Immigration

[Stuartli]

Do you happen to know what those Philippine staff have to go through? Have you any idea how they are treated?

The NHS would not collapse - have you any idea how many British people are attending University right now for NHS work?

Of course I know how they are treated. First class, as their work at Southport and Aintree hospitals proves for a start when caring for my wife. Furthermore their work ethic is outstanding as with 99 per cent of those from abroad who work here.

You really should stick to making observations on subjects of which you have some knowledge, but that means you'd disappear for long periods.... Now there's a thought.

PS

"The majority of NHS staff in England are British – but around 15% are not. Around 190,000 out of 1.35 million staff report a non-British nationality. This is 14.6% of all staff for whom a nationality is known, or one in seven.


"Between them, these staff hold over 200 different nationalities. Over 70,000 are EU nationals – 5.4% of NHS staff in England. Over 75,000 (5.8%) report an Asian nationality. This data is correct at March 2021."

[local]

I think the issue of immigrant staffing is skewed by local experience in Southport compared to say London where there is a much higher prevalence of people from across the world.

Hopefully, now we are out of the horrendous and racist EU we can start appreciating our workers from around the world more and treating them better.

The days of shipping in cheap labour en masse from the poorer parts of the EU was always for the benefit of the corporations.

[Desert Region]

C) We have (or had) equivalents with the other EU States in qualifications, skills, standards, training, dress code, etc. And as I mentioned above, we also had as part of our membership, an obligation to allow EU'ers access to the UK.

It's often been noted that, unsurprisingly, the UK has much in common with many other members of the Commonwealth.

For examples...

Commonwealth Family

Commonwealth countries share many links outside government, with over a hundred Commonwealth-wide non-governmental organisations, notably for sport, culture, education, law and charity. The Association of Commonwealth Universities is an important vehicle for academic links, particularly through scholarships, principally the Commonwealth Scholarship, for students to study in universities in other Commonwealth countries. There are also many non-official associations that bring together individuals who work within the spheres of law and government, such as the Commonwealth Lawyers Association and the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association.

Culture

Many Commonwealth nations possess traditions and customs that are elements of a shared Commonwealth culture. Examples include common sports such as cricket and rugby, driving on the left, the Westminster system of parliamentary democracy, common law, widespread use of the English language, designation of English as an official language, military and naval ranks, and the use of British rather than American spelling conventions (see English in the Commonwealth of Nations)

[...etc.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common...tions#Politics


Despite the commonalities between many Commonwealth members you focus exclusively on the overlaps between the UK and the EU. Do you think the UK has less in common with, for an example, Australia, than it has with Bulgaria, Hungary or Lithuania?

Of course, there's many African countries in the Commonwealth...

We have (or had) equivalents with the other EU States in...dress code, etc.

Dress code?! What on earth is this EU-wide dress code you're imagining?!

[Hamble]

I think the issue of immigrant staffing is skewed by local experience in Southport compared to say London where there is a much higher prevalence of people from across the world.

Hopefully, now we are out of the horrendous and racist EU we can start appreciating our workers from around the world more and treating them better.

The days of shipping in cheap labour en masse from the poorer parts of the EU was always for the benefit of the corporations.

I notice it.
Southport is like walking into a National Trust grounds culturally.

[Desert Region]

You really should stick to making observations on subjects of which you have some knowledge, but that means you'd disappear for long periods.... Now there's a thought.

Ooph!

You almost had me feeling pity for Said!

[The PNP]

Dress code?! What on earth is this EU-wide dress code you're imagining?!

Let's put it this way, EU'ers will dress much the same, i.e. trousers, shirt, raincoat, occasional hat/cap, etc. Yes, I'm generalising here, but feel sure you know what I mean....Whereas non-EU'ers may be seen wearing garb that is perhaps more commonplace in a town like Kabul. E.g. full-length robes, headgear with only a horizontal front slit in it, etc.

I've also noticed that non EU'ers frequently reside in specific areas, which can end up giving a place the appearance of a 'ghetto'. Whereas EU'ers who came to live here, were more commonly to be found well dispersed. To sum up, EU'ers tended to integrate and made an attempt to blend in. Whereas, some of these non-EU'ers we're getting now, seem to take it upon themselves to stand out.

[Desert Region]

Let's put it this way, EU'ers will dress much the same, i.e. trousers, shirt, raincoat, occasional hat/cap, etc. Yes, I'm generalising here, but feel sure you know what I mean....Whereas non-EU'ers may be seen wearing garb that is perhaps more commonplace in a town like Kabul. E.g. full-length robes, headgear with only a horizontal front slit in it, etc.

I've also noticed that non EU'ers frequently reside in specific areas, which can end up giving a place the appearance of a 'ghetto'. Whereas EU'ers who came to live here, were more commonly to be found well dispersed. To sum up, EU'ers tended to integrate and made an attempt blend in. Whereas, some of these non-EU'ers we're getting now, seem to take it upon themselves to stand out.

Jesus wept!

