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  1. Published on: 06/01/2022 11:48 AMReported by: editor
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    'Southport Against Cycle Lane Expansion' facebook group has over 700 members and were delighted with the news from Sefton Council yesterday that the current proposals were being put on hold.

    Some of the reactions were:

    Round 1 won. The fight isn't over. We need to make sure we are listened to and only truly beneficial schemes get approval. Also the government didn't force any council to enact hare-brained schemes in the first lockdown, it merely made funding available where needed. Disingenuous politicking from Fairclough again.
    Excellent news however pressure needs to be exerted to remove the temporary cycle lanes on Hoghton street, Queens road and reintroduce a pedestrian only Chapel street.
    That is good news, very good news. like most people here I don’t trust, Sefton Council, and in particular Mr Fairclough. Thank you to Thomas de Freitas and Sinclair Hesketh d'Albuquerque and everyone involved. People Power!
    Also I find it strange that Cllr Fairclough says in the article that there was a 'robust consultation process', when only a couple of months ago he said that it had been 'hijacked'...
    finally common sense and the views of the majority prevail!
    Fantastic news & no we can't just sit back & think we have won and Sefton sneak something in on the sly
    this is great news but because there was no consultation process involving this area I sincerely hope this doesn’t get approved through’ the back door’ . We had a meeting with Transport Planning , they said they would
    Consult all those affected before a decision was made in the New Year . Meaning all the businesses the school and the church and the residents . I have now asked Cllr Fairclough and the Transport Planning Dept where that process is up to and how it will be implemented . I have also invited Cllr Fairclough to meet with the stake holders . He hasn’t replied to any of my emails and the Transport Planning say they havent a date for the process yet but it will happen .
    Well if that’s true then get on with it and be prepared to hear some home truths on the danger you , the council , have caused to children, parents, the elderly and the residents . In the last few months a child has almost been run over by a bus , a cyclist had severe injuries caused by the lanes as did an elderly woman who fractured her face tripping over the grey hazards . I think your risk assessment is complete Cllr Fairclough - just admit it and remove the hazardous lanes !
    This is not the end, do not be complacent. This is just the first battle in a war, the enemy has retreated but is not defeated.
    Wonderful news and thank you everyone for their work including Damien Moore
    Great news, but stay vigilant. There could be further developments!
    If you wish to join this group CLICK HERE

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  4. lawed143 says:06/01/2022 01:48 PM
    Only put on hold, while some consideration is made to possible alternatives. Active travel will happen, this is just a delay. BTW active travel isn’t just about cycling - it’s also about walking - creating alternatives to provide choice. You’ve selfishly taken that away for now…well done.

    In the meantime, I and many other cyclists will be making full use of the shared spaces these 700 members are obviously happy to continue with. We will be making full use of our rights under the amended Highway Code (coming into force this month) to use the full lane, we will take our higher priority over drivers to go about our business…all of course without any anger or hatred or danger … as we have priority over you and your license can be revoked.

    We will video record our journeys and will submit video evidence of any indiscretions by drivers who don’t follow the rules and put us in danger. My life is not worth your license.

    This is what you want. This is what you have fought for. Watch out, cos we will be recording YOU.

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  6. The PNP says:06/01/2022 02:08 PM
    Pressure needs exerting to 'reintroduce a pedestrian only Chapel Street'?

    Tbh, I'm surprised this daft lot aren't clamouring to scrap pedestrianisation completely
    and turn Chapel Street back into a two or three lane highway - duh!

  7. MICK/GILLY says:06/01/2022 02:35 PM
    I still don’t know how you get away with having so many different accounts. You even post on both of them at the same time of day, that gives it away a bit don’t you think .

  8. lawed143 says:06/01/2022 02:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    I still don’t know how you get away with having so many different accounts. You even post on both of them at the same time of day, that gives it away a bit don’t you think .
    New year but same pooh spewing out of your head…..

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  10. MICK/GILLY says:06/01/2022 02:44 PM
    Yea same situation going on tho, why don’t you change to donkey 22 or give em a call ask em to come on and back you up , you are so predictable, your cause is dead in the water and you are scrambling to appear larger and saying nonesense against what is obviously happening . Maybe you are being allowed many accounts cos it promotes clicks but don’t think we are all blind to your pretend support.

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  12. lawed143 says:06/01/2022 03:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    Yea same situation going on tho, why don’t you change to donkey 22 or give em a call ask em to come on and back you up , you are so predictable, your cause is dead in the water and you are scrambling to appear larger and saying nonesense against what is obviously happening . Maybe you are being allowed many accounts cos it promotes clicks but don’t think we are all blind to your pretend support.
    Let’s meet up Mick. Let’s have a coffee. All of us. Let’s put a human face behind the accounts….let’s prove you wrong once and for all…..let’s prove you’ve made it all up in your head. You obviously don’t want to discuss the topic do you.

