US Election

[said]

I don't mind an alternative view but I'm not keen on conspiracy theories from any side.

OK - but it is supported by other publications that I have yet to examine. You have to be a conspiracy analyst before you can make such accusations. Right, it appears that persons with those names do indeed work for Soros - but as far as I can make out, those names do not appear on Biden's Transition Team. The other publications include one that is sourced from China and others which have not yet been checked.

"I'm not keen on conspiracy theories from any side." - interesting? I presented you with a report which had been handed to me, and said that the details needed to be checked. Which is precisely what I did. Yet you received those details and without any scrutiny, you gave your view. Everything you are given to believe needs to be checked. Later, in the future - I hope you get to recall your words. I am surprised that you are not walking around with a pink umbrella as protection from the deluge.

[sandGroundZero]

Regarding post #216 and #219:

You have to be a conspiracy anal orifice before you can take such suggestions seriously.

[said]

Regarding post #216 and #219:

You have to be a conspiracy anal orifice before you can take such suggestions seriously.

Yet there are a number of people who do believe the most ridiculous claims without so much as thinking about them, they do so willingly and without a second thought, don't they?

[silver fox]

Yet there are a number of people who do believe the most ridiculous claims without so much as thinking about them, they do so willingly and without a second thought, don't they?

We all know this, particularly while we have you as a prime example, the biggest exponent of unsubstantiated drivel by far on this site.

Sadly some will believe this sort of BS, looking through US sites particularly, the Trumpist supporters are becoming hysterical in their idiotic false claims.

[seivad]

OK - but it is supported by other publications that I have yet to examine. You have to be a conspiracy analyst before you can make such accusations. Right, it appears that persons with those names do indeed work for Soros - but as far as I can make out, those names do not appear on Biden's Transition Team. The other publications include one that is sourced from China and others which have not yet been checked.

"I'm not keen on conspiracy theories from any side." - interesting? I presented you with a report which had been handed to me, and said that the details needed to be checked. Which is precisely what I did. Yet you received those details and without any scrutiny, you gave your view. Everything you are given to believe needs to be checked. Later, in the future - I hope you get to recall your words. I am surprised that you are not walking around with a pink umbrella as protection from the deluge.

You won't find them on Biden's Transition Team because they are not on the team. The usual suspects, who see the big bad bogeyman Soros lurking around every corner, have pounced on a few volunteers in Biden's Agency Review Teams. There are hundreds of people in these teams. Their job is to study the ongoing operations of all of the Federal agencies in order to provide a current picture of their operations to the incoming President and his Transition Team. The incoming administration can't possibly accomplish a smooth transition if it doesn't have any knowledge of the status of the outgoing administration's operations.

https://buildbackbetter.com/the-tran...-review-teams/

[seivad]

Yes he is president but he is not doing his job.
The question is whether he is prepared to , for once, do something decent and stand aside so that people who want to confront the problem get the opportunity.

Be careful what you wish for! If for any reason Trump was to stand aside, Mike Pence would be sworn in as the 46th President. The Constitution sets out the Presidential term dates and there is no way it can be changed. Pence would leave office on Jan.20 when Biden was sworn in as the 47th President.

[Hector]

I haven't had time to read all the posts, but has anyone speculated concerning the possibility of Trump attempting a coup?

His appointing a new Secretary of Defence may have been in preparation for that.

I put nothing past him.

[joan ofarc]

Now two people have highjacked this thread.

[silver fox]

I haven't had time to read all the posts, but has anyone speculated concerning the possibility of Trump attempting a coup?

His appointing a new Secretary of Defence may have been in preparation for that.

I put nothing past him.

There has been speculation in the same vein on US sites, but part of the military code is not to become involved in any way when it comes to enforcing civil or political decisions, plus of course on Jan 20th Trump nor any part of his administration has any authority over the military, FBI, secret service, there had also been the thought that he could mobilise his gun toting, gung-ho supporters.

That would not last very long, but would be a very troubling result.

[Hector]

No, Sir! It's what is called a typing error.

Did you mean, 'No, sir!', or has my knighthood been leaked?

