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Originally Posted by said
Only because the Unions have threatened to withdraw their financial support of the Labour Party, without which there would not be a Labour Party at all. The Unions are located in Brussels and make most of their money from the EU members - they have a very vested interest. The Unions plan to put their own business above that of the democracy of the UK. It is a distinct conflict of interests. Any Labour voters should be disgusted that their Party, backed by the Unions, are attempting to hold the country to ransom - anyone with an iota of common sense can see through this, surely?
My Union is not located in Brussels it is located in Clerkenwell, London.
As for the Unions giving Financial Support to Labour it only gives what is collected in the optional Political Levy which in 50 years of Union Membership I have NEVER paid. I like 90+% of Union Members joined for the protection and benefits it offers myself and my family not to prop up the Labour Party. As a retired working man I am confident that Conservatives offer nothing of benefit to me or my family.
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Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
1) Why did he think his job title allowed him to claim gardening expenses?
2) He paid it back because he got caught!
3) Fraud, theft from the NHS by con men , which one would you like to talk about?
1. David Cameron – Prime Minister
Handed a peerage to nursing and care home tycoon Dolar Popat, who has given the Tories more than £200,000 in donations.
2. Andrew Lansley - Former Health Secretary & architect of privatisation
Received a £21,000 donation in Nov 2009 from John Nash, the former chairman of Care UK.
3. Harriet Baldwin – Tory whip
Former executive at JP Morgan, a major player in private healthcare.
4. Greg Barker – former Energy Minister
Held shares in Quester VCT 5 plc ,a venture capital firm with multiple investments in healthcare companies.
5. Henry Bellingham
Former director of Lansdowne Advisory Ltd, which has shares in private healthcare company Circle.
6. Jake Berry
Has registered interests in legal firm Squire Patton Boggs, which worked with multiple NHS trusts on PFI and PPP programs.
7. Graham Brady
Former advisor to PA Consulting, a management consultancy company which has worked with the NHS’s new Clinical Commissioning Groups.
8. Simon Burns – former Health Minister
Attended an oncology conference paid for by Aventis Pharma - a five-day trip to the US funded by a leading drug firm.
9. Nick de Bois
Was the majority shareholder in Rapier Design Group, an events management company heavily involved with the private medical and pharmaceutical industries.
10. Steve Brine
Received almost £15,000 in donations from James Lupton, the chairman of investment bankers, Greenhill Europe which has a global network of corporate relationships in the healthcare sector.
11. Aidan Burley
Received six bottles of wine from Hitachi consultants for a speech in 2011. Hitachi Consulting UK built an online ‘portal’ for NHS commissioners to help them monitor performance.
12. Damian Collins
Spent almost a decade working for marketing agency M&C Saatchi, whose clients include PPP healthcare, AXA insurance, Astrazeneca, Pfizer and Merck
13. David Davis – former shadow home secretary
Received a payment of £4,250 for a six-hour speaking engagement for private health insurance company Aviva.
14. Jonathan Djanogly
Received £1,900 from Huntleigh Healthcare Ltd, which manufactures medical and orthopaedic equipment and instruments.
15. Richard Drax
Received £14,000 in a series of donations from Derek Luckhurst, chief executive and owner of care home group Agincare.
16. Iain Duncan-Smith – Work and Pensions Secretary
Has shares in hygiene technology company Byotrol plc, which sells products to the NHS.
17. Philip Dunne
Was a non-executive director for investment firm Baronsmead VCT 4 plc, which had multiple investments in private healthcare companies.
18. Michael Fallon – Defence Secretary
Former director of Attendo AB, - a Swedish private health company.
19. Mark Field
Was a board advisor to Ellwood and Atfield; a recruitment firm which recruit for NHS positions and private healthcare.
20. Liam Fox – former Defence Secretary
Received £5,000 from investment company IPGL Ltd, who purchased healthcare pharma company Cyprotex.
21. George Freeman
Has shares in Hill House Assets Ltd, formally private health firm 4D Biomedical Ltd.
22. Mike Freer
Provided marketing advice to Care Matters, a financial planning company for care homes.
