West Antarctic Ice Sheet Melt

[The PNP]

Solar Power is only efficient if used in areas of large spaces where there is a high level of solar power.

Solar is constantly becoming more affordable. For the last couple of years, I've been using a large 150w 12v two-panel foldaway system when touring. It has a built-in charge regulator and provides more than enough power to run a 24" t.v. all day long, keep my big 12v leisure battery fully charged, run a 300w mains inverter when required and recharge handheld devices e.g. mobile phones.

They're well made and robust, coming in a large sturdy carrycase. These handy solar units will fit in a cars boot and are very simple to use - just unfold panels and clamp the two croc-clips onto your leisure battery terminals. Panels are available from 'Photonic Universe'.....I can certainly recommend!

[sandGroundZero]

"…When you purchase a new car, the exhaust fumes are clean and clear."

How do you figure?

(Would you purchase a car that produced only sufficient energy to get you 1/6th of the way to work, so that you would need six cars to get you to work?)

No links - the facts are common knowledge!

…yet, the message is incoherent.

[Toodles McGinty]

50 MW Wind Turbines would produce 50MW of electricity if working all the time constantly. They don't - so they only produce 1/6th of the actual output. To produce 50MW of electricity it requires 6 Turbines. (Would you purchase a car that produced only sufficient energy to get you 1/6th of the way to work, so that you would need six cars to get you to work?) The full compliment of Wind Turbines across the UK provides only enough power for 1.5 Power stations.

Solar Power is only efficient if used in areas of large spaces where there is a high level of solar power.

Whatever method they are using, happily we are moving towards renewables to power the country:

https://www.theguardian.com/business...year-uk-energy

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Solar is constantly becoming more affordable. For the last couple of years, I've been using a large 150w 12v two-panel foldaway system when touring. It has a built-in charge regulator and provides more than enough power to run a 24" t.v. all day long, keep my big 12v leisure battery fully charged, run a 300w mains inverter when required and recharge handheld devices e.g. mobile phones.

They're well made and robust, coming in a large sturdy carrycase. These handy solar units will fit in a cars boot and are very simple to use - just unfold panels and clamp the two croc-clips onto your leisure battery terminals. Panels are available from 'Photonic Universe'.....I can certainly recommend!

On a comparison of costs - how much savings are you making compared to the cost of the item? Does it require any maintenance? When you go to a caravan site, you are charged an all in price to include electricity and water - so would it not pay you just to use the supplied electric?

[The PNP]

On a comparison of costs - how much savings are you making compared to the cost of the item? Does it require any maintenance? When you go to a caravan site, you are charged an all in price to include electricity and water - so would it not pay you just to use the supplied electric?

Cost less than a generator, and silent in use. No maintenance required, apart from a gentle wipe down to keep clean....I always have power on tap regardless where I stop, never have to pay for hookup if on a site.

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Cost less than a generator, and silent in use. No maintenance required, apart from a gentle wipe down to keep clean....I always have power on tap regardless where I stop, never have to pay for hookup if on a site.

Do the Solar panels give you all the power you need in the caravan - for showers and heating? I guess you use gas for cooking?

[The PNP]

Do the Solar panels give you all the power you need in the caravan - for showers and heating? I guess you use gas for cooking?

It's a motorhome, with a small woodstove for heating out of season, which is removed during summer to save weight. Yep, gas for cooking. For showers/washing machine, I will stop for a night on a site. Otherwise, just park up here and there wherever suits. E.g. On a Welsh clifftop with great views along the coast - I like free pitches!

The motorhome serves as a base for cycling trips. Last year, amongst other destinations, I cycle-toured the Bath/Bristol/Bradford on Avon area. Rode the Avon Gorge path beneath Brunels Clifton Suspension Bridge, Kennet and Avon towpath, Bath-Bristol cycleway, the Two Tunnels Cycleway (can highly recommed). Still plenty routes left on the bucketlist......Hadrians Cycleway, Caledonian Canal/Loch Ness, etc!

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It's a motorhome, with a small woodstove for heating out of season, which is removed during summer to save weight. Yep, gas for cooking. For showers/washing machine, I will stop for a night on a site. Otherwise, just park up here and there wherever suits. E.g. On a Welsh clifftop with great views along the coast - I like free pitches!