[Hector]

There has been speculation in the same vein on US sites, but part of the military code is not to become involved in any way when it comes to enforcing civil or political decisions, plus of course on Jan 20th Trump nor any part of his administration has any authority over the military, FBI, secret service, there had also been the thought that he could mobilise his gun toting, gung-ho supporters.

That would not last very long, but would be a very troubling result.

I can't see him going quietly. Sadly.

[Derek H]

Did you mean, 'No, sir!', or has my knighthood been leaked?

Just a misplaced sign of deep respect or maybe even fear.

[seivad]

I was given to understand that Trump could leave office any time before Jan 20th. But it is obvious he will not do so because of his trade obligations.

He can resign, which is highly unlikely. If he did Mike Pence would be sworn in as President.

What trade obligations does Trump have? If you're talking about phase 2 of the unsuccessful US/China Trade Agreement, good luck with that! It won't happen under his watch. Presidents come and go, but the United States of America is constant. All obligations belong to the State, not to the official who entered into them. In the case of trade agreements, until they are concluded and passed into law, there is no legal obligation. New administrations may decide to continue with talks, or simply walk away from the table.

Over Obamacare, 31 million Americans may disagree with you:
https://www.thoughtco.com/reasons-ob...ailure-3303662

No doubt there are, and no doubt they are people who can afford the traditional health insurance or have employer funded health insurance. The 20 million people using the ACA credit it with saving many of their lives. It also enabled people with pre-existing conditions to obtain healthcare that had previously been denied to them.

Your link is either out of date or erroneous. For the past 3 years premiums have decreased. Polls also show that the popularity of the ACA has increased.

There are several plans being considered by congress for the USA Health Service after Covid:

e.g. https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/fi...ompetition.pdf

There are no plans being considered by Congress. For a start off, since the AHCA was defeated in the Republican held Senate in 2017, no further health plans have been sent to Congress. That's zero, zilch, nada.

Executive Orders are nothing more than a Presidential memorandum. Azar's letter to the President/report is not a health plan.

"Though China was gaining strength both economically and militarily, diplomacy during this period was guided for the most part by attempts at cooperation, rather than confrontation. Major disputes were mostly contained, and centered on security issues, such as China's military buildup in the South China Sea and cyber espionage.

According to Obama, the relationship between two countries would shape the 21st century, and therefore stable relations were critical not only for the US, but for the world at large.


How China's Xi Jinping blew a golden opportunity with US President Donald Trump


Biden traveled to Beijing on numerous occasions during efforts to gain Chinese support for a number of key Obama policies, including attempts to contain North Korea's nuclear ambitions.
During one such trip in 2013, Biden met with President Xi Jinping, who referred to the then Vice President as an "old friend of China." A scheduled 45-minute private talk between the two leaders ran for two hours."
In public remarks, Biden described relations in optimistic terms. "If we get this relationship right with a genuine new model, the possibilities are limitless."

The whole world has changed in its view of China, due largely to the brutal regime of leader for life President Xi Jinping. If you want to talk about Xi's good friends, you need look no further than Trump cozying up to him over the 'best chocolate cake in the world' at Mar-a-Lago. Trump always went on about his excellent personal relationship with his good friend Xi. Even at the outbreak of Covid he praised him for his transparency and restrictions to halt the spread. Xi played him for an idiot and still does.

Biden will certainly be more diplomatic than Trump, and definitely less erratic with no ill thought out knee jerk reactions. But don't kid yourself that he won't be tough if necessary. During that same visit in 2013, when Xi told him that US planes wanting to fly over the East China Sea would first have to request permission from Beijing, he told Xi 'we're not going to honour it, we're not going to respect it. In fact we're going to fly our own military aircraft through it without complying.'

[Hector]

Just a misplaced sign of deep respect or maybe even fear.

Haha. Nice one.

[local]

What a worrying comment;

During one such trip in 2013, Biden met with President Xi Jinping, who referred to the then Vice President as an "old friend of China." A scheduled 45-minute private talk between the two leaders ran for two hours."

Let's hope that was just some diplomatic hyperbole.

China's influence on the world is far more dangerous than Russia ever could be.

One of Trump's few good points was that he stood up to them.

The worrying thought that Chinas dirty tricks department swayed the election shouldn't be discounted.