23. Richard Fuller
Worked for L.E.K consulting, which has six ‘partners’ in European healthcare.
24. Richard Graham
Received £3,000 from asset manager Crispin Odey, a major investor in Circle.
25. William Hague – Leader of the Commons
Received a £20,000 donation from MMC Ventures, which parts owns The Practice plc which runs 60 GP surgeries.
26. Philip Hammond – Foreign Secretary
Beneficiary of a trust which owns a controlling interest in healthcare and nursing home developer Castlemead Ltd.
27. Mark Harper
Received £5,000 from asset manager Crispin Odey, a major investor in Circle.
28. Nick Herbert
Received £15,000 in donations from Caroline Nash, wife of former Care UK chairman John Nash.
29. Jeremy Hunt – Health Secretary
Received £32,920 from hedge fund baron Andrew Law, a major investor in healthcare firms.
30. Margot James
Had a key role at marketing giant WPP Group, which had a long list of healthcare clients.
31. Sajid Javid – Culture Secretary
Received £11,000 from Moundsley Healthcare Ltd last year.
32. Jo Johnson – Downing Street policy adviser
Received £6,000 from asset manager Crispin Odey, a major investor in Circle.
33. Kwarsi Kwateng
Worked as an analyst for for Crispin Odey’s hedge fund Odey Asset Management.
34. Mark Lancaster
Former adviser to property venture capital firm Company Palmer Capital Partners Ltd, a funder of Danescroft Commercial Developments, which has worked in the healthcare sector.
35. Dr Phillip Lee
Has worked as a freelance or Medical Solutions Ltd, which provided medical cover for events.
36. Oliver Letwin – former shadow chancellor
Was a non-executive director of N.M. Rothschild Corporate Finance Ltd, which invests heavily in healthcare.
37. Peter Lilley
Non-Executive director of management software firm Idox plc, which provides services to the NHS Health Libraries Group and NHS Education for Scotland.
38. Tim Loughton
Received £350 for training sessions with Cumberlege Connections, a political networking firm that works “extensively” with the pharmaceutical industry.
39. Mary Macleod
Was a senior executive at Andersen Consulting/Accenture, which has profited from big PFI deals.
40. Francis Maude – Cabinet Office Secretary
Was a director of PR firm Huntsworth plc, which was part of lobbying group Healthcare Communications Association.
41. Maria Miller – former Culture Secretary
Former director of Grey’s Advertising Ltd, an advertising and brand company which worked extensively with clients in the healthcare sector.
42. Andrew Mitchell – former International Development Secretary
Was a strategy adviser to global management firm Accenture, which has worked extensively with private healthcare companies and the NHS.
43. Penny Mordaunt – Communities Minister
Worked for lobbying firm Hanover, where she had a range of healthcare clients.
44. Brooks Newmark – former Charities Minister
Partner in the Allele Fund, which invests in healthcare startups.
45. Jesse Norman
Received £5,000 from asset manager Crispin Odey, a major investor in Circle.
46. Stephen O’Brien
Received payments totalling £40,000 from Julian Schild, whose family made £184million in 2006 by selling hospital bed-makers Huntleigh Technology.
47. George Osborne - Chancellor
Received donation through Conservative Campaign Headquarters from Julian Schild – see above.
48. Priti Patel – Treasury Minister
Worked for lobbying firm Weber Shandwick, which does PR for big healthcare and pharmaceutical firms.
49. John Redwood – former Cabinet Minister
Advised the private equity company which runs Pharmacy2u, the UK’s largest dedicated internet and mail order pharmacy.
50. Jacob Rees-Mogg
Partner of Somerset Capital Management LLP, which has healthcare investor Redwood Emerging Markets Dividend Income Fund as a client.
51. Sir Malcolm Rifkind – former Foreign Secretary
Chairman of advisory board at L.E.K. Consulting LLP, which helps private healthcare firms identify “new business development” and “opportunities with the Government”.
52. Amber Rudd – Energy Minister
Received £3,000 from hedge fund baron Andrew Law, a major investor in healthcare firms.