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  14. The PNP says:06/01/2022 03:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    Yea same situation going on tho, why don’t you change to donkey 22 or give em a call ask em to come on and back you up , you are so predictable, your cause is dead in the water and you are scrambling to appear larger and saying nonesense against what is obviously happening . Maybe you are being allowed many accounts cos it promotes clicks but don’t think we are all blind to your pretend support.
    No need for 'pretend support' - Path'n'Pedal (the pressure group for pedestrians and cyclists)
    has more than 300 members, lol!

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  16. justbecause says:06/01/2022 03:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    No need for 'pretend support' - Path'n'Pedal (the pressure group for pedestrians and cyclists)
    has more than 300 members, lol!
    Give us a link so that we can all have a look.

  17. justbecause says:06/01/2022 03:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lawed143 View Post
    only put on hold, while some consideration is made to possible alternatives. Active travel will happen, this is just a delay. Btw active travel isn’t just about cycling - it’s also about walking - creating alternatives to provide choice. You’ve selfishly taken that away for now…well done.

    In the meantime, i and many other cyclists will be making full use of the shared spaces these 700 members are obviously happy to continue with. We will be making full use of our rights under the amended highway code (coming into force this month) to use the full lane, we will take our higher priority over drivers to go about our business…all of course without any anger or hatred or danger … as we have priority over you and your license can be revoked.

    We will video record our journeys and will submit video evidence of any indiscretions by drivers who don’t follow the rules and put us in danger. My life is not worth your license.

    This is what you want. This is what you have fought for. Watch out, cos we will be recording you.
    Cretin.

  18. MICK/GILLY says:06/01/2022 03:52 PM
    Is that 300 all time or current members, at best that’s only going to be 300 people disappointed then and 91,403 happy that this mistake is being rectified. And lawed if you think I am daft enough to walk into that then you don’t know me at all. I am discussing the topic very well on here thanks. But feel free to post photos of yourselves .
    Lawed says 700 members PNP says 300 members , anyway once you decide on what nonesense you want to spout the population is 91,703 and the general consensus of the massive vast majority is clearly wanting this BIG mistake put back right as it was then you can video record yourselves crying into your stupid moustaches .
    Last edited by MICK/GILLY; 06/01/2022 at 04:08 PM.

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  20. r4dent says:06/01/2022 04:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    Give us a link so that we can all have a look.
    Here is a link to the USA version. http://urlm.co/www.path-n-pedal.com

    Don't bother looking because the site is closed. The last thing was to wish members a Happy New Year for 2016!

    Always wondered what PNP stood for.

  21. MICK/GILLY says:06/01/2022 04:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lawed143 View Post

    “only put on hold, while some consideration is made to possible alternatives. Active travel will happen, this is just a delay. Btw active travel isn’t just about cycling - it’s also about walking - creating alternatives to provide choice. You’ve selfishly taken that away for now…well done”.


    Nobody is saying to dig up the pavements or stop people walking, what a ridiculous statement and I have never met a pedestrian fighting for pedestrians rights .. what a load of shite you come up with .

    Maybe you should book yourselves in here, it says it’s for those who have little support .
    https://www.carehome.co.uk/carehome/...ef/65432215111

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  23. lawed143 says:06/01/2022 04:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    Is that 300 all time or current members, at best that’s only going to be 300 people disappointed then and 91,403 happy that this mistake is being rectified. And lawed if you think I am daft enough to walk into that then you don’t know me at all. I am discussing the topic very well on here thanks. But feel free to post photos of yourselves .
    Lawed says 700 members PNP says 300 members , anyway once you decide on what nonesense you want to spout the population is 91,703 and the general consensus of the massive vast majority is clearly wanting this BIG mistake put back right as it was then you can video record yourselves crying into your stupid moustaches .
    Oh Michael that’s so disappointing. I was really looking forward to putting your made up conspiracy in the bin. Maybe you’ll accept then that I am an individual…..not a multiple account.
    The 700 I refer to is the Bookface group, PNP is referring to a different group - do keep up.
    700 of 91,000 is a very small proportion…..not a massive majority you claim…

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  25. lawed143 says:06/01/2022 04:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    Cretin.
    Intelligent, informed and eloquent response. You must be so proud of yourself….

    Just made a note of the Merseyside Police site I can upload incidents to.

    https://www.merseyside.police.uk/ro/...ffic-incident/

    Batteries are charged, cameras are fixed. You’d better driver carefully…. ?
    Last edited by lawed143; 06/01/2022 at 04:45 PM.

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