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    Cars parking on pavements

    In Southport there seems to be a lot of cars parking on the pavements, it’s ridiculous, it’s not good if you have a disability, no one is enforcing this law, it’s getting worse, cars should be on the road not the pavements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommylee View Post
    In Southport there seems to be a lot of cars parking on the pavements, it’s ridiculous, it’s not good if you have a disability, no one is enforcing this law, it’s getting worse, cars should be on the road not the pavements.

    It would be impossible to have a blanket ban on cars parking on the pavements because so many streets are so narrow, that for cars to park in the road would lead to roads becoming blocked. Cars that are parked on public pavements outside shops should not be allowed for these are highly dangerous to pedestrians, especially when reversing. But drivers could also argue that pavements are blocked anyway with tables and chairs outside restaurants. It appears it could be a case of all or nothing.

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    But having cars parked on pavements should be a definite no, roads are for cars not pavements. I have even seen loads today on pavements, some I had to go into the road to pass them, It’s annoying, not very wheelchair friendly is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzone1 View Post
    But having cars parked on pavements should be a definite no, roads are for cars not pavements. I have even seen loads today on pavements, some I had to go into the road to pass them, It’s annoying, not very wheelchair friendly is it.
    Agree entirely.

    Having found that the police received around 200 complaints per year, about bikes on pavements, we decided to even up the score.....So, in just a six week period several years ago, our group reported well over 200 cases of cars and vans left on pavements around town.

    Our reports, along with accompanying photos, were sent in batches to the Chief Constable. The end result was a letter from his office, intimating that we were 'wasting police time' - duh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Agree entirely.

    Having found that the police received around 200 complaints per year, about bikes on pavements, we decided to even up the score.....So, in just a six week period several years ago, our group reported well over 200 cases of cars and vans left on pavements around town.

    Our reports, along with accompanying photos, were sent in batches to the Chief Constable. The end result was a letter from his office, intimating that we were 'wasting police time' - duh!
    Yes you where.

    Cars parked on pavements as in all 4 wheel on the pavement should be booked.
    But lots of roads are completely impractical to park when all four wheels on the road. Emergency services get in a situation where they can't attend in incident.
    I think it's common sense and common practice to park with 2 wheels onto the pavement, And no that's not because that's how a park usually, I park up a drive at home (Usually with neighbours cars abandoned outside my house, only time it's been a big issue is when they parked fully on the road and I ended up having to get them to move it so a fire engine could get through.) and in a yard/car park at work.

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    Cars should have no business to be on a pavement, it’s disgraceful to be honest that cars think they own the pavement, Cemetery Road is bad with cars parking on pavements blocking people’s path.

    This is a real problem in Southport and needs sorting out, and as for emergency services if cars parked correctly they could easily pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzone1 View Post
    Cars should have no business to be on a pavement, it’s disgraceful to be honest that cars think they own the pavement, Cemetery Road is bad with cars parking on pavements blocking people’s path.

    This is a real problem in Southport and needs sorting out, and as for emergency services if cars parked correctly they could easily pass.
    No they can't. To many roads are to narrow in Southport and in general.
    Cars aren't going anywhere get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    No they can't. To many roads are to narrow in Southport and in general.
    Cars aren't going anywhere get used to it.
    From your opinion then, let’s have cars take up public footpaths, that’s the problem with this town, no one cares anymore.

    There is some wide roads in Southport and cars still park on the pavement, why should we get used to it, wheelchair uses and parents with prams shouldn’t be going on the road to pass parked cars on the pavements.

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    Owners of any vehicle should also REVERSE into their driveways when parked off the road,as this is MORE dangerous than with a vehicle parking with 2 wheels on the pavements,a moving vehicle reversing out over the pavement causes more accidents,as I have seen articles in the past where a pedestrian has been injured,even family members have been known to injure,and in some cases fatally injured a small child when reversing,as they did NOT see the child as the vehicle was too high to see,with blind spots behind the vehicle...As long as the driver has NOT blocked the pavement,and leaving more than 1 metre of space for pedestrians to pass on the inside,then they are technically NOT blocking the pavement,but some drivers who do NOT leave 1 metre for a pedestrian,or a disabled or visually impaired person to pass inside of the parked vehicle,then these are the drivers who should be cautioned ,or fined for inconsiderate parking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzone1 View Post
    From your opinion then, let’s have cars take up public footpaths, that’s the problem with this town, no one cares anymore.

    There is some wide roads in Southport and cars still park on the pavement, why should we get used to it, wheelchair uses and parents with prams shouldn’t be going on the road to pass parked cars on the pavements.
    I'm not talking about wide roads though am I, and I know all about the struggles of prams and wheelchairs. I have an 18 year old son who is in a wheel chair. I also like the idea that if anything happens to him an ambulance can get to him and not get stuck behind parked cars.

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    A lot of drivers just don’t care how they park their car, they think they have a right to park and block the pavement.

    The problem today is there is too many cars on our roads.

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    There have been several attempts by MPs to put forward private members bills to outlaw this. The last one was moving forward when the (Tory) government promised to address the problem with new government "consultations" and the bill was dropped.
    There is a new private bill which was introduced in the House of Lords last year which seems to be stuck due to covid.
    https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2563
    Hopefully we will see some movement on it in the coming months.

    Current government "thinking" here https://researchbriefings.files.parl...70/SN01170.pdf

    The Transport Select Committee report in 2019 came out in favour of a ban in England

    It is already banned in Greater London and Scotland introduced a national ban in 2019 which has yet to be implemented, again due to covid.

    Regarding previous posts, the idea of leaving a space for pedestrians doesn't always work where the pavements are narrow.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveandLois View Post
    Owners of any vehicle should also REVERSE into their driveways when parked off the road,as this is MORE dangerous than with a vehicle parking with 2 wheels on the pavements,a moving vehicle reversing out over the pavement causes more accidents,as I have seen articles in the past where a pedestrian has been injured,even family members have been known to injure,and in some cases fatally injured a small child when reversing,as they did NOT see the child as the vehicle was too high to see,with blind spots behind the vehicle...As long as the driver has NOT blocked the pavement,and leaving more than 1 metre of space for pedestrians to pass on the inside,then they are technically NOT blocking the pavement,but some drivers who do NOT leave 1 metre for a pedestrian,or a disabled or visually impaired person to pass inside of the parked vehicle,then these are the drivers who should be cautioned ,or fined for inconsiderate parking...
    You really need to start proof reading your own posts before clicking done.
    Your post makes no sense at all, plus your grammar is dreadful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    Yes you where.

    Cars parked on pavements as in all 4 wheel on the pavement should be booked.
    But lots of roads are completely impractical to park when all four wheels on the road. Emergency services get in a situation where they can't attend in incident.
    I think it's common sense and common practice to park with 2 wheels onto the pavement, And no that's not because that's how a park usually, I park up a drive at home (Usually with neighbours cars abandoned outside my house, only time it's been a big issue is when they parked fully on the road and I ended up having to get them to move it so a fire engine could get through.) and in a yard/car park at work.
    Totally agree there are some instances when parking partially on the pavement is preferable and safer than parking fully on the road.

    If managed properly it can ease traffic flow while leaving the footpaths clear for prams , wheelchairs etc. This system is already used by a number of councils.
     

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