53. David Ruffley
Received £10,000 in donations from Caroline Nash, wife of former Care UK chairman John Nash.
54. Mark Simmonds – former Foreign Minister
Was paid £50,000 a year as a “strategic adviser” to Circle Health.
55. Chris Skidmore
Received £3,500 for speeches to STAC Consultancy, which specialises in the launch of pharmaceutical products.
56. Julian Smith
Received a £2,500 donation from Principle Healthcare Ltd in September 2014.
57. Nicholas Soames
Received £2,000 from asset manager Crispin Odey, a major investor in Circle.
58. John Stanley
Consultant on financial services to FIL Investment Management Ltd, which invests in healthcare.
59. Andrew Tyrie - select committee chairman
Attended the Ryder Cup as Secretary of the Parliamentary Golf Society, with travel and accommodation paid for by U.S. healthcare services company Humana Europe.
60. Robin Walker:
His office received a £2,000 donation from Redwood Care Homes, which owns multiple care homes.
61. David Willetts – former Universities Minister
Has shares in Sensortec, a company that owns Vantix which was working on a contract for a new product to detect MRSI.
62. Rob Wilson
Had registered shares in Vital Imaging, a private screening company.
63. Tim Yeo
Also attended the 2008 Ryder Cup, courtesy of Humana Europe.
64. Nadhim Zahawi
Non-executive director of recruitment company SThree, which specialises in the Ppharmaceutical and biotechnology sector.
Elliot Morley (Labour)
Went to prison for fraudulently claiming payments for a mortgage that he already paid off.
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[QUOTE=Mr B S Sniffer;6687251]1) Why did he think his job title allowed him to claim gardening expenses?
2) He paid it back because he got caught!
3) Fraud, theft from the NHS by con men , which one would you like to talk about?
You need to know the difference between legal and illegal and concentrate more evenly on guilty politicians from across all party's.
Theft from the nhs is rife by employees which pretty much blows the fundamental belief of an anarchist.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ll-Labour.html
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[QUOTE=Hamble;6687303]
Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
1) Why did he think his job title allowed him to claim gardening expenses?
2) He paid it back because he got caught!
3) Fraud, theft from the NHS by con men , which one would you like to talk about?
You need to know the difference between legal and illegal and concentrate more evenly on guilty politicians from across all party's.
Theft from the nhs is rife by employees which pretty much blows the fundamental belief of an anarchist.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ll-Labour.html
Reverting to name calling again I see!
When will the double standards resurface?
You'd get my vote for hypocrite of the year should I be asked
Last edited by Mr B S Sniffer; 10/07/2019 at 12:58 PM.
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[QUOTE=Hamble;6687303]
Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
1) Why did he think his job title allowed him to claim gardening expenses?
2) He paid it back because he got caught!
3) Fraud, theft from the NHS by con men , which one would you like to talk about?
You need to know the difference between legal and illegal and concentrate more evenly on guilty politicians from across all party's.
Theft from the nhs is rife by employees which pretty much blows the fundamental belief of an anarchist.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ll-Labour.html
Haselhurst is a crooked Tory......FACT!
Last edited by Mr B S Sniffer; 10/07/2019 at 12:57 PM.
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who are the labour party?...no one knows
they said they would respect the will of the people but..now changed their mind 3 years on...who do they now represent??...no one knows...the working person..the remainer, the leaver, the muslim base, the pensioner,,the immigrant...corbyn has tried to cover every base....now finally they are showing their true colours.....relying on the base of anti semitic immigrants as that is an expanding base especially in london leeds and birmingham, and now remainers... as they have seen liberal gains....labour are completely lost and confused in a forest of views, they dont know which way to turn,,,they are chasing votes from anywhere they can because they are bankrupt and now 4th in the polls...but they have now abandoned their core historical voters,,the blue collar british workers who have seen their wages pushed down by eu migrants,,lorry drivers, builders factory workers etc etc...i predict labour will now self distruct, which is a shame, they have lost their direction by bad advise from momentum group etc
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
...the blue collar british workers who have seen their wages pushed down by eu migrants,,lorry drivers, builders factory workers etc etc..
