Johnson's incompetent leadership helped send Covid victims to early graves

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From Toodles #90

From The HoC Public Accounts Committee:

The NAO found that the process did not clearly record information on referrals. The Cabinet Office confirmed that of the 47 suppliers which came through the high-priority lane and were awarded contracts, 12 were introduced from MPs, seven from Peers and 18 from officials. In five cases, the source of the referral was not known and one referral was put in the lane in error.

Leaving 4 suppliers awarded contracts through legitimate means.

Four. Out of 47.

If having a 'High Priority Lane' isn't corrupt what is?

Is there some collective insanity taking over here I ask again;

Which NHS staff co-operated in this corruption you allege?

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Why should I apologise? Did you fully read through the link you provided?

Read it in FULL and you will find it returns the buying decisions right back to DHSC, of course the NHS request services and supplies, that’s where NHS procurement comes in, of course they can request supplies, but do not buy direct unless that supplier has already been approved by DHSC, you can rearrange the words as much as you wish, but the ultimate responsibility for supplies and services remains with the DHSC.

Again I ask the very very simple question which NHS staff or just for you civil service staff co-operated in this corruption, who signed the "cheques" and approved the "dodgy gear"





This complete misunderstanding of the process is spreading, when are the cases coming before the courts?

[Toodles McGinty]

Is there some collective insanity taking over here I ask again;

Which NHS staff co-operated in this corruption you allege?

Why TF would NHS staff co-operate in any corruption?

How many times? Supply Chain Co-ordination is not the NHS. You alleged that NHS staff must be corrupt. Nobody else.

Your words:

...of course it was the NHS who were doing the buying.

...Or do you really believe that everyone involved in the NHS supply chain was corrupt or turned a blind eye to corruption?

...of the problem that NHS supply staff worked through you have effectively called them liars and cheats.

Your words. Nobody else's. Nobody called NHS staff corrupt.

You've decided, despite evidence to the contrary - the government's own publication - that NHS staff buy PPE.

The Supply Chain dept. is run by the Health Minister.
But it is a criticism of the wondrous government you adore, so we're back to:

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Why TF would NHS staff co-operate in any corruption?

How many times? Supply Chain Co-ordination is not the NHS. You alleged that NHS staff must be corrupt. Nobody else.

Your words:

...of course it was the NHS who were doing the buying.

...Or do you really believe that everyone involved in the NHS supply chain was corrupt or turned a blind eye to corruption?

...of the problem that NHS supply staff worked through you have effectively called them liars and cheats.

Your words. Nobody else's. Nobody called NHS staff corrupt.

You've decided, despite evidence to the contrary - the government's own publication - that NHS staff buy PPE.

The Supply Chain dept. is run by the Health Minister.
But it is a criticism of the wondrous government you adore, so we're back to:

Lets face it the logical conclusion of your new stance is that Hancock or any other Minister didn't involve any member of the NHS in the dodgy dealing you allege.I

You haven't thought this through have you?

Or more likely you don't understand the procedures or want to understand them.

No one knew anything till the pixies dropped it off in the night.

Then the money fairies dropped off the payments on another moonlit night minus one must presume a slice for Hancocks Unicorn fund.

Everyone at the NHS put their fingers in their ears and sang the Red Flag.

All that checking and testing forgotten about the paper trail stuffed into the shredder.


This lot must have had brown envelopes in return for keeping quiet.

https://www.supplychain.nhs.uk/about-us/

NHS Supply Chain manages the sourcing, delivery and supply of healthcare products, services and food for NHS trusts and healthcare organisations across England and Wales.

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Why TF would NHS staff co-operate in any corruption?

How many times? Supply Chain Co-ordination is not the NHS. You alleged that NHS staff must be corrupt. Nobody else.

Your words:

...of course it was the NHS who were doing the buying.

...Or do you really believe that everyone involved in the NHS supply chain was corrupt or turned a blind eye to corruption?

...of the problem that NHS supply staff worked through you have effectively called them liars and cheats.

Your words. Nobody else's. Nobody called NHS staff corrupt.

You've decided, despite evidence to the contrary - the government's own publication - that NHS staff buy PPE.

The Supply Chain dept. is run by the Health Minister.
But it is a criticism of the wondrous government you adore, so we're back to:

You'd better get used to it - your pet Labour political Party - can't see how they will ever shine again, they will always remain in the shadow. Politician's have never been known for their intellect, but Labour most certainly hasn't got any.

