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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
As we've seen with our resident Covidiot, it's pretty difficult to get through to them.
Something of a rift is forming in my family. Eldest grandson is refusing point blank to get vaccinated. Now he's an adult, he's got every right to go unvaccinated. The rest of the family maintain their right to avoid infection. Even though most are double jabbed, we know that is no guarantee we won't catch Covid or even be hospitalised, though it does improve everyone's chances against both.
He's seen his younger siblings suffer Covid, but the fact that they recovered simply reinforces his belief that it isn't a big deal. His cousin has also gone down that road, posting links to the usual YouTube conspiracy theories.
In every other way he's an intelligent, responsible chap. Several degrees, runs his own business. But on this particular subject, he's basically batshit crazy. Even to the 'what are they putting in it' or 'it hasn't been tested enough' nonsense. Very disturbing how easily some people can be enticed down this particular rabbit hole.
We have one in our family too.
Without discussing it with each other everyone tried pursuasion the tactics of which varied with personality.
All it has done is make a stubborn person prouder of her resolve.
Since we now have all spoken on the subject we have agreed to change the tactics which have given too much attention to that which gives no attention.
We can do this now as vaccination has removed the guilt and responsibility to those who choose not to get vaccinated.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
We have one in our family too.
Without discussing it with each other everyone tried pursuasion the tactics of which varied with personality.
All it has done is make a stubborn person prouder of her resolve.
Since we now have all spoken on the subject we have agreed to change the tactics which have given too much attention to that which gives no attention.
We can do this now as vaccination has removed the guilt and responsibility to those who choose not to get vaccinated.
Yes, confrontation seems to make them dig in even deeper. He knows we are very much in favour of vaccines, particularly considering it could have prevented his mother getting ill when her kids became infected. He's gone from 'I'm going to wait and see' to 'we need a revolution in this country'. The latter I'd normally be quite proud of, if it was over poverty or inequality or some such. Not the right to spread Covid in night clubs by entering them unvaccinated.
His father lives abroad and he goes to see him a couple of times a year. I thought that might persuade him to have the jab. But he's having none of it, simply harbouring greater resentment that he can't travel at the moment.
He's also recently split with his long term girlfriend, so we're wondering if his stance had something to do with it. She's a sensible girl, so we have to assume it did.
We are not speaking of it at the moment. He'll either capitulate or go full blown Q-Anon. Either way, we also reserve our right not to get infected by anti-vax loons. While the jab may lessen the effects of the infection on us, I've got to consider a few vulnerable folk who might not be so fortunate.
What a gullible pillock.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Yes, confrontation seems to make them dig in even deeper. He knows we are very much in favour of vaccines, particularly considering it could have prevented his mother getting ill when her kids became infected. He's gone from 'I'm going to wait and see' to 'we need a revolution in this country'. The latter I'd normally be quite proud of, if it was over poverty or inequality or some such. Not the right to spread Covid in night clubs by entering them unvaccinated.
His father lives abroad and he goes to see him a couple of times a year. I thought that might persuade him to have the jab. But he's having none of it, simply harbouring greater resentment that he can't travel at the moment.
He's also recently split with his long term girlfriend, so we're wondering if his stance had something to do with it. She's a sensible girl, so we have to assume it did.
We are not speaking of it at the moment. He'll either capitulate or go full blown Q-Anon. Either way, we also reserve our right not to get infected by anti-vax loons. While the jab may lessen the effects of the infection on us, I've got to consider a few vulnerable folk who might not be so fortunate.
What a gullible pillock.
We don't consider the vulnerable for other things, they just get offered a flu jab that may or may not work and the world carries on.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
We don't consider the vulnerable for other things, they just get offered a flu jab that may or may not work and the world carries on.
Yes, but I'm not talking about society in general. I'm talking about vulnerable relatives and friends who I personally care about infecting.
I wear a mask and keep my distance to keep other people safe. Not really much else I can do, but I'll do that.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Yes, confrontation seems to make them dig in even deeper. He knows we are very much in favour of vaccines, particularly considering it could have prevented his mother getting ill when her kids became infected. He's gone from 'I'm going to wait and see' to 'we need a revolution in this country'. The latter I'd normally be quite proud of, if it was over poverty or inequality or some such. Not the right to spread Covid in night clubs by entering them unvaccinated.
His father lives abroad and he goes to see him a couple of times a year. I thought that might persuade him to have the jab. But he's having none of it, simply harbouring greater resentment that he can't travel at the moment.
He's also recently split with his long term girlfriend, so we're wondering if his stance had something to do with it. She's a sensible girl, so we have to assume it did.
We are not speaking of it at the moment. He'll either capitulate or go full blown Q-Anon. Either way, we also reserve our right not to get infected by anti-vax loons. While the jab may lessen the effects of the infection on us, I've got to consider a few vulnerable folk who might not be so fortunate.
What a gullible pillock.
What can you do other than grit teeth keep calm and carry on.
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The Said account must feel they've missed a trick with this one. Who would have predicted one day we'd be seeing stories like this on the BBC News website? The film's (co-)screenwriter having to explain that the science-fiction film, I Am Legend, was not warning (as it has been relayed on QAnon forums) that taking vaccines turns people into literal flesh-eating zombies!