And that is Labour's fault?
Could you explain why, as I didn't think they'd been in power since 2010. And I thought that this government have the powers to restrict immigration, but just haven't used them.
What can Labour do if those blue collar workers decide to vote for UKIP or the idiot Fromage?
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
And that is Labour's fault?
Could you explain why, as I didn't think they'd been in power since 2010. And I thought that this government have the powers to restrict immigration, but just haven't used them.
What can Labour do if those blue collar workers decide to vote for UKIP or the idiot Fromage?
Labours Tony Blur,
Tony Blair has admitted he did not realise how many migrants would come to the UK when he opened Britain's borders to millions of European workers.
The former Labour leader relaxed immigration controls in 2004 after 10 new nations including Poland, Lithuania and Hungary, were admitted to the EU.
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This thread has pure Tory defence system all over it.
I think ANY right minded person of whatever Political persuasion would deem this Tory Government as the worst in Parliamentary history. The only thing that separates them from a bucket of pig dung is the bucket yet a bloody Tory starts a thread about Labours deficiencies
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
This thread has pure Tory defence system all over it.
I think ANY right minded person of whatever Political persuasion would deem this Tory Government as the worst in Parliamentary history. The only thing that separates them from a bucket of pig dung is the bucket yet a bloody Tory starts a thread about Labours deficiencies
She'll be on later after she's watched panorama
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
This thread has pure Tory defence system all over it.
I think ANY right minded person of whatever Political persuasion would deem this Tory Government as the worst in Parliamentary history. The only thing that separates them from a bucket of pig dung is the bucket yet a bloody Tory starts a thread about Labours deficiencies
The problem is this pig dung Tory Government beat Labour at a general election which puts them firmly in a cess pit.
Now the Tories look like they will be getting some one electable and those of us who want an alternative look at Corbyn and his shadow cabinet and weep.
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Originally Posted by local
The problem is this pig dung Tory Government beat Labour at a general election which puts them firmly in a cess pit.
Now the Tories look like they will be getting some one electable and those of us who want an alternative look at Corbyn and his shadow cabinet and weep.
Frightening really that the dregs at the bottom of the barrel on both sides are being offered to us as credible governments.
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Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
Frightening really that the dregs at the bottom of the barrel on both sides are being offered to us as credible governments.
Or perhaps the reality is neither of them is that bad ?
Both parties are torn over Brexit and elected the wrong person to lead them.
The Tories are changing theirs and perhaps Labour should do the same.
Give them some time and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by local
Now the Tories look like they will be getting some one electable and those of us who want an alternative look at Corbyn and his shadow cabinet and weep.
I don't consider Johnson as electable, except of course by the blue rinse brigade who would elect a gorilla if it was wearing a blue rosette. Neither do I consider Corbyn a credible leader as with Milliband and Brown before him.
Over my lifetime there have been some great politicians of various political persuasions but now the "career politicians" straight from University without a clue of real life ( Blair Cameron Hague Johnson Osborne Hunt Umuna for example ) are in the ascendancy and Politics is awash with Idealists instead of graduates from the University of Life who actually have a clue about what their electorate want from an MP. Going into the job thinking you are right and the electorate wrong is now reaping the very sour fruit it deserves.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
I don't consider Johnson as electable, except of course by the blue rinse brigade who would elect a gorilla if it was wearing a blue rosette. Neither do I consider Corbyn a credible leader as with Milliband and Brown before him.
Over my lifetime there have been some great politicians of various political persuasions but now the "career politicians" straight from University without a clue of real life ( Blair Cameron Hague Johnson Osborne Hunt Umuna for example ) are in the ascendancy and Politics is awash with Idealists instead of graduates from the University of Life who actually have a clue about what their electorate want from an MP. Going into the job thinking you are right and the electorate wrong is now reaping the very sour fruit it deserves.
Thats a bit of a mixed message Boris clearly had and continues to have a career outside politics.
Blair was a Barrister.
Hague worked at Mckinsey and Company.
Chuka worked as a Lawyer.
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