[Desert Region]

It'll be 'Boris Saves Christmas' again, no doubt at all.

I was assuming it'd be a bit of sabre rattling at French fishermen blocking Calais, then him coming up with yet another of his marvellous 'deals' to get them to stop blocking ports. No doubt suspending another bit of the Brexit bull. But only after he's provoked them then blamed even more shortages on them.

But now I'm guessing that even as he's stated we won't be going into 'plan B' that the public are crying out for, he'll wait to see if infections rise even further after the half term holidays. Then 'save Christmas' by mandating masks from November.

Probably both.

Exhaustingly predictable.

Now it's the general population who need to save Christmas.
I'm beginning to worry about who's going to save New Year.



It's reported as Javid having "warned" that infections could reach six figures, but I read it more as the Health Secretary making a passing observation. If -as the implicit narrative appears to be- 50,000 cases a day is no biggie then I doubt the Government is too bothered at the potential for 100,000 cases a day. If cases were already at the level of 100,000 a day then I suspect the Government would be 'warning' that they could reach 200,000 a day.

[Alikado]

Now it's the general population who need to save Christmas.
I'm beginning to worry about who's going to save New Year.



It's reported as Javid having "warned" that infections could reach six figures, but I read it more as the Health Secretary making a passing observation. If -as the implicit narrative appears to be- 50,000 cases a day is no biggie then I doubt the Government is too bothered at the potential for 100,000 cases a day. If cases were already at the level of 100,000 a day then I suspect the Government would be 'warning' that they could reach 200,000 a day.

Again it's all about Boris, he is going to don his Superhero suit again and 'Save Christmas' again, this is just another version of 'Project Fear' we have nothing to worry about Boris said a few weeks ago that lifting the restrictions was IRREVESIBLE! What ever that means, I suspect it has a very flexible meaning.

[Desert Region]

Again it's all about Boris, he is going to don his Superhero suit again and 'Save Christmas' again...

Yes, that seems to be the typical denouement. The new Christmas resolution tradition.

[Toodles McGinty]

You'd better get used to it - your pet Labour political Party - can't see how they will ever shine again, they will always remain in the shadow. Politician's have never been known for their intellect, but Labour most certainly hasn't got any.

My 'pet Labour political Party'? What on earth are you blathering about?

What has Labour or any other party, got to do with the subject in hand?

Whatabout Labour? Whatabout the Greens? Whatabout UKIP? Whatabout the SNP?

Irrelevant.

[Alikado]

Lets face it the logical conclusion of your new stance is that Hancock or any other Minister didn't involve any member of the NHS in the dodgy dealing you allege.I

You haven't thought this through have you?

Or more likely you don't understand the procedures or want to understand them.

No one knew anything till the pixies dropped it off in the night.

Then the money fairies dropped off the payments on another moonlit night minus one must presume a slice for Hancocks Unicorn fund.

Everyone at the NHS put their fingers in their ears and sang the Red Flag.

All that checking and testing forgotten about the paper trail stuffed into the shredder.


This lot must have had brown envelopes in return for keeping quiet.

https://www.supplychain.nhs.uk/about-us/

NHS Supply Chain manages the sourcing, delivery and supply of healthcare products, services and food for NHS trusts and healthcare organisations across England and Wales.

You can't see because you have your face buried to far into Boris's cheeks, The dodgy dealing was by who ever instigated the fast track list to bypass the procedures on checking these companies and by those who used it. All that paper trail wasn't stuffed into the shredder, testing found that chunks where substandard and didn't meet specifications generating further investigations into the orders that is why it has come to light.

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It's difficult to understand how anyone could with any seriousness defend what has happened.
One company given contracts that had only existed for four months.
Another shipped 60,000 masks which will all substandard.
Another company which in the last financial year grew profits from £1m to £34m.
Private medicine draining millions.
While millions returns as Tory party donations and we have a Health Secretary who is paid £150k for a day a month with JP Morgan, who lead the group of US companies wanting to plunder the NHS.
Shameful and shameless.

[silver fox]

Lets face it the logical conclusion of your new stance is that Hancock or any other Minister didn't involve any member of the NHS in the dodgy dealing you allege.I

You haven't thought this through have you?

Or more likely you don't understand the procedures or want to understand them.

No one knew anything till the pixies dropped it off in the night.

Then the money fairies dropped off the payments on another moonlit night minus one must presume a slice for Hancocks Unicorn fund.

Everyone at the NHS put their fingers in their ears and sang the Red Flag.

