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Originally Posted by local
There is a feeding frenzy of anti-Boris stories at the moment whipped up by the remoaners you would think they might learn from the lesson with the rug headed one over the pond.
He was lambasted from all angles legal challenges,old tapes, videos you name it yet the emetic one triumphed.
Or maybe the same theme with Farage bashing before the Euro-Elections which he triumphed at
Boris's central message is to enact what the people voted for and that is a very hard message to blot out with tales of his brother and dog.
Telling us he lost votes with a minority government isn't news.
Telling us he kicked out members of his party who passed control to the EU doesn't go down badly especially when they went against a leader elected by their party on a policy of leaving as he is trying to.
As before you might knock him down but it won't last him or his replacement will just keep coming.
The support for democracy is embedded far deeper than many would like to think.
Not a problem with that, it's what the ERG wants that concerns me!
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Originally Posted by local
There are plenty of Boris's.
Entitled arrogant bumbling idiots? People who think they can just walk into the job they deem they should have, only to find they are utter $h!t at it? Like me deciding I should play centre forward for Real Madrid?
People whose retorts at PMQs might consist of "I think he's Caracas", "big girl's blouse" (really fishing for the female vote there), "there’s only one chlorinated chicken I can see in this room" (used that twice before)? Or his magnificent speech in front of police recruits, "Um..err..I..you do not have to say anything...um..I..you know how it goes"? Making Theresa May's efforts at the dispatch box sound like an offering from Oscar Wilde.
Oh how he was going to wipe the floor with Corbyn in the House of Commons. How his witty put-downs would make Corbyn look so small. He's managed to make Corbyn look more statesmanlike and calm and collected that ever before. Not an easy task, all things considered.
So here he is, a complete and utter failure if he doesn't take us out by Halloween. Failed the ERG. Failed the Brexshiteers. Failed the Fat Al Fanboys. Failed the bulletheaded gammonites wanted to stick it to that lot in the EU. Failed all those 'we won, you lost, so suck it up' types.
Unless he can do it. Then he can be your 'King of the World'.
What's his chances, do you think?
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Entitled arrogant bumbling idiots? People who think they can just walk into the job they deem they should have, only to find they are utter $h!t at it? Like me deciding I should play centre forward for Real Madrid?
People whose retorts at PMQs might consist of "I think he's Caracas", "big girl's blouse" (really fishing for the female vote there), "there’s only one chlorinated chicken I can see in this room" (used that twice before)? Or his magnificent speech in front of police recruits, "Um..err..I..you do not have to say anything...um..I..you know how it goes"? Making Theresa May's efforts at the dispatch box sound like an offering from Oscar Wilde.
Oh how he was going to wipe the floor with Corbyn in the House of Commons. How his witty put-downs would make Corbyn look so small. He's managed to make Corbyn look more statesmanlike and calm and collected that ever before. Not an easy task, all things considered.
So here he is, a complete and utter failure if he doesn't take us out by Halloween. Failed the ERG. Failed the Brexshiteers. Failed the Fat Al Fanboys. Failed the bulletheaded gammonites wanted to stick it to that lot in the EU. Failed all those 'we won, you lost, so suck it up' types.
Unless he can do it. Then he can be your 'King of the World'.
What's his chances, do you think?
Corbyn doesn't represent his core vote in the north, the Tories are self, self, self and 17,000,000 people are ******** off...………...where do we go from here?
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Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
I don't disagree with you, I'm just pointing out fact!
I know
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Entitled arrogant bumbling idiots? People who think they can just walk into the job they deem they should have, only to find they are utter $h!t at it? Like me deciding I should play centre forward for Real Madrid?
People whose retorts at PMQs might consist of "I think he's Caracas", "big girl's blouse" (really fishing for the female vote there), "there’s only one chlorinated chicken I can see in this room" (used that twice before)? Or his magnificent speech in front of police recruits, "Um..err..I..you do not have to say anything...um..I..you know how it goes"? Making Theresa May's efforts at the dispatch box sound like an offering from Oscar Wilde.
