Donald Tusk insult or harsh truth

[said]

Joking.

Does Corbyn have a plan though?

According to the same BBC report, Corbyn has announced:
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In a letter to the prime minister, he said Labour wanted a UK-wide customs union, close alignment with the single market, "dynamic alignment" on rights and protections, "clear commitments" on participation in EU agencies and funding programmes and "unambiguous agreements" on the detail of future security arrangements." In other words, Corbyn wants Labour to remain in the EU since nothing in his demands are in accordance with Leave.

[said]

Tusk is worried because once we've left there
will be others seeking their own referendum.

Does Tusk not realise that such publicity acts against that which he is demanding - it only serves to promote a 'No Deal' Brexit? He is a complete idiot! The British people are not likely to listen to a disliked ex prime minister of Poland.

[Hamble]

Clearly not which is disappointing.But he's not in power.
Thought you'd be glad he's on your side as a Brexiter.

Corbyn is trying to force a General Election to stand for PM.

Staying in the single market and customs union with free movement is neither Brexit or a plan.

[said]

Clearly not which is disappointing.But he's not in power.
Thought you'd be glad he's on your side as a Brexiter.

Not according to the above BBC report - he does not seem to have a clue - as usual!

[Hamble]

According to the same BBC report, Corbyn has announced:
"

In a letter to the prime minister, he said Labour wanted a UK-wide customs union, close alignment with the single market, "dynamic alignment" on rights and protections, "clear commitments" on participation in EU agencies and funding programmes and "unambiguous agreements" on the detail of future security arrangements." In other words, Corbyn wants Labour to remain in the EU since nothing in his demands are in accordance with Leave.

Corbyn hates the EU for all the right reasons.
I believe he just wants electability calling for all the good as Remain
arrangements.
I mean how could Corbyn and the nites EVER run the economy after a 'no deal' Brexit.

[silver fox]

Does Tusk not realise that such publicity acts against that which he is demanding - it only serves to promote a 'No Deal' Brexit? He is a complete idiot! The British people are not likely to listen to a disliked ex prime minister of Poland.

He wasn't demanding anything, merely making a very valid point, the same point which more in this country should be asking, what plans are there for a Brexit which benefits this country and it's people? the answer is none, what plans did the principal promoters and agitators have for Brexit? the answer again is none.

Apart from jingoistic chest beating and a catalogue of lies, what have the arch Brexiteers done to plan and arrange an exit which doesn't do more harm than good? the answer once again is nothing.

[silver fox]

Not according to the above BBC report - he does not seem to have a clue - as usual!

Which puts him on a par with May and indeed much of our so called government.

[silver fox]

Corbyn is trying to force a General Election to stand for PM.

Staying in the single market and customs union with free movement is neither Brexit or a plan.

You may not like it, but it's certainly a plan, of course he knows that May will not agree, but he can still say he tried to meet her and help, in much the same way when May suddenly wanted to discuss Brexit with everyone after doing her best to keep the deal restricted only to the cabinet.

[said]

We Leave! Then let the EU make whatever demands it wants to - the UKJ does not have to agree. What was the situation before we joined the EU?

http://www.cityam.com/240870/why-bri...te-to-leave-it

[Hamble]

You may not like it, but it's certainly a plan, of course he knows that May will not agree, but he can still say he tried to meet her and help, in much the same way when May suddenly wanted to discuss Brexit with everyone after doing her best to keep the deal restricted only to the cabinet.

Corbyn can say it though who would believe it after this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-may-on-brexit

[silver fox]

We Leave! Then let the EU make whatever demands it wants to - the UKJ does not have to agree. What was the situation before we joined the EU?

http://www.cityam.com/240870/why-bri...te-to-leave-it

Oh yes I will certainly take note of a Tory supporting free sheet owned by a consortium of Dutch and Russian financiers, what do you expect from this sort of group? this lot are salivating at the prospect of a UK free from regulation, one of their demands was for a top tax rate of 30%, that rate to include dividends, bonus, profits from share and finance dealing.

Very much an unbiased, trustworthy paper.

[seivad]

Oh yes I will certainly take note of a Tory supporting free sheet owned by a consortium of Dutch and Russian financiers, what do you expect from this sort of group? this lot are salivating at the prospect of a UK free from regulation, one of their demands was for a top tax rate of 30%, that rate to include dividends, bonus, profits from share and finance dealing.

Very much an unbiased, trustworthy paper.

Agreed. He also cherry picks years when the annual British growth rate wasn't too bad. For example, he says in 1960, the year before we applied, it was almost 6%. Why didn't he say that in 1961, the year we did apply, it was 2.8%?

He then goes on to say that when we joined in 1973 it was a record 7.3%. Surely that supports joining the EEC? After all, we joined in January of 1973. In 1972 it was 3.9%, that is the figure he should have used.

[silver fox]

Agreed. He also cherry picks years when the annual British growth rate wasn't too bad. For example, he says in 1960, the year before we applied, it was almost 6%. Why didn't he say that in 1961, the year we did apply, it was 2.8%?

He then goes on to say that when we joined in 1973 it was a record 7.3%. Surely that supports joining the EEC? After all, we joined in January of 1973. In 1972 it was 3.9%, that is the figure he should have used.

He also manages to miss the other factor in this, inflation rate UK 1973 9.10%, even with his "amazing growth" we were actually losing ground, easy to pick the right figures and make it look good, he should try looking at the full picture.

[Ceam]

We Leave! Then let the EU make whatever demands it wants to - the UKJ does not have to agree. What was the situation before we joined the EU?

http://www.cityam.com/240870/why-bri...te-to-leave-it

If only life was that easy hey.

Should I give the IRA your address for the next mainland bomb?

[Toodles McGinty]

Corbyn is trying to force a General Election to stand for PM.

Staying in the single market and customs union with free movement is neither Brexit or a plan.

He's the leader of the opposition. That's his job. Pretty much why they are called the 'opposition'.

Labour have their point of view on Brexit. May has her 'red lines'.

But that's neither here nor there. Labour isn't in office. They've put their point of view to May. She's free to listen or disregard it. If there's an election, use your vote. Simple really.

And why on earth would you not want to be in the customs union or single market? Why commit trade suicide by shutting us off from the biggest single market going? Do you seriously think that any trade deal with, for eg, India or Pakistan won't involve massive immigration to this country? Deals with African nations? Asia?

It isn't like this whole thing has been played out in secret. The whole world knows we will be desperate for trade deals from April. We are starting with a disadvantage. Also, consider that those countries with huge deals with the EU won't be that keen to upset them by giving us great terms.

I've never known a more literal case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Instead of having immigration from Europe, we'll have immigration from the rest of the world. On less favourable terms than we have now. Because Brexiteers don't want immigration.

Astounding.