achievements are way above your pay grade

I think you'll find that Ravindra Gupta, MA, MPH, BMBCh, PhD, FRCP, FRCPath, FMedSci's qualifications are a lot more impressive than you give him credit for. The same applies to his achievements. His research work earned him a place in Time's 100 most influential people of 2020.

Gupta was temporarily co-opted to Nervtag for Covid. And if you believe that the government, particularly Boris Johnson, wants to delay lifting Covid restrictions, you're crazy. Understandably, it's the last advice they want to hear.

Come now seivad, you know that our own “said” is better informed, better qualified, more knowledgeable than anyone, at least in his/her own head, typical know it alls who know nothing.

[Hamble]

We've already had 3 waves, the first last spring, second last October / November and third December / January.

The press are calling it thus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57304515

[Alikado]

The press are calling it thus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57304515

See the chart on your link, which one doesn't count, is it the first one because we didn't test so the cases never existed or have cases not been dropping but increasing over the last 5 months?

[Hamble]

See the chart on your link, which one doesn't count, is it the first one because we didn't test so the cases never existed or have cases not been dropping but increasing over the last 5 months?

I have to go on BMJ's definition of 'waves' which is the effect of a virus running its course.
Now infections are rising thank fully not hospital admissions or death rates.

Mass vaccination has made this possible.


"COVID-19 was first reported in the UK at the end of January 2020 and lockdown announced on 23 March 2020. Many of us have uttered the words ‘when this is over’, but what does that really mean? As the first-, second- and third-order impacts of the virus manifest over different time frames, this pandemic will not necessarily be ‘over’ until we are through the impact of the ‘third wave’ of the COVID-19 pandemic.

We are currently experiencing the effects of the first wave, where deaths and disability are directly linked to COVID-19. Alongside the atrocious death toll, an as yet untold number of people are living with the lasting aftermath of a severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection—for some, even mild COVID-19 can be debilitating for months on end, even after they are clinically cured of the infection.1


The second wave refers to those who will suffer in the medium-term due to measures taken to limit the spread of COVID-19. It includes, among many others, those who delay presenting to healthcare facilities for fear of COVID-19 infection; those with progressive diseases whose appointments are rescheduled; and those who miss routine screening. The question of how doctors, particularly those working in primary care, will navigate the backlog remains unanswered.

The third wave is the effect of virus on the social determinants of health, and its effects on the next generation.2 The virus will worsen health inequalities through severe economic injury.3 It is the sectors that rely on low-paid staff (often women, young people and Black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people) that will take longest to recover from the predicted deep economic recession.3 The health impacts caused by this worsening of economic conditions will be complex, but it is likely that groups that are at the intersection between poverty and poor health that will suffer most.3"..........


https://pmj.bmj.com/content/97/1147/332

[Toodles McGinty]

According to the BBC a respected scientist (unnamed) has predicted we are on the verge of a "third wave".
What is even more predictable than a third wave is that the BBC will go all out to hold onto this fear factor for as long as they possibly can - even though they will have to run it alongside the biggest fear generator of all time - which is global warming. (You aint seen nothing yet!)
In the words of Private Fraser in Dads Army "We're doomed, I tell you, We're Doomed". If it wasn't for the fact that many people are scared stiff because they hang on to every word the media puts out and the resulting anxiety causes grave mental health problems, we could all treat this rubbish with the contempt it deserves.

Crank.

Born of wealthy parents, he studied chemistry then public health. The fact that he is a professor means that he is a scholar not a medical doctor. If he works for the government - he would be a fool to claim anything other than what the government are paying him for.

Bitter crank.

Odd they don't deny the existence of other Coronaviruses, just those that stop them enjoying imagined freedoms. Or perhaps, as I suspect with a few of the conspiracy theorists on here, they simply delight in the attention their bizarre claims get them. Lots of typing with one hand.

On the plus side, if they refuse vaccinations, they might not be around long enough to further spread their toxic ideas. Here's hoping.

[Hamble]

Born of wealthy parents, he studied chemistry then public health. The fact that he is a professor means that he is a scholar not a medical doctor. If he works for the government - he would be a fool to claim anything other than what the government are paying him for.

FRCP as well that is very impressive.
A brilliant British man.


https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/fellowship

[Alikado]

I have to go on BMJ's definition of 'waves' which is the effect of a virus running its course.
Now infections are rising thank fully not hospital admissions or death rates.

Mass vaccination has made this possible.


"COVID-19 was first reported in the UK at the end of January 2020 and lockdown announced on 23 March 2020. Many of us have uttered the words ‘when this is over’, but what does that really mean? As the first-, second- and third-order impacts of the virus manifest over different time frames, this pandemic will not necessarily be ‘over’ until we are through the impact of the ‘third wave’ of the COVID-19 pandemic.

We are currently experiencing the effects of the first wave, where deaths and disability are directly linked to COVID-19. Alongside the atrocious death toll, an as yet untold number of people are living with the lasting aftermath of a severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection—for some, even mild COVID-19 can be debilitating for months on end, even after they are clinically cured of the infection.1


The second wave refers to those who will suffer in the medium-term due to measures taken to limit the spread of COVID-19. It includes, among many others, those who delay presenting to healthcare facilities for fear of COVID-19 infection; those with progressive diseases whose appointments are rescheduled; and those who miss routine screening. The question of how doctors, particularly those working in primary care, will navigate the backlog remains unanswered.

The third wave is the effect of virus on the social determinants of health, and its effects on the next generation.2 The virus will worsen health inequalities through severe economic injury.3 It is the sectors that rely on low-paid staff (often women, young people and Black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people) that will take longest to recover from the predicted deep economic recession.3 The health impacts caused by this worsening of economic conditions will be complex, but it is likely that groups that are at the intersection between poverty and poor health that will suffer most.3"..........


https://pmj.bmj.com/content/97/1147/332

That is the waves of effects not waves of infections.

[Hamble]

That is the waves of effects not waves of infections.

You are recording waves of infections?

[Alikado]

You are recording waves of infections?

That is what the media is talking about, that is the subject of your link.

[Little Londoner]

How do you catch suicide is it airborne or do you catch it by touchy feely.