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Originally Posted by The PNP
It's regrettable that such measures are needed at all. However, without them, bike-lanes often end up being used as linear car-parks. If not bollards (wands), what else could be done to protect these lanes and the riders using them?
Queens road cycle lane is a great example. There’s normally at least 2 or 3 cars parked straddling the cycle lane during the day, left there by entitled owners at various points along its length.
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Queens road cycle lane is a great example. There’s normally at least 2 or 3 cars parked straddling the cycle lane during the day, left there by entitled owners at various points along its length.
Queens Rd should have been made one way with parking one side, a cycle lane the other and traffic down the middle with Albert Rd similar the opposite direction. Traffic flows would have been improved making it safer.
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Originally Posted by donkey22
Queens road cycle lane is a great example. There’s normally at least 2 or 3 cars parked straddling the cycle lane during the day, left there by entitled owners at various points along its length.
Judging by this photograph, the "cycle lane" is comprised merely of broken lines on the outer edge.
As there is no continuous line, then "No parking" is not mandatory. Some leeway has to be provided for delivery drivers, visitors etc to be able to call at premises.
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Originally Posted by Stuartli
As there is no continuous line, then "No parking" is not mandatory. Some leeway has to be provided for delivery drivers, visitors etc to be able to call at premises.
Amazon/Tesco etc, pulling in for a minute here and there isn't the problem, whereas lazy motorists are......Take the black car in the pic, hogging the whole width of the cycle-lane when there's clearly plenty of space on that driveway!
It's the same old pattern of behaviour I've witnessed time and again in the area for years. E.g. ever since PNR became a cycle route with a lane along each side, people have happily parked on it, despite there often being space up their driveways.....Riders put up with it, accepting that some motorists don't know any better. But I wonder how many motorists would put up with cyclists 'parking' their bikes in the middle of the main carriageway!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Take the black car in the pic, hogging the whole width of the cycle-lane when there's clearly plenty of space on that driveway!
The car owner might not live there or be visiting there!
I don't know about you but I tend not to park on random driveways.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
The car owner might not live there or be visiting there!
I don't know about you but I tend not to park on random driveways.
True, we don't know who or why they left it there, but I know what my money's on!
And take a look at the silver car on the left, 'parked' with two wheels on the pavement, when there's no earthly reason to do that - it's not exactly a narrow road!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
True, we don't know who or why they left it there, but I know what my money's on!
And take a look at the silver car on the left, 'parked' with two wheels on the pavement, when there's no earthly reason to do that - it's not exactly a narrow road!
So, that’s you being a complete gob****e yet again……and admitting to it.
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Originally Posted by justbecause
So, that’s you being a complete gob****e yet again……and admitting to it.
Don't know about you, but rather than leave it by some random house, I park right outside the property I'm in. And if I'm parking to walk into town, I don't leave it further away than I have to, certainly not halfway down a road - duh!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
But I wonder how many motorists would put up with cyclists 'parking' their bikes in the middle of the main carriageway!
They would hopefully be picked up by a rogue scrap dealer,after the bikes have been driven over by a few wagon drivers.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Don't know about you, but rather than leave it by some random house, I park right outside the property I'm in. And if I'm parking to walk into town, I don't leave it further away than I have to, certainly not halfway down a road - duh!
So where do YOU manage to park your car now when shopping in town ? Because EVERY shop you go in,you CANNOT be parked near to it,as there are cycle lanes,and car parking spaces are obviously restricted now because of them ? And don't tell us that everywhere you shop there is a parking space nearby for your vehicle,so that you don't have to walk far when carrying your goods back to your vehicle....Or do you always park at Central 12,Ocean Plaza,or Morrisons,as they are virtually the ONLY places available to park now in Southport town centre..
...You really do make a habit of making pathetic excuses,and the holes you keep digging are getting bigger and bigger every time you make a comment....
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Originally Posted by The PNP
It's the same old pattern of behaviour I've witnessed time and again in the area for years. E.g. ever since PNR became a cycle route with a lane along each side, people have happily parked on it, despite there often being space up their driveways.....Riders put up with it, accepting that some motorists don't know any better. But I wonder how many motorists would put up with cyclists 'parking' their bikes in the middle of the main carriageway!
It's the same old argument from you, despite the fact that you've been told often enough that the cycle lanes on PNR are marked by broken lines and, therefore, that "No Parking" is NOT mandatory.
But, of course, you keep on making false statements in the belief that eventually some will come to believe them.
People visiting houses for one reason or another should be able to park without some occasional cyclist bitterly complaining that they've had to pull out to overtake a stationary vehicle.
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Originally Posted by said
I am given to understand that these have been installed in an area where there are several old people's homes. These do have subdued lights on them but many people go out without wearing their glasses in the winter. Many local business people have complained.
So people who need to wear glasses to see where they are going, will risk tripping up, or some such accident, rather than experiencing a few minutes inconvenience when their glasses fog up when they go indoors? Makes perfect sense
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Don't know about you, but rather than leave it by some random house, I park right outside the property I'm in. And if I'm parking to walk into town, I don't leave it further away than I have to, certainly not halfway down a road - duh!
If they'd parked nearer to town on Queens Road they'd be on double yellow lines which start next door but one to where they have parked.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
And take a look at the silver car on the left, 'parked' with two wheels on the pavement, when there's no earthly reason to do that - it's not exactly a narrow road!
They were probably trying to be considerate by not completely blocking the cycle lane.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
They were probably trying to be considerate by not completely blocking the cycle lane.
Perhaps. But leaving a mere 6inches of lane (with protruding wing-mirror as a hazard) is of dubious benefit......The photo does however clearly demonstrate what happens to cycle-lanes without physical measures to keep cars off - they invariably get left on them!
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