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Originally Posted by said
There is no turning back! Steve Barclay has signed the repeal of the 1972 EU Act.
"The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day." Govt. UK
Yes there is. Article 50 can still be extended. It's a big fat nothing burger.
"All of this demonstrates that the legal significance of bringing section 1 of the EUWA into force is extremely limited. It does not “set in stone” the repeal of the ECA, because the legal meaning of “exit day” can be changed and the date of the ECA’s repeal deferred. It does not prevent the UK Government from seeking an Article 50 extension. It does not prevent Parliament from legislating to require the UK Government to seek an Article 50 extension. It does not prevent the European Council from granting an extension if the UK Government asks for one, whether of its own volition or at Parliament’s insistence. And it does not prevent Parliament, if it so wishes, from legislating to revoke the UK’s notification under Article 50, thereby stopping the Brexit process in its tracks. The politics, of course, are another thing. But any suggestion that ECA repeal has been “set in stone”, or that this somehow locks in 31 October as the inevitable date of the UK’s departure from the EU, is wrong as a matter of law. ECA repeal, and Brexit itself, are no more “set in stone” today than they were in the spring, when “exit day” was twice redefined in domestic law and the Article 50 period was twice extended as a matter of EU law."
Public Law for Everyone is written by Mark Elliott. Mark is Professor of Public Law and Deputy Chair of the Faculty of Law at the University of Cambridge, and a Fellow of St Catharine’s College, Cambridge. He also served, from 2015 to 2019, as Legal Adviser to the House of Lords Select Committee on the Constitution.
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Originally Posted by seivad
Yes there is. Article 50 can still be extended. It's a big fat nothing burger.
"All of this demonstrates that the legal significance of bringing section 1 of the EUWA into force is extremely limited. It does not “set in stone” the repeal of the ECA, because the legal meaning of “exit day” can be changed and the date of the ECA’s repeal deferred. It does not prevent the UK Government from seeking an Article 50 extension. It does not prevent Parliament from legislating to require the UK Government to seek an Article 50 extension. It does not prevent the European Council from granting an extension if the UK Government asks for one, whether of its own volition or at Parliament’s insistence. And it does not prevent Parliament, if it so wishes, from legislating to revoke the UK’s notification under Article 50, thereby stopping the Brexit process in its tracks. The politics, of course, are another thing. But any suggestion that ECA repeal has been “set in stone”, or that this somehow locks in 31 October as the inevitable date of the UK’s departure from the EU, is wrong as a matter of law. ECA repeal, and Brexit itself, are no more “set in stone” today than they were in the spring, when “exit day” was twice redefined in domestic law and the Article 50 period was twice extended as a matter of EU law."
Public Law for Everyone is written by Mark Elliott. Mark is Professor of Public Law and Deputy Chair of the Faculty of Law at the University of Cambridge, and a Fellow of St Catharine’s College, Cambridge. He also served, from 2015 to 2019, as Legal Adviser to the House of Lords Select Committee on the Constitution.
It can, it may, is likely etc., - the Government has already decided on what is to happen - nothing in government happens by chance and there is little that anyone can do about it.
There i a point of Law that does remain uncertain however - in that the EU allowed one extension to the talks in accordance with Article 50, from March until May, I believe - but then agreed to a further extension without any recourse to Article 50 which many in the legal field found to be unlawful. According to this thinking the UK legally left the EU in March.
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Originally Posted by said
There is no turning back! Steve Barclay has signed the repeal of the 1972 EU Act.
"The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day." Govt. UK
When I wrote 'here we go...' it was in answer to the post :
Originally Posted by thediscovolante
i have read the laughable yellowhammer report for the mentally challenged...just curious....do we get our fuel from brussels or saudi arabia?..if you believe this crap you are stupid beyond belief...but if you are terrified about carrotts and brocolli etc not getting through...that is trucked thousands of miles from eastern europe....relax ,we grow them here in our hometown..perhaps you should support home grown veg and not the disgusting trade of eu veg causing global warming....we have gas at our fingertips in blackpool....but you idiots shun it and prefer to ship it thousands of miles from other countries...britain will thrive after brexit,,have some loyalty to britain and not the eu..
We'd got through 16 posts without mindless abuse.
I know it's a subject that inspires fyoooming rants, not least from my good self, but I had hoped there might be an actual chat about the prospect of shortages etc.
Put it this way, I'm sure thediscovolante could have expressed the same opinion without quite so much gammony, stroke-inducing rage.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
When I wrote 'here we go...' it was in answer to the post :
We'd got through 16 posts without mindless abuse.
