Crash on Eastbank St,2 cars and a bus.

[whiplash]

Hope no one was injured.
Traffic is being diverted.

[The PNP]

Hope no one was injured.
Traffic is being diverted.

Thanks for the warning.

Not saying speed was a factor, but imo a 30mph limit is too fast for that road. There's always a lot going on, i.e. people stepping into the road, buses pulling in/out, cars parking, traffic emerging, etc.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Thanks for the warning.

Not saying speed was a factor, but imo a 30mph limit is too fast for that road. There's always a lot going on, i.e. people stepping into the road, buses pulling in/out, cars parking, traffic emerging, etc.

No mention of idiots on bikes I see.

[susanb]

I was told the car hit a stationary bus.

[The PNP]

No mention of idiots on bikes I see.

Bikes, prams, kids, dogs, leccy buggies, L-drivers, you name it.....even motorised idiots driving into parked vehicles!

Fact the street is lined with parked cars doesn't help. They obscure the view, making it hard to see who/what is about to step/roll out in front of you.

I'd make the whole street 20mph from the roundabout, remove the on-street parking - and replace it with a couple of nice wide bike lanes.

[local]

Bikes, prams, kids, dogs, leccy buggies, L-drivers, you name it.....even motorised idiots driving into parked vehicles!

Fact the street is lined with parked cars doesn't help. They obscure the view, making it hard to see who/what is about to step/roll out in front of you.

I'd make the whole street 20mph from the roundabout, remove the on-street parking - and replace it with a couple of nice wide bike lanes.

Whats the point of bike lanes people don't use them especially the anti-social lycra clad ones imagining their in the tour de france.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Bikes, prams, kids, dogs, leccy buggies, L-drivers, you name it.....even motorised idiots driving into parked vehicles!

Fact the street is lined with parked cars doesn't help. They obscure the view, making it hard to see who/what is about to step/roll out in front of you.

I'd make the whole street 20mph from the roundabout, remove the on-street parking - and replace it with a couple of nice wide bike lanes.

You're obsessed!

[justbecause]

Thanks for the warning.

Not saying speed was a factor, but imo a 30mph limit is too fast for that road. There's always a lot going on, i.e. people stepping into the road, buses pulling in/out, cars parking, traffic emerging, etc.

Err no, that’s exactly what you’re saying, as another poster noted, you’re obsessed.

[said]

Err no, that’s exactly what you’re saying, as another poster noted, you’re obsessed.

Actually, Eastbank Street is a complete nightmare! The lights take ages to change, there is often a long line of traffic piling up. Cars should not be allowed to park on that road at all, they create hazards for buses and lorries, blind spots for motorists and pedestrians, and where cars are parked near the Chapel Street Junction the Road is made very narrow. I have had one collision and several near collisions on that Road due to motorists paying attention to other hazard factors on the road - it is a completely idiotic situation.

I believe from what I have been told that a Land Rover pulled out of a parking space without checking behind him, collided into an oncoming car, shunting it into a bus.

[jamyramy]

an pnp in his backpud clad legs left the chaos left in speed beyond years expactef to nere be seen but whats left.(allegedly)hahax

[libraryguy]

Bikes, prams, kids, dogs, leccy buggies, L-drivers, you name it.....even motorised idiots driving into parked vehicles!

Fact the street is lined with parked cars doesn't help. They obscure the view, making it hard to see who/what is about to step/roll out in front of you.

I'd make the whole street 20mph from the roundabout, remove the on-street parking - and replace it with a couple of nice wide bike lanes.

I'm sure all the businesses on Eastbank street are fully in favour of your idea. (Cue sarcasm)

You're hell-bent on removing every single car on the road - you're mad! Town centres have busy roads, cope with them instead of asking the nanny state to keep you safe.

You can't eradicate accidents, but you can try and reduce them. But in your mind - everything is the drivers fault, but the cyclists are saints on the roads.

Grow a pair!

[gazaprop]

The report on the other site suggests pulling out into the path of another vehicle was the cause.
My first job in the investigation would be a close look at the mobile phone records of those involved.

[The PNP]

Whats the point of bike lanes people don't use them especially the anti-social lycra clad ones imagining their in the tour de france.

Points are...

1) On-street parking along busy main/arterial routes is a bad idea. It causes accidents, like this one where a Chelsea tractor pulls away and sideswipes someone passing by - the victim could easily have been on a bike! On-street parking also blocks a drivers view of pavement hazards - and blocks their view of all the shopfronts too.

2) Several businesses have their own dedicated parking at the rear anyway. There is also on-street parking in most of the side streets, for those that require it. Not to mention many spaces at the NCP, just around the corner on Tulketh St.

3) Lycra types rarely ride in town, there's very little clear tarmac. Those guys prefer to head out into the countryside. In town it's generally shoppers that are trying to use bikes.

4) Safe bike lanes encourage people to cycle, rather than clog up the place with their bulky smelly cars. This reduces pollution/CO2 emissions, whilst reducing wear and tear of road surfaces. Resulting in a healthier, less noisy and more pleasant shopping environment.

[libraryguy]

The victim wasn't on a bloody bike you idiot! It's highly unlikely to have been a bike as they would have been riding on the pavement!

[libraryguy]

The report on the other site suggests pulling out into the path of another vehicle was the cause.
My first job in the investigation would be a close look at the mobile phone records of those involved.

I would never condone mobile phone use, but when pulling out and away from a parking space, you need both hands on the wheel, looking in your mirrors. I doubt anyone would be able to use a mobile while doing all that at once.

A mobile is not the universal excuse for every accident.

Sometimes accidents just happen no matter how careful you are. It's called Human Error. Hopefully, we learn from our mistakes.