Oh how he was going to wipe the floor with Corbyn in the House of Commons. How his witty put-downs would make Corbyn look so small. He's managed to make Corbyn look more statesmanlike and calm and collected that ever before. Not an easy task, all things considered.
So here he is, a complete and utter failure if he doesn't take us out by Halloween. Failed the ERG. Failed the Brexshiteers. Failed the Fat Al Fanboys. Failed the bulletheaded gammonites wanted to stick it to that lot in the EU. Failed all those 'we won, you lost, so suck it up' types.
Unless he can do it. Then he can be your 'King of the World'.
What's his chances, do you think?
But he didn't just walk in he was chosen by a huge majority of both Conservative MP's and members if you can similarly persuade Real Madrid's players and managers you are the chosen one then great get your boots.
If you think he's managed to make Corbyn look more statesmanlike calm and collected that ever before then your rose tinted glasses need a polish.
Corbyn has offered to re-negotiate our leaving then campaign against it, the very thing he believes in, good luck in persuading the electorate with that.
Boris hasn't failed, Parliament has failed to enact the will of the people there is a big difference and all your foul mouth tirades won't change that fact.
The current "delay bill" solves absolutely nothing and Corbyn, knows it and so do you.
Short thinking MP's voting for groundhog day is not a fix and the brighter ones know it, witness Rees Mogg lounging in Parliament how worried does he look ?
Whilst they play their juvenile games in Parliament of running off with the ball and giving it to their make believe friends the EU, the electorate looks on exasperated.
If that's a vote winner I play for Real Madrid.
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Originally Posted by local
But he didn't just walk in he was chosen by a huge majority of both Conservative MP's and members if you can similarly persuade Real Madrid's players and managers you are the chosen one then great get your boots.
If you think he's managed to make Corbyn look more statesmanlike calm and collected that ever before then your rose tinted glasses need a polish.
Corbyn has offered to re-negotiate our leaving then campaign against it, the very thing he believes in, good luck in persuading the electorate with that.
Boris hasn't failed, Parliament has failed to enact the will of the people there is a big difference and all your foul mouth tirades won't change that fact.
The current "delay bill" solves absolutely nothing and Corbyn, knows it and so do you.
Short thinking MP's voting for groundhog day is not a fix and the brighter ones know it, witness Rees Mogg lounging in Parliament how worried does he look ?
Whilst they play their juvenile games in Parliament of running off with the ball and giving it to their make believe friends the EU, the electorate looks on exasperated.
If that's a vote winner I play for Real Madrid.
Johnson should go now and do us all a massive favour.
REST IN PEACE THE 96.
Y.N.W.A.
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Johnson should go now and do us all a massive favour.
It won't do anyone a favour and the opposition know it,
if they were so convinced he is wrong and doesn't represent the views of the majority they would support the election call straightaway.
He is the one who grasped the nettle with tha backing of the majority of his MP's and members.
Democracy is not popular with some in Parliament and those who lost the intellectual argument outside but the decent honorable people aren't ready to give up on it yet.
The extraordinary way leave voters have conducted themselves is to their credit.
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It doesn’t matter who is doing the negotiating, they will not get a deal out of the EU, they don’t want us to leave, they can’t let us leave or it will probably mean the end of the EU.
in the words of the Eagles, Hotel California “You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave”
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Originally Posted by local
Boris hasn't failed, Parliament has failed to enact the will of the people there is a big difference and all your foul mouth tirades won't change that fact.
The current "delay bill" solves absolutely nothing and Corbyn, knows it and so do you.
Short thinking MP's voting for groundhog day is not a fix and the brighter ones know it, witness Rees Mogg lounging in Parliament how worried does he look ?
'Foul mouthed'? Nothing Fat Al hasn't said in Parliament.
The delay bill, as you call it, does two things. Ensure we leave with a deal, and ensure the EU Anti-tax avoidance directive applies to us.