All that checking and testing forgotten about the paper trail stuffed into the shredder.


This lot must have had brown envelopes in return for keeping quiet.

https://www.supplychain.nhs.uk/about-us/

NHS Supply Chain manages the sourcing, delivery and supply of healthcare products, services and food for NHS trusts and healthcare organisations across England and Wales.

No-One has mentioned brown envelopes or any other bribe to staff, the essence of the whole damn thing is simply that normal checks were not made, the companies awarded contracts with no experience or capacity to supply the goods needed, awarding these contracts to donors and party friends is where the corruption lies, if a supplier is approved or recommended from the top, then staff will place orders with that supplier, no-one expects staff to personally check the validity of the supplier when that supplier is already approved.

As ever the problem only became apparent when either goods failed to arrive, or were sub standard.

[Toodles McGinty]

Lets face it the logical conclusion of your new stance is that Hancock or any other Minister didn't involve any member of the NHS in the dodgy dealing you allege.I

You haven't thought this through have you?

Or more likely you don't understand the procedures or want to understand them.

No one knew anything till the pixies dropped it off in the night.

Then the money fairies dropped off the payments on another moonlit night minus one must presume a slice for Hancocks Unicorn fund.

Everyone at the NHS put their fingers in their ears and sang the Red Flag.

All that checking and testing forgotten about the paper trail stuffed into the shredder.


This lot must have had brown envelopes in return for keeping quiet.

https://www.supplychain.nhs.uk/about-us/

NHS Supply Chain manages the sourcing, delivery and supply of healthcare products, services and food for NHS trusts and healthcare organisations across England and Wales.

OK, so you didn't watch the videos and you've decided that the only defence of the government was that somebody in the NHS would surely have kicked back against the government and said 'No, we don't want any goods from dodgy deals' when PPE was short. They would surely have checked and double checked where the PPE and equipment was coming from, then told the DHSC to take that stuff back immediately.

In your blue blindfolded world, Hancock did no dodgy deals, he didn't award a contract to his landlord mate or his sister. The Cabinet Office DIDN'T confirm that of the 47 suppliers which came through the high-priority lane and were awarded contracts, 12 were introduced from MPs, seven from Peers and 18 from officials.

Also in your world NHS Supply Chain isn't operated by Supply Chain Coordination Limited, which in turn has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the government even though The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is the company's sole shareholder.

Sure. 'Panorama' didn't even make the documentary 'Cashing in on Covid', about the corruption surrounding PPE procurement. Hancock didn't act unlawfully by deliberately not publishing details of contracts.

And everything is lovely and lawful through your blue tinted glasses. Nobody is corrupt, nobody has broken Ministerial code, Johnson was a wonderful Mayor, and an even more competent PM whose actions definitely didn't cause the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people, despite his own MPs saying exactly that.

Sure. You keep believing that.

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No-One has mentioned brown envelopes or any other bribe to staff, the essence of the whole damn thing is simply that normal checks were not made, the companies awarded contracts with no experience or capacity to supply the goods needed, awarding these contracts to donors and party friends is where the corruption lies, if a supplier is approved or recommended from the top, then staff will place orders with that supplier, no-one expects staff to personally check the validity of the supplier when that supplier is already approved.

As ever the problem only became apparent when either goods failed to arrive, or were sub standard.

So clearly your saying NHS workers in procurement didn't do their jobs they turned at the very least a blind eye .


If and its a very big if you have any real proof that they and their Ministers co-operated in dishonesty I will be very happy to condemn them.

The fact that the party of business knew people able to supply things is not determinative of guilt.


Did some make money yes did some make too much money again yes
but that's a long way from dishonesty.

The price of hand sanitiser went up five fold in my local supermarket should I tell them they are corrupt?

https://nhsprocurement.org.uk/about/...-supply-chain/

NHS workers buying for the NHS.

[Toodles McGinty]

You can't see because you have your face buried to far into Boris's cheeks, The dodgy dealing was by who ever instigated the fast track list to bypass the procedures on checking these companies and by those who used it. All that paper trail wasn't stuffed into the shredder, testing found that chunks where substandard and didn't meet specifications generating further investigations into the orders that is why it has come to light.

He can't see it. So far up Johnson's ar$e, he can see what he had for breakfast.

First rule of Local's head: never, never, never, never, ever criticise the Tories. Under no circumstances.

I'm beginning to pity him. I couldn't imagine being so obsessed with anything that I cannot accept any criticism of it. That's an illness.

Needs treatment.