[seivad]

Let's put it this way, EU'ers will dress much the same, i.e. trousers, shirt, raincoat, occasional hat/cap, etc. Yes, I'm generalising here, but feel sure you know what I mean....Whereas non-EU'ers may be seen wearing garb that is perhaps more commonplace in a town like Kabul. E.g. full-length robes, headgear with only a horizontal front slit in it, etc.

I've also noticed that non EU'ers frequently reside in specific areas, which can end up giving a place the appearance of a 'ghetto'. Whereas EU'ers who came to live here, were more commonly to be found well dispersed. To sum up, EU'ers tended to integrate and made an attempt blend in. Whereas, some of these non-EU'ers we're getting now, seem to take it upon themselves to stand out.

Just because you're no longer referring to people as 'whitemen' doesn't mean we'll forget how you showed your true colours at the beginning of this thread. Too little, too late.

These non-EUers, aka brown people, how very dare they not try to emulate their white hosts? They should follow the example of the Brits when they settle elsewhere. I'm sure you'll agree with me that they make every effort to learn the native language and enjoy the local cuisine. I could go on, but I'll leave it there. Assimilation perfection

Do you have a problem seeing people who aren't dressed like white people? If so, why? It doesn't impact your life one iota. Plus, in WASPY Southport I doubt that you see many exotic dressers.

[The PNP]

Just because you're no longer referring to people as 'whitemen' doesn't mean we'll forget how you showed your true colours at the beginning of this thread. Too little, too late.

These non-EUers, aka brown people, how very dare they not try to emulate their white hosts? They should follow the example of the Brits when they settle elsewhere. I'm sure you'll agree with me that they make every effort to learn the native language and enjoy the local cuisine. I could go on, but I'll leave it there. Assimilation perfection

Do you have a problem seeing people who aren't dressed like white people? If so, why? It doesn't impact your life one iota. Plus, in WASPY Southport I doubt that you see many exotic dressers.

Whatever happened to 'when in Rome...etc'

[seivad]

Whatever happened to 'when in Rome...etc'

Whatever happened to acceptance of the fact that we all differ? And what the hell does it matter if others aren't dressed like you are? If you travel to other countries, do you wear their cultural clothing? Personally I couldn't give a damn what anyone else wears.

Reading your comments, I feel like I'm back in the 50s. The bigotry we saw then is best left on the pages of history. It has no place in today's world.

[The PNP]

Whatever happened to acceptance of the fact that we all differ? And what the hell does it matter if others aren't dressed like you are? If you travel to other countries, do you wear their cultural clothing? Personally I couldn't give a damn what anyone else wears.

Reading your comments, I feel like I'm back in the 50s. The bigotry we saw then is best left on the pages of history. It has no place in today's world.

I've no big problem with people wearing outlandish garb per se. Even to the extent of males dressing as females, or vice versa - each to his own is fine by me......What does though seem out of place, is the way whole areas end up looking like parts of the Middle East.

[Hamble]

Ooph!

You almost had me feeling pity for Said!

[Hamble]

I've no big problem with people wearing outlandish garb per se. Even to the extent of males dressing as females, or vice versa - each to his own is fine by me......What does though seem out of place, is the way whole areas end up looking like parts of the Middle East.

Some women view lycra shrunk anatomically correct man as outlandish.

[The PNP]

Some women view lycra shrunk anatomically correct man as outlandish.

Lol....no imagination necessary!

[Toodles McGinty]

I'm quite shocked by the language and racism in this thread.

And I speak as one who effs and jeffs with alacrity.

Not the individual words, though. The attitude. This white supremacy - they-aren't-like-us, the you must assimilate like the 'Borg' bullcrap.

I can only repeat what others have said far more eloquently than I could. We've repeatedly invaded other countries, like many other European nations, and taken what we liked because we had bigger guns. Those countries won't have 'developed' any more or less quickly.

Immigration, not invasion, enriches countries. This idea of 'white Britain' is nonsense. Britain is Britain because we've been welcoming immigrants since time immemorial.

I don't care how white your skin is, you're a mixture of many races. Mine's nearly opaque (down to my Scottish side), but a gene test shows I'm a total mongrel: European, Middle Eastern, African, and even some far east. My daughter has been called the 'P' word her entire life. She isn't. But just by those thick racist trolls saying that, I can see why some cultures find safety in numbers. Just as the Brits on the Costa Del Whatever gather in fish and chips and bingo 'enclaves'. Only here they get called 'ghettos'. Enclaves for 'us', ghettos for 'them'.

I suspect if any can claim pure white Britishness, their gene pool is narrow enough to have some of their ancestors arrested.

Even our language, that we proudly claim is spoken worldwide, is a mish-mash of other languages.

Regarding 'dress', again what is 'British'? Are racist men going back to wearing skirts then? Because trousers are probably Chinese.

As far as European immigration is concerned, like us, those countries have large populations of dark skinned people. So we can allow FOM and they won't all be white. But more importantly, WTAF does it matter?

I would say that I do agree we may struggle a tad under the weight of 70 billion more people. Insert your own 'face palm' gif.