I'm quite happy with both of those.
As for Rees Mogg, that was a fine example of the contempt with which he treats Parliament. Again, entitled, arrogant uncivilised and disrespectful. I personally don't care if he stands on his head. But once the business of the House begins and another MP speaks, then to lounge like a sullen teenager is nothing short of derisive.
But as you seem to tug your forelock at that type, you probably see nothing wrong.
I don't know which newspapers you read, but if you think Johnson is doing a sterling job, you are deluded. He isn't looking out for the 52%, the 48% or anyone, but the financial elite. When his own brother walks away, someone who is probably far more privvy to Johnson's plans than almost anyone, it speaks volumes.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
'Foul mouthed'? Nothing Fat Al hasn't said in Parliament.
The delay bill, as you call it, does two things. Ensure we leave with a deal, and ensure the EU Anti-tax avoidance directive applies to us.
I'm quite happy with both of those.
As for Rees Mogg, that was a fine example of the contempt with which he treats Parliament. Again, entitled, arrogant uncivilised and disrespectful. I personally don't care if he stands on his head. But once the business of the House begins and another MP speaks, then to lounge like a sullen teenager is nothing short of derisive.
But as you seem to tug your forelock at that type, you probably see nothing wrong.
I don't know which newspapers you read, but if you think Johnson is doing a sterling job, you are deluded. He isn't looking out for the 52%, the 48% or anyone, but the financial elite. When his own brother walks away, someone who is probably far more privvy to Johnson's plans than almost anyone, it speaks volumes.
I use the words of the socialist worker that great right wing bosses rag;
On one side are the bosses and politicians seeking to frighten and bamboozle people into voting to remain in the European Union (EU).
The bosses’ Confederation of British Industry and the governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney have openly backed the Remain campaign.
Their allies in the European Round Table of Industrialists, the International Monetary Fund and the White House are all for Remain.
This is the internationalism of profit-making. As their records show, they push globalisation for the needs of the rich.
The EU withdrawal bill does not rule out a no deal exit it just delays it.
It solves nothing and leaves us hemorrhaging cash and confidence that could be better spent.
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Originally Posted by local
I use the words of the socialist worker that great right wing bosses rag;
On one side are the bosses and politicians seeking to frighten and bamboozle people into voting to remain in the European Union (EU).
The bosses’ Confederation of British Industry and the governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney have openly backed the Remain campaign.
Their allies in the European Round Table of Industrialists, the International Monetary Fund and the White House are all for Remain.
This is the internationalism of profit-making. As their records show, they push globalisation for the needs of the rich.
The EU withdrawal bill does not rule out a no deal exit it just delays it.
It solves nothing and leaves us hemorrhaging cash and confidence that could be better spent.
Recent article, was it? Because as far as I'm aware the White House is quite fond of Fat Al. A man made in Trump's own image. 'The British Trump', I believe he said.
'Haemorrhaging confidence'? What confidence? The whole world thinks we are idiots led by a circus clown. Except a few populist demagogues.
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Johnson should go now and do us all a massive favour.
Johnson is doing what he is paid to do - and to my mind he is making a fine job of showing up Labour for what it is, while also making the rebel MP's very wary!
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Now Amber Rudd has resigned from the Cabinet.
This is priceless.
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Originally Posted by said
Johnson is doing what he is paid to do - and to my mind he is making a fine job of showing up Labour for what it is, while also making the rebel MP's very wary!
Doing a fine job, getting rid of Tory MPs, shown that the opposition will not be bullied or pushed around by Johnson's power play, he will get his election on terms agreeable to the House of Commons rather than his devious puppet master, Cummings!!!!.
As far as his performance as an astute leader, significant when a guy on the street in Leeds had him dumb struck, unable to answer or explain, got all the answers you reckon.
Last edited by silver fox; 07/09/2019 at 09:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Looks like John Mann is quitting labour
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