Question Time

[justbecause]

There must be careers she is more suited to than politics.

Suitable job opportunities must be scarce for people with so few skills as she has.

[salus.populi]

Are you sure of your information?
Be a dear and look it up.

I looked it up before i posted so, yes dear, I'm sure.

Stephan Shakespeare
Nadhim Zahawi
Roger Parry

[Hamble]

I suppose I should celebrate that you replied to one of my posts actually on topic instead of the usual tangent, but it's weird (borderline comedy tbh) how you still don't seem able to acknowledge that you posted a link which (whilst trying to argue against his point) actually backed up what Salus said (specifically, about Bruce being incorrect saying Labour were behind in the polls).

I don't have a specific axe to grind with Bruce, and although others have used the word "lie" (and their comments have been quoted in some of my responses so I can understand you confusion), I believe I used the word "mistaken" (as in that she was probably badly advised).

Having previously seen the video clip on social media, I have already detailed the actual (Bruce/Abbot) exchange in a previous post, and Abbot uses the word "polls" (plural) and Bruce interrupts her using the same word... trying to say now that it was one specific poll is once again a borderline comedy moment.

Finally, you once again used the word "apologised" ... can you show us ANYWHERE where the BBC have actually use the phrases "we are sorry for" or "we apologise for" or similar, as all we have from them so far is a statement that says "we should have made it clear" ... that's a statement, not an apology.

Who is 'us'?

Dianne Abbott had 2 separate complaints against Question Time/Fiona Bruce.
One was on the poll results the other on the 'treatment of Dianne Abbott before the show was aired.

The BBC released a statement.
Quote
"In a statement on Friday the BBC said: "We are sorry to hear Diane Abbott's concerns over Thursday's edition of Question Time and we have contacted her team to reassure them that reports circulating on social media are inaccurate and misleading.

"Diane is a regular and important contributor to the programme.

"As we said earlier, we firmly reject claims that any of the panel was treated unfairly either before or during the recording."

The BBC also said it reviewed the polling figures used in the programme, and that while a YouGov poll on the day of the programme put the Conservatives ahead, Ms Abbott was "right to say other polls suggested Labour was either ahead or tied".

The BBC added: "We should have made that clear."




The second complaint is still ongoing.
Hopefully the BBC are investigating and will own up if Dianne Abbott was mistreated.



BBC apologises to Diane Abbott after Labour complains ...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...s-diane-abbott...

The BBC has apologised to Diane Abbott after Labour made a formal complaint about the “unacceptable” treatment of the shadow home secretary on Question Time last week.



BBC apologises to Diane Abbott after Labour complaint ... - Trendolizer


uk.trendolizer.com/.../bbc-apologises-to-diane-abbott-after-labour-complaint-about-q...





Viewing figures for QT tonight should go up.

[Hamble]

Suitable job opportunities must be scarce for people with so few skills as she has.

I don't doubt her intelligence she is just not the best employee to put behind a microphone or camera or a biro.

[Hamble]

salus.populi;6665705]I looked it up before i posted so, yes dear, I'm sure.

Stephan Shakespeare
Nadhim Zahawi
Roger Parry[/QUOTE]

Quote

"In 2000, Shakespeare founded YouGov with Nadhim Zahawi. In 2001, YouGov predicted Labour’s 10-point general election victory to within one percentage pointAfter a spell as the joint CEO with co-founder Zahawi, Shakespeare took the title of Chief Innovations Officer until he became sole CEO in May 2010, when Zahawi resigned from the board in order to stand for election to the House of Commons. As of October 2014, Shakespeare owned about 6 percent of YouGov's shares.

In July 2008, The Guardian listed Shakespeare as among the top 100 media personalities in the UK, calling him "the pollster with the uncanny ability of getting it right."[


Nadhim Zahawi had to resign when he became an MP.

Roger Parry.
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"In 2003 it was suggested that Parry as Chairman of Johnston Press might have agreed to the sacking of the editor of a local paper in Hartlepool who had been critical of his local MP Peter Mandelson at the request of the Prime Minister Tony Blair. Parry was highly critical of the Hartlepool Mail editor in a speech he gave to the Johnston Press Editors' conference. The attack was so pointed that North East Press (a division of Johnston Press) Editorial Director Andrew Smith raised the speech with Chief Executive Tim Bowdler. Mandelson, Blair and Parry had been contemporaries at Oxford University in the late 1970s. All three men subsequently denied the allegation. Hartlepool Mail editor Harry Blackwood subsequently accepted an out of court settlement from Johnston Press.



YouGov is an international Internet-based market research and data analytics firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.

In April 2005, YouGov became a public company listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange. Major shareholders of the company are BlackRock and Standard Life Aberdeen

[salus.populi]

Shakespeare, the firm's CEO, once stood as a Conservative candidate for Colchester; he was also a Conservative Party pollster. He's the former own er of the Conservative Home website.Co-founder Nadhim Zahawi has been the Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Stratford upon Avon since 2010. He joined the Conservative government in 2010.Chairman Roger Parry was commissioned in 2009 by the Conservative Party to write a report on the future of local media.His proposals on local TV were subsequently adopted as Government policy by Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt

[Hamble]

Shakespeare, the firm's CEO, once stood as a Conservative candidate for Colchester; he was also a Conservative Party pollster. He's the former own er of the Conservative Home website.Co-founder Nadhim Zahawi has been the Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Stratford upon Avon since 2010. He joined the Conservative government in 2010.Chairman Roger Parry was commissioned in 2009 by the Conservative Party to write a report on the future of local media.His proposals on local TV were subsequently adopted as Government policy by Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt

Can you read the wiki updates instead of the leftyconspiracygrapevine?

[salus.populi]

Can you read the wiki updates instead of the leftyconspiracygrapevine?

Sorry dear, not sure what you're asking. Is what I have posted not true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Shakespeare

[Hamble]

Sorry dear, not sure what you're asking. Is what I have posted not true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Shakespeare

Are you saying YouGov poles are fixed to put the Tory's ahead?

[Alikado]

Are you saying YouGov poles are fixed to put the Tory's ahead?

Yougov invite profiled people to partake in the polls so they know the result before they start which is what their customer wants, the slight variations in trends is what they are really interested in.

[salus.populi]

Are you saying YouGov poles are fixed to put the Tory's ahead?

No, I am not. But how can YOU say it is non-partisan whilst at the same time claiming that other polls are partisan?

Fiona Bruce(and the BBC/QT used YouGov poll as a non partisan poll compared to Guardian/Telegraph/Mirror/Labour friends of Tory/MSN/twitter any left wing or right wing or other vested interest/political leaning poll etc etc.

[seivad]

Are you saying YouGov poles are fixed to put the Tory's ahead?

Many of the Tories should be impaled on a damned pole!

[silver fox]

Many of the Tories should be impaled on a damned pole!

Now don't go upsetting Hamble

[Hamble]

Yougov invite profiled people to partake in the polls so they know the result before they start which is what their customer wants, the slight variations in trends is what they are really interested in.

I think YouGov relies on its accuracy at predicting(it got it right when Labour won a GE).
Accuracy and reputation generates hits investment and wealth.

[Hamble]

No, I am not. But how can YOU say it is non-partisan whilst at the same time claiming that other polls are partisan?

Would you think a British Newspaper Poll is partisan?

Many polls are.
The point is getting the odds and accuracy right.
Polls are quoted for their accuracy not whether their owner is a Tory.