If there's lessons to take away from that gruesome-to-watch film about a man who is among the 1% of the population who is immune to a virus that was caused by a re-engineering of the measles virus, they'd be that 1) Will Smith is a hottie, no matter what and 2) viruses are dangerous.
Vaccinations don't even feature in the plot.
I Am Legend screenwriter dismisses anti-vax claims based on film's plot
One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.
The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.
Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.
Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media.
Last week, the New York Times reported that the owner of an eyewear store in the Bronx, New York, was struggling to persuade some of its staff to get a Covid vaccine, with one citing the plot of I Am Legend as a concern.
"One employee said she was concerned because she thought a vaccine had caused the characters in the film I Am Legend to turn into zombies," the report said.
Responding to the article, Akiva Goldsman, 59, who co-wrote the screenplay based on a 1954 novel of the same name, tweeted: "Oh. My. God. It's a movie. I made that up. It's. Not. Real."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
The Said account must feel they've missed a trick with this one. Who would have predicted one day we'd be seeing stories like this on the BBC News website? The film's (co-)screenwriter having to explain that the science-fiction film, I Am Legend, was not warning (as it has been relayed on QAnon forums) that taking vaccines turns people into literal flesh-eating zombies!
If there's lessons to take away from that gruesome-to-watch film about a man who is among the 1% of the population who is immune to a virus that was caused by a re-engineering of the measles virus, they'd be that 1) Will Smith is a hottie, no matter what and 2) viruses are dangerous.
Vaccinations don't even feature in the plot.
I Am Legend screenwriter dismisses anti-vax claims based on film's plot
One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.
The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.
Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.
Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media.
Last week, the New York Times reported that the owner of an eyewear store in the Bronx, New York, was struggling to persuade some of its staff to get a Covid vaccine, with one citing the plot of I Am Legend as a concern.
"One employee said she was concerned because she thought a vaccine had caused the characters in the film I Am Legend to turn into zombies," the report said.
Responding to the article, Akiva Goldsman, 59, who co-wrote the screenplay based on a 1954 novel of the same name, tweeted: "Oh. My. God. It's a movie. I made that up. It's. Not. Real."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833
Perfectly logical (though unfortunate timing) to me as the author having Jewish parents will have been brought up with an aversion to eating blood.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
The Said account must feel they've missed a trick with this one. Who would have predicted one day we'd be seeing stories like this on the BBC News website? The film's (co-)screenwriter having to explain that the science-fiction film, I Am Legend, was not warning (as it has been relayed on QAnon forums) that taking vaccines turns people into literal flesh-eating zombies!
If there's lessons to take away from that gruesome-to-watch film about a man who is among the 1% of the population who is immune to a virus that was caused by a re-engineering of the measles virus, they'd be that 1) Will Smith is a hottie, no matter what and 2) viruses are dangerous.
Vaccinations don't even feature in the plot.
I Am Legend screenwriter dismisses anti-vax claims based on film's plot
One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.
The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.
Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.
Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media.
Last week, the New York Times reported that the owner of an eyewear store in the Bronx, New York, was struggling to persuade some of its staff to get a Covid vaccine, with one citing the plot of I Am Legend as a concern.
"One employee said she was concerned because she thought a vaccine had caused the characters in the film I Am Legend to turn into zombies," the report said.
Responding to the article, Akiva Goldsman, 59, who co-wrote the screenplay based on a 1954 novel of the same name, tweeted: "Oh. My. God. It's a movie. I made that up. It's. Not. Real."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833
To be fair, it makes more sense than lockdown protesters raging against lockdowns that are over, or anti-vaxxers raging against vaccines nobody is forcing them to have.
Or even better, lockdown protestors trying to storm a block of flats thinking they are storming the BBC.
Not the sharpest tools in the box.
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
The Said account must feel they've missed a trick with this one. Who would have predicted one day we'd be seeing stories like this on the BBC News website? The film's (co-)screenwriter having to explain that the science-fiction film, I Am Legend, was not warning (as it has been relayed on QAnon forums) that taking vaccines turns people into literal flesh-eating zombies!
Given his/her severe allergy to all meat products, it's strange that Said didn't pick up on this. The thought of being transformed into a flesh eating zombie would be very distressing, although I doubt that allergen tests for 'all meat products' included human flesh. Chances are (s)he will finally discover a meat product that (s)he can eat. Every cloud etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by toodles mcginty
to be fair, it makes more sense than lockdown protesters raging against lockdowns that are over, or anti-vaxxers raging against vaccines nobody is forcing them to have.
Or even better, lockdown protestors trying to storm a block of flats thinking they are storming the bbc.
Not the sharpest tools in the box.
^^^ this
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Originally Posted by seivad
Given his/her severe allergy to all meat products, it's strange that Said didn't pick up on this. The thought of being transformed into a flesh eating zombie would be very distressing, although I doubt that allergen tests for 'all meat products' included human flesh. Chances are (s)he will finally discover a meat product that (s)he can eat. Every cloud etc. etc.
That gets funnier each time I read it!
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i think it was Silver Fox who mentioned that in the US it's now referred to as the "pandemic of the unvaccinated."
Anti-vaccine radio host in Florida dies of Covid-19 at age 65
Farrel told friends ‘I wish I had gotten it’ after previously mocking vaccines and calling Covid-19 a ‘scamdemic’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1899092.html
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