The motorhome serves as a base for cycling trips. Last year, amongst other destinations, I cycle-toured the Bath/Bristol/Bradford on Avon area. Rode the Avon Gorge path beneath Brunels Clifton Suspension Bridge, Kennet and Avon towpath, Bath-Bristol cycleway, the Two Tunnels Cycleway (can highly recommed). Still plenty routes left on the bucketlist......Hadrians Cycleway, Caledonian Canal/Loch Ness, etc!

Sounds like you have that well worked out then - i like the sound of that. One other thing though - is a motor home not heavy on fuel?

[The PNP]

Sounds like you have that well worked out then - i like the sound of that. One other thing though - is a motor home not heavy on fuel?

It's a diesel so is surprisingly economical, particularly at around a steady 56mph.....Once at destination, it goes 'square-wheeled' anyway (i.e. is parked up) and the bikes come out. Makes far more sense to cycle into nearest town to fetch shopping etc, rather than needlessly burn fuel and struggle to park something large. And why take chances by moving it, with risk of losing a choice pitch?

[local]

Diesel the fuel of true eco-warriors everywhere.

What with your DPF filters and everything is it a EURo 5 or 6b ?

I would hate to think our resident tree burner is a hypocrite on the vehicle front as well.

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Diesel the fuel of true eco-warriors everywhere.

What with your DPF filters and everything is it a EURo 5 or 6b ?

I would hate to think our resident tree burner is a hypocrite on the vehicle front as well.

I drive a diesel car and it does have excellent filters so my road tax is very low. But, a Motor Home does sound like a fun way of getting around economically. Also one would miss out on flu contamination and hotel fleas.

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[QUOTE=The PNP;6714075]As widely reported this week, a warming Antarctic is leading researchers to an unpalatable conclusion -


Without all the fuss about Climate Change etc., there is also an event called 'Season Creep' Climate is totally unpredictable due to the huge number of natural events and factors involved. So our seasons of Spring Summer, Autumn and Winter cannot be precisely dated. Very often the date of these seasons vary from being earlier in the year or later in the year.

[The PNP]

A) Diesel the fuel of true eco-warriors everywhere.

B) What with your DPF filters and everything is it a EURo 5 or 6b ?

I would hate to think our resident tree burner is a hypocrite on the vehicle front as well.

A) Coal from the foreshore - the 'local' fuel.

B) Being no engine expert, that I wouldn't know. I can however assure you it's kept well maintained and complies fully with Govt emissions requirements. It is not intended for use as a daily drive, being stored safely away. The whole idea being for use periodically on trips elsewhere.

[The PNP]

I drive a diesel car and it does have excellent filters so my road tax is very low. But, a Motor Home does sound like a fun way of getting around economically. Also one would miss out on flu contamination and hotel fleas.

I can't say hotels do much for me either. Last time I used one, was when riding 'The Way of the Roses' coast to coast.....Got stuck overnight in a Yorkshire town, having missed the last train back to my free parking 'pitch'. It set me back £35 for a room in a Travelodge!

Imo, you can't beat snuggling into a nice cosy bed, ensconced in your own bedding!

[duncet]

True enough.......A classic example just off UK shores is the disaster that happened to Doggerland etc, at end of last Ice Age. The wide plains between Britain and Europe, rich in game and vegetation were inundated by rising seas and lie now well submerged beneath the North Sea. As a result, the people and animals that had lived there, either drowned or were forced to migrate by the steadily rising waters.

Was that caused by the Industrial Revolution, the burning of fossil fuels, people driving around in 4X4s and flying to Spain for their holidays?
No doubt you will come up with some poppycock idea to blame it on human intervention?
The fact is that it was natural causes (in that case, geological) that brought that about - in the same way that any changes in our current climate state (if there are any) are due to natural causes and nothing to do with any human involvement.
Before you start spluttering that climate change is induced by humans and proven by scientists, I will tell you that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is guided more by policy makers and politicians than by scientists. A graph covering the past 1,000 years clearly shows both the Mediaeval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age. It showed global temperatures had risen up to 1 degree C between 1000 and 1400, then having fallen by as much as 1.75 degrees to the end of the eighteenth century. This is what climates do - and will always do.