I know it's a subject that inspires fyoooming rants, not least from my good self, but I had hoped there might be an actual chat about the prospect of shortages etc.
Put it this way, I'm sure thediscovolante could have expressed the same opinion without quite so much gammony, stroke-inducing rage.
I notice thedisovolante is happy for the people of Blackpool to put up with the dangers of fracking
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
When I wrote 'here we go...' it was in answer to the post :
We'd got through 16 posts without mindless abuse.
I know it's a subject that inspires fyoooming rants, not least from my good self, but I had hoped there might be an actual chat about the prospect of shortages etc.
Put it this way, I'm sure thediscovolante could have expressed the same opinion without quite so much gammony, stroke-inducing rage.
"We'd got through 16 posts without mindless abuse. " Is that your record?
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It's good to know that the thick as mince brexshitters won't be stockpiling. They should be the first to starve.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
It's good to know that the thick as mince brexshitters won't be stockpiling. They should be the first to starve.
Best stock up on tinned potatoes then, as according to BBC news they are packed in Belgium !
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
It's good to know that the thick as mince brexshitters won't be stockpiling. They should be the first to starve.
Bit dramatic.
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Hmm so farmers will stop growing, packers will stop packing and delivery firms will stop delivering .
Even if they all decide to relent and carry on it will it seems all end up in a mouldy heap at Dover.
The reality will be rather dull for all sides of the Brexit debate.
Odd things out of the thousands that line our supermarket shelves will be in short supply as new products enter our supply chain.
The dreadful fear campaign to frighten the sick and vulnerable is taking it too far.
Clearly medicine producers are not going to stop production and the idea that vehicles carrying them will for some reason be singled out for delay is hitting new depths even for the anti-democracy extremists.
Clearly these political terrorists don't care who they frighten in their selfish assault on our society.
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Originally Posted by local
Hmm so farmers will stop growing, packers will stop packing and delivery firms will stop delivering .
Even if they all decide to relent and carry on it will it seems all end up in a mouldy heap at Dover.
The reality will be rather dull for all sides of the Brexit debate.
Odd things out of the thousands that line our supermarket shelves will be in short supply as new products enter our supply chain.
The dreadful fear campaign to frighten the sick and vulnerable is taking it too far.
Clearly medicine producers are not going to stop production and the idea that vehicles carrying them will for some reason be singled out for delay is hitting new depths even for the anti-democracy extremists.
Clearly these political terrorists don't care who they frighten in their selfish assault on our society.
You really haven't got a clue.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
You really haven't got a clue.
Well we'll start very simply so you can explain it to everyone,
at which point in the field to shelf chain will it stop dead ?
You shouldn't have a problem answering that.
Then you can go on to explain the same for medicines.
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Originally Posted by *concerned*
Best stock up on tinned potatoes then, as according to BBC news they are packed in Belgium !
We shall have to eat those obnoxious looking tinned foods I swiftly push the trolley past in Tesco.
Sardines and Borlotti beans.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
We shall have to eat those obnoxious looking tinned foods I swiftly push the trolley past in Tesco.
Sardines and Borlotti beans.
Nothing wrong with tinned sardines. Except most come from Morocco. Well, the sea, but you know what I mean. Through a trade deal with the EU. So they might not be as readily available as you think. For a while at least.
I think we all know the processes by which food comes into Britain, how much we produce ourselves and how a no-deal Brexit would interrupt the supply chain. Farmers have been particularly vocal this week, frustrated by the possibility of losing a lot, or even their livelihoods. The whole thing has been covered exhaustively.
So when someone shouts about growing carrots half a mile away, that's great. Except the major stores don't get all their goods from that field. Tesco - fresh carrots 'Packed in the U.K., Produce of the U.K.IrelandFranceSpain'. Field to plate isn't that simple. We grow them, we don't grow enough. Cauliflower is apparently in short supply. Not because of Brexit, but because of the weather over the recent growing season. Doesn't matter, as we can just get some from whichever country. Except we might not. For a while.
I'm not saying the UK is going to starve, or there'll be apocalyptic scenes down the veg aisle at Lidl. Just wondering if we are prepared to go short on things for a while.
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Originally Posted by said
"We'd got through 16 posts without mindless abuse. " Is that your record?
This makes me chuckle when you read this;
It's good to know that the thick as mince brexshitters won't be stockpiling. They should be the first to starve.
and liked by the usual suspects, Ceam, Toodles McGinty
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